TheMagicalKuja
Smash Champion
^Exactly. The fact that very few people use him correctly accentuates that his learning curve is ridiculous.
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Sonic Counters
- Thread starter Sonic XD
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Not having to use the same finger to cover 3 actions is an advantage.
skrach8
Smash Lord
nerf jumps with neutral b. solution vs kirby off level. full hop off level, then abuse Neutral B. that move is meant to be used when u know the trajectory of ur opponent.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
have you tried the homing attack against competent humans? it doesn't work exceptionally well
Zone
Smash Champion
C-stick was awsome in melee because when you used it, it could help you do the following 3 things way easier, get your smash attack out of ur previous move like (Wavedash) AT the soonist frame. Or to do shffl'd up-airs, Or retreating forward airs/b-airs.
So unless these options are still there, I don't see a reason how lack of C-stick can make nunchuck bad?
Don't get me wrong, I like the Game Cube Controller, But the reason most of you may not like wii-mote and nunchuck is cuz it just in general doesn't feel right because you already adjusted to gamecube. Same with the X or Y to jump discussion.
Arguments for Y is the better jump button because of it's placement is good.
But To me When I use it, because I'm not use to it, I feel akward and funny like i'm learning a new game. Not only that but When I shffl with Fox, using X My button, my finger wants to fly to the C-stick as fast as possible, and it makes less short hop mistakes (For me personally).
so
1.) Personal Preference
2.) Nunchuck has a joystick so does GameCube
3.) Unless you need to hit the D-pad and 1+2 while using nunchuck, I don't see a finger problem.
People find different ways to do techs for themselves. I've seen people do some weird things with their hands on the gamecube controller to do things like Moonwalk, Jump cancelled Shines. Such as using the gamecube controller like it's a keyboard, I've seen someone use the left joystick with their left index Finger and Thumb pinching it.
IMO as long as you can short hop, and do every option the Game Cube Controller has, and the player can play it consecutively. Neither controller is inferior to the other, unless one - two options are taken out. Because it's all about the player.
So unless these options are still there, I don't see a reason how lack of C-stick can make nunchuck bad?
Don't get me wrong, I like the Game Cube Controller, But the reason most of you may not like wii-mote and nunchuck is cuz it just in general doesn't feel right because you already adjusted to gamecube. Same with the X or Y to jump discussion.
Arguments for Y is the better jump button because of it's placement is good.
But To me When I use it, because I'm not use to it, I feel akward and funny like i'm learning a new game. Not only that but When I shffl with Fox, using X My button, my finger wants to fly to the C-stick as fast as possible, and it makes less short hop mistakes (For me personally).
so
1.) Personal Preference
2.) Nunchuck has a joystick so does GameCube
3.) Unless you need to hit the D-pad and 1+2 while using nunchuck, I don't see a finger problem.
People find different ways to do techs for themselves. I've seen people do some weird things with their hands on the gamecube controller to do things like Moonwalk, Jump cancelled Shines. Such as using the gamecube controller like it's a keyboard, I've seen someone use the left joystick with their left index Finger and Thumb pinching it.
IMO as long as you can short hop, and do every option the Game Cube Controller has, and the player can play it consecutively. Neither controller is inferior to the other, unless one - two options are taken out. Because it's all about the player.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
so... long story short, the wiimote+nunchuk is in no way superior to the GCN controller and does not UNLOCK the hiden potential of sonic.
People have different styles of gameplay, it doesnt matter what controller you use. But the wiimote + nunchuck uses less finger movements.
Dragonbreath
Smash Ace
Well, it certainly doesn't give him magical knockout potential to his specials or anything. But there is a difference, if only on the motor skills level. I doubt it's a matter of the control scheme so much as the players, though. Still, I'm going to have to wait until I get a hands-on to make any affirmations.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
in what way does it use less finger movements? I mean my hands don't move much from the buttons they are originally on.
left is on control stick and L
right is on A, B and Z... though it will move to C-Stick once in a while.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
I guess I could see that... though I use Up to jump to it's not quite as big a deal for me..
Personally I thought the wiimote on its own didn't use as much finger movements as the gamecube setup did, but I'd have to say that the wiimote/nunchuck setup is pretty similar (except it simply feels a bit more awkward to me).
Shake smash is pretty nice; there's pretty much no downside to enabling it on your controller, unless you have arthritis or some condition that makes you chronically shake your hands while playing smash. You only need to sort of flip it lightly in the direction you'd like to insta-smash, so it can be pretty similar to the c-stick in comparison from my observations.
Hmm, cool.
However, given that motion-sensing can never be quite as accurate as good ol' button-pushing, I'm slightly more inclined towards the GC controller. Even though I have to this day never performed a c-stick smash (because I'm a casual noob). But the hyphen-smashing and extra-range fsmash sound like they could both benefit greatly from it.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
agreed... while it might be benificial in the dividing of labor so that the thumb doesn't have to do all... motion sensing isn't as accurate or relaible as a button... so I can never see the wiimote and nunchuck overtaking the GCN controller.
Yeah. If there wasn't the whole issue of Wiimote/Nunchucks most likely being the controller enforced for the Gamestop tournament, I'd be back with my beloved wavebird.
DDAY
Smash Rookie
Sonic is awesome against slow characters(obv). Ike's an easy opponent, as is DK and perhaps Dedede. Metaknight vs Sonic is a pretty good matchup. Marth is definitely tough to beat as Sonic. Overall, forget about character matchups.. just be Sonic The Edgehog.