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While still holding down, just stop pressing B.
Actually, Camalange, there IS a more safe cancel for the Down B that I discovered. It's not a shield cancel, but this cancel gives you an active hitbox and gives you mobility, AND the ability to act out of it with aerials, specials and a jump.While still holding down, just stop pressing B.
It's not so much a cancel as much as it is just letting the charge die out. There's no true "cancel" for it like the Side-B with shield.
I didn't include VSDJ in my response since it isn't so much a cancel as much as it is just an option he has to act out of it. Otherwise I'd have also mention that you can Spinshot out of a grounded Side-B, unlike the Down-B, which makes it even more limited.
Hmm, DI away whenever grabbed and always expect the down B when they're recovering (a well timed HA can hit that, I suppose). I guess I should have more advice but all I play is FG and no one on my list plays ZSS..
HA on shield is quite punishable as well, as long as you can react quickly. A whiffed running attack also has a lot of lag but Spin specials are a pain, specially online. Usually shield them and then react accordingly (aerial OoS if he jumps or turnaround running attack if they go past you). I don't think the new grab mechanics allow Sonic to be grabbed out of a Spin special anymore but I might be wrong.
Can you give more details?
Do you mean Sonic did a D-throw?
**** XD. Yeah Sonic did a D-throw (I was in a rush to leave).Do you mean Sonic did a D-throw?
I'm not as familiar with Mario Circuit, but I imagine those were all platforms that could be "sharked" through, no? Maybe it's easier on that stage than others.
I can't remember exactly what causes it because it was way more specific in Brawl. It happened on like, one side of Battlefield with Sonic D-throwing D3 with his back to the ledge...
I think on those kind of platforms, it could happen if you were DI'ing down or something along those lines.
Does anyone else remember this more clearly? Maybe I could dig up some Brawl archives...
Yup, it's quite the silly Sonic glitch. Of course they didn't learn to fix it from Brawl... Typical.
Depends on your preference, ultimately.
2/3 Of your mains are Zard and Bowser, couldn't you just burn their spindashes with flamethrower? Sonic's spin is good, but its priority is laughably low and a lot of moves can beat him out of it. Zard should also be able to use his near godlike Nair.
Not to mention that HA ****ing targets the rocket AND the tree..I find Villager to be a hard match up for Sonic too. He has a lot of zoning options that limit Sonic's approaches (which is true for most of the cast, not just sonic, but it disrupts my flow so much as sonic) - Loid rockets, slingshots, tree&sapling. Also he is sooo slippery to gimp off stage.
You really have to mix up your approaches a lot against Villager, but you have limited options
I jump with X. If you want to Up B OoS with tap jump off just make Y Special.I don't use tap jump because it's easier to spinshot without it imo. Also, one of the only technical advantages of tap jump is to make Up-B out of shield faster/easier but Sonic doesn't really utilize that so... I just play without it.
Threw me off at first too because the timing is slightly different, but it's still easy. You'll get used to it.
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Why does that work?
1. You're going to get a lot of different answers depending on who you ask. The general consensus seems to be people who can either zone super well, or force Sonic to approach unfavorably / limit his options.
I think we almost all agree to Sheik, but I would also say Rosaluma, Olimar, just any match-up that does what Kinzer said. The reason why Sonic suffers against characters that zone him out or force him to approach is because...
... His approach options are ass. I disagree with Kinzer on range. I think Sonic's range is fairly decent, and even better than from Brawl overall.
I already sort of touched on this, but yeah, you're going to need to be more specific.
Jab.
It's also broken down into intense detail in the OP...
HA is just kinda janky in general. You can understand it to a degree... Like, it locks onto projectiles and things that will hurt you which sucks. It just has a certain lock-on range and the way it determines what to lock-on to isn't always ideal.
There's a certain point during the animation where it "locks on". You can't go off of when you first pressed B, as that won't be when it recognizes a target.
3. You're gonna need to be more specific here. Do you mean his attack or the move itself? Anybody here could give you a grocery list on the reasons why just directly attacking with Side-B is bad; but, the move itself has so much use outside of a direct offense that tackling that is a whole other beast.
The attack itself. A lot of people on the subreddit hate that move, but I guess I'll have to cover every option out of Spin Dash somehow. Thanks for the info.
I think I sorta understand it a little betterThere's a certain point during the animation where it "locks on". You can't go off of when you first pressed B, as that won't be when it recognizes a target.