FightingGameGuy
Smash Apprentice
I've copied my report on Sonic I posted in the Official Questions for E for All thread where I signed up to report on Sonic. My report was getting buried there.
Attacks
A sequence: standard three hit, pops them away on last hit.
Dash attack: sonic spins at them. Was able to kill people in sudden death. Knocks upward I think.
Tilts
forward tilt: sticks out his foot, respectable (killable) knockback
dtilt: foot again, this one pops them up for juggling, probably won't kill without ridiculous percentage.
uptilt: looks similar to Capt. Falcon's up smash, pops them up but probably won't ever kill them. Nonetheless its good for setting his opponent for air moves.
Smashes
Forward smash: winds up his arm during the charge, attacks with a short range punch. Knockback seems strong (nothing special for forward smashes) but the attack is fast and lacks range making it somewhat tough to connect with against a non-nood opponent like luigis
Down smash: spins dashes back forth over a short distance. Think ness' yoyo but with sonic as the yoyo. Has a somewhat low arc (maybe 45 degrees) and good knockback upon hitting.
Up smash: Like bowser's, sonic does a short jump, and hangs at its apex for a bit doing a spin. Enemy's hit are caught in the spin until the last hit when they go flying out. Nonetheless, the knockback is very, very weak for a smash. Generally inferior to his uptilt for starting his upair game.
Airs
upair: A flip kick similar to fox's upair. First he splits his legs apart and out capable of hitting enemies a bit to his sides as well with no significant knock back. Then he kicks up knocking his opponents up with significant knockback.
bair: sticks his leg out. Strong knockback.
fair: drills at the enemy head first rotating his body. Last hit as weak knockback probably not enough to kill even in sudden death but knocks them far enough away to prevent sonic from continuing to attack them without altering his trajectory somehow (one of his b moves?) or landing.
dair: a diving kick similar to captain falcon's aerial downb. Pauses in midair, then going flying down at an angle. Has significant lag upon hitting the ground. Decent knockback though is horizontal. It seems like it might be cancelable?
nair: Sonic spins in place. Can have killable knockback but sometimes doesn't (maybe only on the first frame?). Nonetheless, lacking an extended hitbox, its somewhat difficult to hit your opponent with this move especially compared to the bair.
Bs
Neutral B: homing attack. Sonic floats up spinning for up to about a second if you charge it, then going flying at the nearest opponent. It has knockback that can kill, but will generally hit a grounded opponent into the ground since it comes from the air.
UpB: spring. As already demonstrated, sonic goes way high, and the sping lasts for a significant bit when used on the ground (however, unlike in sonic games, it must be jumped on to be activated and cannot simply be run into (I think)). Sonic gains control very quickly (sometime before the apex), and can perform any a move. He can also perform airdodges. He definitely cannot perform another upb but I'm not certain whether he can perform his other bmoves. It does hit in the initial ascent, but doesn't knock back at all. Nonetheless I've opened a smash ball with this move. If used in air the spring goes tumbling down and bop people. It doesn't deal significant damage or any knockback but is a great way to annoy people. Sonic will not snap to the ledge as he passes it, unlike many characters upbs now.
Side B- Jumping Spin attack: Visually sonic becomes a ball with faint blue ridges portuding from it. chargable for about a second. Sonic spin dashes at his opponent. If done on the ground he jumps barely (about the three quarters the height of his short hop, or maybe his own height). Knocks back with a high upward angle. The thing is though, that if he hits he also jumps up and it can be canceled at any time with any attack. At low percents then, he can easily follow up this attack with aerials although no one I had seen had quite mastered this. Sonic can also turn around during this move.
Down B - Grounded spin attack. Can be charged by repeatedly hitting b. Does an attack similar to Jigglypuff's, but seems less seriously momentum based. It might have some no flinch properties. Like the Side B it can also be canceled with other moves. (Update I remember this from against Super Sonic, which any attack cancels so it might not be a special property of the move)
Spin Dash notes:
1. the oddest thing about the spin dashes is that he moves slower during them than he does during his run. Charging them might increase their speed but it still seems they're slower than his awesome running speed. The speed is however, better than his horizontal air speed, so they can be used to aid his recovery though his spring jump launches him so high you probably will never need to use them in this manner.
2. All of Sonic's spin attacks are very distinguishable! They are not suitable for mind games! Stop saying this, its simply not true.
[Homing B: He floats straight up during the charge. Travels through the air leaving a after trail like in Sonic Adventure
SideB: Charges in place, he has faint blue ridges. Tends to hop along the ground
DownB: Charges in place, makes spin dash charge sound "Keee" He travels only along the ground, no ridges.
RunningA: Comes from a run.
Nair: sparkle effects, follows jumps normal trajectory.
Final Smash - Super Sonic: Screen pauses, chaos emeralds circle into sonic and he does his dbz impression. As of now, sonic cannot perform any attacks while in super sonic form, unlike yoshi. In fact, he cannot even land or pick up items. On the otherhand, he deals significant damage and knockback by simply touching people. He can also perform perhaps the ultimate cheesy ledge grap, by simply floating at the ledge. Pro. Sonic can dash across back and forth madly but that can simply be dodged. Instead, you slow sonic down upon approach and try to stand on your opponent, or where his dodge will end. Once you get the hang of controlling his inertia its relatively easy to keep standing where your opponent is going to go and keep hitting them until they die off the top or side of the stage. Going full speed at your opponents is also not that useful since they can attack at the same time and avoid taking damage as Gimpy points out.
Attacks
A sequence: standard three hit, pops them away on last hit.
Dash attack: sonic spins at them. Was able to kill people in sudden death. Knocks upward I think.
Tilts
forward tilt: sticks out his foot, respectable (killable) knockback
dtilt: foot again, this one pops them up for juggling, probably won't kill without ridiculous percentage.
uptilt: looks similar to Capt. Falcon's up smash, pops them up but probably won't ever kill them. Nonetheless its good for setting his opponent for air moves.
Smashes
Forward smash: winds up his arm during the charge, attacks with a short range punch. Knockback seems strong (nothing special for forward smashes) but the attack is fast and lacks range making it somewhat tough to connect with against a non-nood opponent like luigis
Down smash: spins dashes back forth over a short distance. Think ness' yoyo but with sonic as the yoyo. Has a somewhat low arc (maybe 45 degrees) and good knockback upon hitting.
Up smash: Like bowser's, sonic does a short jump, and hangs at its apex for a bit doing a spin. Enemy's hit are caught in the spin until the last hit when they go flying out. Nonetheless, the knockback is very, very weak for a smash. Generally inferior to his uptilt for starting his upair game.
Airs
upair: A flip kick similar to fox's upair. First he splits his legs apart and out capable of hitting enemies a bit to his sides as well with no significant knock back. Then he kicks up knocking his opponents up with significant knockback.
bair: sticks his leg out. Strong knockback.
fair: drills at the enemy head first rotating his body. Last hit as weak knockback probably not enough to kill even in sudden death but knocks them far enough away to prevent sonic from continuing to attack them without altering his trajectory somehow (one of his b moves?) or landing.
dair: a diving kick similar to captain falcon's aerial downb. Pauses in midair, then going flying down at an angle. Has significant lag upon hitting the ground. Decent knockback though is horizontal. It seems like it might be cancelable?
nair: Sonic spins in place. Can have killable knockback but sometimes doesn't (maybe only on the first frame?). Nonetheless, lacking an extended hitbox, its somewhat difficult to hit your opponent with this move especially compared to the bair.
Bs
Neutral B: homing attack. Sonic floats up spinning for up to about a second if you charge it, then going flying at the nearest opponent. It has knockback that can kill, but will generally hit a grounded opponent into the ground since it comes from the air.
UpB: spring. As already demonstrated, sonic goes way high, and the sping lasts for a significant bit when used on the ground (however, unlike in sonic games, it must be jumped on to be activated and cannot simply be run into (I think)). Sonic gains control very quickly (sometime before the apex), and can perform any a move. He can also perform airdodges. He definitely cannot perform another upb but I'm not certain whether he can perform his other bmoves. It does hit in the initial ascent, but doesn't knock back at all. Nonetheless I've opened a smash ball with this move. If used in air the spring goes tumbling down and bop people. It doesn't deal significant damage or any knockback but is a great way to annoy people. Sonic will not snap to the ledge as he passes it, unlike many characters upbs now.
Side B- Jumping Spin attack: Visually sonic becomes a ball with faint blue ridges portuding from it. chargable for about a second. Sonic spin dashes at his opponent. If done on the ground he jumps barely (about the three quarters the height of his short hop, or maybe his own height). Knocks back with a high upward angle. The thing is though, that if he hits he also jumps up and it can be canceled at any time with any attack. At low percents then, he can easily follow up this attack with aerials although no one I had seen had quite mastered this. Sonic can also turn around during this move.
Down B - Grounded spin attack. Can be charged by repeatedly hitting b. Does an attack similar to Jigglypuff's, but seems less seriously momentum based. It might have some no flinch properties. Like the Side B it can also be canceled with other moves. (Update I remember this from against Super Sonic, which any attack cancels so it might not be a special property of the move)
Spin Dash notes:
1. the oddest thing about the spin dashes is that he moves slower during them than he does during his run. Charging them might increase their speed but it still seems they're slower than his awesome running speed. The speed is however, better than his horizontal air speed, so they can be used to aid his recovery though his spring jump launches him so high you probably will never need to use them in this manner.
2. All of Sonic's spin attacks are very distinguishable! They are not suitable for mind games! Stop saying this, its simply not true.
[Homing B: He floats straight up during the charge. Travels through the air leaving a after trail like in Sonic Adventure
SideB: Charges in place, he has faint blue ridges. Tends to hop along the ground
DownB: Charges in place, makes spin dash charge sound "Keee" He travels only along the ground, no ridges.
RunningA: Comes from a run.
Nair: sparkle effects, follows jumps normal trajectory.
Final Smash - Super Sonic: Screen pauses, chaos emeralds circle into sonic and he does his dbz impression. As of now, sonic cannot perform any attacks while in super sonic form, unlike yoshi. In fact, he cannot even land or pick up items. On the otherhand, he deals significant damage and knockback by simply touching people. He can also perform perhaps the ultimate cheesy ledge grap, by simply floating at the ledge. Pro. Sonic can dash across back and forth madly but that can simply be dodged. Instead, you slow sonic down upon approach and try to stand on your opponent, or where his dodge will end. Once you get the hang of controlling his inertia its relatively easy to keep standing where your opponent is going to go and keep hitting them until they die off the top or side of the stage. Going full speed at your opponents is also not that useful since they can attack at the same time and avoid taking damage as Gimpy points out.
