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[Komotonoto]

@ Komotonoto

Those days are over... wut

 

[Shears]

As a Kirby main, in the Smash 64 community, I've been thinking about starting an all Kirby clan. If you're a Kirby main as well, and this peaks your interest, please feel free to post here, and/or message me. Thanx! :D

All rude posts/trolls, will be ignored, and most likely deleted.

And I thought the KKK was a bad clan...


Edit: WTF @ Madao ?

 

[Fireblaster]

And some people play this matchup on purpose

FOR FUN

 

[Shears]

You're going to need a clan name. How does King Kirby Klan sound?

 

[Kahnu]

You're going to need a clan name. How does King Kirby Klan sound?

I was thinking the Kool Kolorfull Kirbys would also be an excellent name.

 

[Deleted member]

(please delete this message)

 

[Kahnu]

Hmmm... not bad. But no.

If my name was King Kirby maybe. lol

How about Kirby Kadaver Krushers?

[insert more KKK jokes here]

 

[Shears]

Hmmm... not bad. But no.

If my name was King Kirby maybe. lol

Kuddly Kirby Klan?

 

[Kahnu]

Kuddly Kirby Klan?

If you don't like Clan, we could be the Kuddly Kirby Krew.

 

[caneut]

i thought smasherx74 was supposed to be banned on smashboards? @Shaya @ Madao @hitler @Mic_128

 

[T Brett]

hey @ Madao how does that anime guy see through those leaves on his eyes?
or is it like what blind people wore in the anime times?
or is this like a mix between xmen and pokemon? and he is holding back razor leaf coming out his eye sockets just like cyclops?
yoo that **** would hurt
#animelogic

also +1 for Kuddly Kirby Klan I'd join that **** so fast

 

[MrMarbles]

hey @ Madao how does that anime guy see through those leaves on his eyes?
or is it like what blind people wore in the anime times?
or is this like a mix between xmen and pokemon? and he is holding back razor leaf coming out his eye sockets just like cyclops?
yoo that **** would hurt
#animelogic

also +1 for Kuddly Kirby Klan I'd join that **** so fast

says the guy whos avatar has leaves on its head

Edit:although tbh i had never looked closely at his avatar and this whole time i thought they were sunglasses not leave. mind blown

 

[T Brett]

son your cat is wearing a tie

 

[MrMarbles]

son your cat is wearing a tie

checkmate atheists

 

[Shears]

Am I the only one who looked at madaos avatar and thought wild thornberries instead of anime?

 

[caneut]

hey @ Madao how does that anime guy see through those leaves on his eyes?
or is it like what blind people wore in the anime times?
or is this like a mix between xmen and pokemon? and he is holding back razor leaf coming out his eye sockets just like cyclops?
yoo that **** would hurt
#animelogic

also +1 for Kuddly Kirby Klan I'd join that **** so fast

i mean, half of all anime characters have their eyes closed 100% of the time, whats the difference here

 

[AthensHorseParty]

Why the **** doesn't Brock ever open his eyes? Is he blind? Does he use geodude like a guide dog?

 

[Kahnu]

Does anybody think cuddlytoys is just amazing?

He constantly gets wrecked on FU so his mentality is to kick/ignore all users who try to fight/contact him.

Cmon, @cuddlytoys

Cuddlytoys is not smasherx lol
Cuddlytoys is relatvely new to the online scene

He is the reincarnation of smasherx


that moment when you remember @KeroKeroppi looked like this

 

[Timotheus]

Two adaptoids for sale

http://m.ebay.com/itm/291426487550?nav=SEARCH

http://m.ebay.com/itm/171751064943?nav=SEARCH

 

[Studstill]

For your perusal and comment:

[3:19:32 PM] Lord Starwhal: ps3 > n64 controllers stll
[3:19:43 PM] Studstill: Sure. And thus illegal.
[3:20:10 PM] Studstill: The lack of humility on non-OG controller use has hardened my views.
[3:20:28 PM] Lord Starwhal: there needs to be more support for them
[3:20:34 PM] Studstill: No.
[3:20:35 PM] Lord Starwhal: emulator has done a good job in this
[3:20:37 PM] Studstill: What?
[3:20:39 PM] Lord Starwhal: console needs to step it up
[3:20:39 PM] Studstill: No.
[3:20:44 PM] Lord Starwhal: we have the technology
[3:20:49 PM] Lord Starwhal: and we have knitephox
[3:20:50 PM] Studstill: To cheat?
[3:20:53 PM] Lord Starwhal: LOL
[3:20:59 PM] Studstill: Seriously.
[3:21:00 PM] Studstill: Look
[3:21:03 PM] Dan Hoyt: I don't see anything wrong with ps3 controller
[3:21:19 PM] Studstill: Boom.
[3:21:24 PM] Studstill: So if LD beats you
[3:21:31 PM] Studstill: While using a 360 adapter
[3:21:38 PM] Studstill: But can`t get a stock with OG
[3:21:48 PM] Studstill: You think that no one will attach an * to that win?
[3:21:54 PM] Studstill: Or more importantly
[3:21:58 PM] Studstill: You wouldn`t?
[3:22:05 PM] Dan Hoyt: I wouldn't care
[3:22:06 PM] Studstill: You`d feel like he beat you at SSB64?
[3:22:07 PM] Lord Starwhal: Some money migt get attached to that win
[3:22:22 PM] Studstill: That he was superior in skill and timing?
[3:22:36 PM] Studstill: That it would evidence that? I believe it will go the way of Roger Maris.
[3:22:39 PM] Studstill: Asterisks.
[3:22:42 PM Studstill: Shame.
[3:22:59 PM] Lord Starwhal: you said hori controlller was cheating, yet it's offical 2nd gen og nintendo
[3:23:04 PM] Studstill: What
[3:23:06 PM] Studstill: Bull****.
[3:23:11 PM] Studstill: Proof.
[3:23:14 PM] Dan Hoyt: why do you view it as cheating?
[3:23:19 PM] Studstill: Simplest form
[3:23:35 PM] Studstill: Assumptions:
[3:30:47 PM] Studstill:
1. Joysticks control movement input.
2. Different joysticks have different physical properties.
3. The most meaningful of these is speed.
4. There are a finite number of possible movement inputs and these are all possible on all joysticks.

If a joystick can be moved faster from left to right (infinitely fast in the case of KB) then there are combinations of inputs that are possible on some controllers that are not on others.
[3:30:49 PM] Lord Starwhal: looooooool
[3:31:04 PM] Derek Bancarz: dereks stick = cheating, because with it, you will never lose a game, living proof right here (highfive)
[3:31:22 PM] Derek Bancarz: nap time
[3:31:32 PM] Studstill: Yeaht that Link was clapping in the background while I was dancing in the front the other day, mortal.
[3:31:35 PM] Derek Bancarz: thought id check up on the fam before sleeping
[3:31:35 PM] Studstill: Just saying.
[3:33:47 PM] Dan Hoyt: in regards to speed, you think official HORI is cheating too?
[3:34:15 PM] Dan Hoyt: you will get faster movements on that controller
[3:34:20 PM] Dan Hoyt: better DI
[3:34:36 PM] Dan Hoyt: derek stick same thing
[3:34:55 PM] Studstill: Then it gets tricky
[3:35:06 PM] Studstill: The idea is
[3:35:17 PM] Studstill: The game was tested and balanced on one controller.
[3:35:45 PM] Dan Hoyt: before you go on, the reason it wouldn't bother me to lose to a non OG player is because I'm facing their full power, whereas on OG it's a gimped state
[3:36:04 PM] Lord Starwhal: Dan the man
[3:36:09 PM] Lord Starwhal: (heart)
[3:36:10 PM] Studstill: A self-imposed gimp state, though
[3:36:14 PM] Lord Starwhal: LOL
[3:36:32 PM] Dan Hoyt: I can understand why people don't play on n64 stick
[3:36:42 PM] Studstill: Your words didn`t quite cover a reason though, but to intuit
[3:37:16 PM] Studstill: "I wouldnt care because I am a true champion and make no excuses. A win is a win."
[3:37:48 PM] Studstill: I can respect that, as can we all, assuming the paraphrase is correct.
[3:38:09 PM] Studstill: However, Dan
[3:38:37 PM] Studstill: In your current phrasing you would box someone on steroids, because they use them and thus that is them at full power.
[3:38:49 PM] Studstill: Again, a respectful opinion for the actual combatant
[3:39:09 PM] Studstill: But I would maintain it disrupts the integrity of the competition.
[3:39:36 PM] Lord Starwhal: [3:38 PM] Studstill:

<<< In your current phrasing you would box someone on steroids, because they use them and thus that is them at full power.

(rofl)

[3:40:02 PM] Studstill: I`m unsure how all these people can make these virulent arguments for ABSOLUTE in game "fairness" i.e. DL only, but somehow allow different input technology in reality.
[3:40:26 PM] Studstill: Seems picky/choosy
[3:40:40 PM] Dan Hoyt: I don't believe steroids would be the best analogy here. It would be more relatable to something like baseball. Having a metal ball(correct here) over a wooden bat.
[3:40:44 PM] Dan Hoyt: what's the best bat btw?
[3:40:46 PM] Studstill: Right
[3:40:48 PM] Studstill: Perfect Dan
[3:40:51 PM] Studstill: Exactly
[3:40:55 PM] Studstill: Metal is far superior.
[3:41:01 PM] Studstill: but it changes the game.
[3:41:09 PM] Studstill: The game is wooden bat baseball
[3:41:19 PM] Studstill: The game is N64 SSB
[3:41:23 PM] Studstill: on an N64
[3:41:28 PM] Studstill: With an N64 controller
[3:41:47 PM Studstill: I`m only saying it`s cheating when they pretend it is the same game
[3:42:25 PM] Dan Hoyt: I still see it as a controller preference more than anything. That's exactly how it is for LD, however in Killer's case it's kinda dumb
[3:42:29 PM] Dan Hoyt: so it's a case by case imo
[3:42:33 PM] Studstill: how do you mean?
[3:42:40 PM] Studstill: I`m unfamiliar
[3:42:53 PM] Studstill: with the distinction
[3:43:08 PM] Dan Hoyt: LD does the same **** on his 360 controller as OG, but he's unused to OG stick and thinks it sucks
[3:43:13 PM] Lord Starwhal: ^
[3:43:24 PM] Dan Hoyt: whereas Killer uses a specific kind of keyboard to get ridiculous DI
[3:43:27 PM] Dan Hoyt: that is cheating I think
[3:43:32 PM] Studstill: Of course it is.
[3:43:33 PM] Lord Starwhal: i go for comfort
[3:43:36 PM] Lord Starwhal: and pwn in style
[3:43:38 PM] Lord Starwhal: on ps3
[3:43:40 PM] Dan Hoyt: my keyboard I can't di for **** lol
[3:43:44 PM] Studstill: ^
[3:43:59 PM] Studstill: When people use that as an argument (not that you are) it drives me ****ing mad
[3:44:08 PM] Lord Starwhal: (devil)
[3:44:14 PM] Studstill: It`s not better because I suck at X/Y
[3:44:26 PM] Studstill: Again, not that you are making that argument
[3:44:27 PM] Dan Hoyt: im not comparing my di skill
[3:44:29 PM] Studstill: Right.
[3:44:31 PM] Dan Hoyt: just saying my kb sucks at di
[3:44:37 PM] Studstill: Ah.
[3:44:42 PM] Dan Hoyt: it's specific models that gives it more range for some reason
[3:44:55 PM] Studstill: WEll I mean anytime
[3:44:57 PM] Studstill: I play someone
[3:45:00 PM] Studstill: And I`m like
[3:45:12 PM] Studstill: Man they are moving so fast they must be incredible at timing
[3:45:15 PM] Studstill: and then its
[3:45:19 PM] Studstill: Oh I`m on KB
[3:45:24 PM] Studstill: or 360 dpad
[3:45:31 PM] Studstill: It`s not about being more difficult
[3:45:35 PM] Studstill: it isn`t that simple.
[3:45:50 PM] Studstill: The bat analogy is amazing, you ermm hit that one out of the park.
[3:45:55 PM] Studstill: : D
[3:45:59 PM] Dan Hoyt: haha
[3:46:15 PM] Dan Hoyt: at this point I'm for controller preference
[3:46:17 PM] Lord Starwhal: :$
[3:46:33 PM] Dan Hoyt: if the game was more popular, I would like a regulation on adapted controllers
[3:46:59 PM] Dan Hoyt: as of right now though, I don't mind the use, people are just used to their controllers
[3:47:24 PM] Studstill: Right. I don`t like the crybaby aspect of it at all and it usually warps these convos for me.
[3:47:40 PM] Studstill: LD makes some really ****ty logic sometimes.
[3:47:55 PM] Lord Starwhal: what kind of regulation are you thinking of dan
[3:48:01 PM] Lord Starwhal: certain types of controllers?
[3:48:03 PM] Studstill: He means standardization more likely
[3:48:09 PM] Studstill: than regulation.
[3:48:11 PM] Dan Hoyt: limitation on range
[3:48:12 PM] Studstill: ^
[3:49:19 PM] Lord Starwhal: is that the same as deadzone? i have no idea what that means honestly
[3:49:43 PM] Studstill: It means
[3:49:48 PM] Studstill: you run immediately
[3:49:58 PM] Studstill: If you look at the game
[3:50:07 PM] Studstill: most things have about a 3 frame window for input
[3:50:10 PM] Dan Hoyt: you know the floppy part on the 64 stick?
[3:50:13 PM] Dan Hoyt: that's deadzone rofl
[3:50:20 PM] Studstill: Smashes for example
[3:51:03 PM] Studstill: These % figures are from memory so I`m fudging them but they are accurate enough for these purposes
[3:51:12 PM] Studstill: To do an F smash
[3:51:23 PM] Lord Starwhal: the thingie in the middle?
[3:51:56 PM] Studstill: you move from 0-15% to 66%+ in one frame: Fsmash.
You do it in 2 frames, F smash.
you do it in 3 frames: F smash.
[3:52:40 PM] Studstill: If your range is up, you basically get an immediate one frame Smash attack
[3:52:59 PM] Studstill: without having to physically move the joystick that far within one frame.
[3:53:07 PM] Studstill: You can move and do moves literally faster.
[3:53:19 PM] Studstill: On deadzone, ya Dan rofl
[3:53:20 PM] Studstill: NTA
[3:53:32 PM] Lord Starwhal: is that why you have the move the stick harder when the range is lower?
[3:53:43 PM] Studstill: By harder you mean faster and yes.
[3:54:15 PM] Studstill: But Dan is on the same point as me, which is there should be only ONE range setting, the OG N64 one.
[3:54:21 PM] Studstill: And all other controllers need to be tested
[3:54:40 PM] Studstill: to determine what range setting for them is most like that of the 64.
[3:55:01 PM] Studstill: I believe that`s what he means by 'regulation'
[3:55:12 PM] Studstill: KB is right the **** out though, IMO.
[3:55:20 PM] Lord Starwhal: pwned
[3:55:25 PM] Studstill: I don`t even see any argumnet there.
[3:55:28 PM] Dan Hoyt: kb is an interesting one
[3:55:55 PM] Studstill: Because its so obviously not a variable input?
[3:56:01 PM] Studstill: I.e. joystick.
[3:56:02 PM] Lord Starwhal: how was your experience with the keyboard at that tournament
[3:57:06 PM] Studstill: Dan, NTA, I think this is good convo and am too lazy to cut paste, any objections to me bulk pasting it to SB?
[3:57:28 PM] Lord Starwhal: ok sure
[3:59:07 PM] Dan Hoyt: idc
[3:59:27 PM] Lord Starwhal: (heart)

 

[Fireblaster]

I agree that any adapters should only have the most range equivalent to that of an official n64 controller, AKA The Hori.

 

[Kahnu]

For your perusal and comment:

[3:19:32 PM] Lord Starwhal: ps3 > n64 controllers stll
[3:19:43 PM] Studstill: Sure. And thus illegal.
[3:20:10 PM] Studstill: The lack of humility on non-OG controller use has hardened my views.
[3:20:28 PM] Lord Starwhal: there needs to be more support for them
[3:20:34 PM] Studstill: No.
[3:20:35 PM] Lord Starwhal: emulator has done a good job in this
[3:20:37 PM] Studstill: What?
[3:20:39 PM] Lord Starwhal: console needs to step it up
[3:20:39 PM] Studstill: No.
[3:20:44 PM] Lord Starwhal: we have the technology
[3:20:49 PM] Lord Starwhal: and we have knitephox
[3:20:50 PM] Studstill: To cheat?
[3:20:53 PM] Lord Starwhal: LOL
[3:20:59 PM] Studstill: Seriously.
[3:21:00 PM] Studstill: Look
[3:21:03 PM] Dan Hoyt: I don't see anything wrong with ps3 controller
[3:21:19 PM] Studstill: Boom.
[3:21:24 PM] Studstill: So if LD beats you
[3:21:31 PM] Studstill: While using a 360 adapter
[3:21:38 PM] Studstill: But can`t get a stock with OG
[3:21:48 PM] Studstill: You think that no one will attach an * to that win?
[3:21:54 PM] Studstill: Or more importantly
[3:21:58 PM] Studstill: You wouldn`t?
[3:22:05 PM] Dan Hoyt: I wouldn't care
[3:22:06 PM] Studstill: You`d feel like he beat you at SSB64?
[3:22:07 PM] Lord Starwhal: Some money migt get attached to that win
[3:22:22 PM] Studstill: That he was superior in skill and timing?
[3:22:36 PM] Studstill: That it would evidence that? I believe it will go the way of Roger Maris.
[3:22:39 PM] Studstill: Asterisks.
[3:22:42 PM Studstill: Shame.
[3:22:59 PM] Lord Starwhal: you said hori controlller was cheating, yet it's offical 2nd gen og nintendo
[3:23:04 PM] Studstill: What
[3:23:06 PM] Studstill: Bull****.
[3:23:11 PM] Studstill: Proof.
[3:23:14 PM] Dan Hoyt: why do you view it as cheating?
[3:23:19 PM] Studstill: Simplest form
[3:23:35 PM] Studstill: Assumptions:
[3:30:47 PM] Studstill:
1. Joysticks control movement input.
2. Different joysticks have different physical properties.
3. The most meaningful of these is speed.
4. There are a finite number of possible movement inputs and these are all possible on all joysticks.

If a joystick can be moved faster from left to right (infinitely fast in the case of KB) then there are combinations of inputs that are possible on some controllers that are not on others.
[3:30:49 PM] Lord Starwhal: looooooool
[3:31:04 PM] Derek Bancarz: dereks stick = cheating, because with it, you will never lose a game, living proof right here (highfive)
[3:31:22 PM] Derek Bancarz: nap time
[3:31:32 PM] Studstill: Yeaht that Link was clapping in the background while I was dancing in the front the other day, mortal.
[3:31:35 PM] Derek Bancarz: thought id check up on the fam before sleeping
[3:31:35 PM] Studstill: Just saying.
[3:33:47 PM] Dan Hoyt: in regards to speed, you think official HORI is cheating too?
[3:34:15 PM] Dan Hoyt: you will get faster movements on that controller
[3:34:20 PM] Dan Hoyt: better DI
[3:34:36 PM] Dan Hoyt: derek stick same thing
[3:34:55 PM] Studstill: Then it gets tricky
[3:35:06 PM] Studstill: The idea is
[3:35:17 PM] Studstill: The game was tested and balanced on one controller.
[3:35:45 PM] Dan Hoyt: before you go on, the reason it wouldn't bother me to lose to a non OG player is because I'm facing their full power, whereas on OG it's a gimped state
[3:36:04 PM] Lord Starwhal: Dan the man
[3:36:09 PM] Lord Starwhal: (heart)
[3:36:10 PM] Studstill: A self-imposed gimp state, though
[3:36:14 PM] Lord Starwhal: LOL
[3:36:32 PM] Dan Hoyt: I can understand why people don't play on n64 stick
[3:36:42 PM] Studstill: Your words didn`t quite cover a reason though, but to intuit
[3:37:16 PM] Studstill: "I wouldnt care because I am a true champion and make no excuses. A win is a win."
[3:37:48 PM] Studstill: I can respect that, as can we all, assuming the paraphrase is correct.
[3:38:09 PM] Studstill: However, Dan
[3:38:37 PM] Studstill: In your current phrasing you would box someone on steroids, because they use them and thus that is them at full power.
[3:38:49 PM] Studstill: Again, a respectful opinion for the actual combatant
[3:39:09 PM] Studstill: But I would maintain it disrupts the integrity of the competition.
[3:39:36 PM] Lord Starwhal: [3:38 PM] Studstill:

<<< In your current phrasing you would box someone on steroids, because they use them and thus that is them at full power.

(rofl)

[3:40:02 PM] Studstill: I`m unsure how all these people can make these virulent arguments for ABSOLUTE in game "fairness" i.e. DL only, but somehow allow different input technology in reality.
[3:40:26 PM] Studstill: Seems picky/choosy
[3:40:40 PM] Dan Hoyt: I don't believe steroids would be the best analogy here. It would be more relatable to something like baseball. Having a metal ball(correct here) over a wooden bat.
[3:40:44 PM] Dan Hoyt: what's the best bat btw?
[3:40:46 PM] Studstill: Right
[3:40:48 PM] Studstill: Perfect Dan
[3:40:51 PM] Studstill: Exactly
[3:40:55 PM] Studstill: Metal is far superior.
[3:41:01 PM] Studstill: but it changes the game.
[3:41:09 PM] Studstill: The game is wooden bat baseball
[3:41:19 PM] Studstill: The game is N64 SSB
[3:41:23 PM] Studstill: on an N64
[3:41:28 PM] Studstill: With an N64 controller
[3:41:47 PM Studstill: I`m only saying it`s cheating when they pretend it is the same game
[3:42:25 PM] Dan Hoyt: I still see it as a controller preference more than anything. That's exactly how it is for LD, however in Killer's case it's kinda dumb
[3:42:29 PM] Dan Hoyt: so it's a case by case imo
[3:42:33 PM] Studstill: how do you mean?
[3:42:40 PM] Studstill: I`m unfamiliar
[3:42:53 PM] Studstill: with the distinction
[3:43:08 PM] Dan Hoyt: LD does the same **** on his 360 controller as OG, but he's unused to OG stick and thinks it sucks
[3:43:13 PM] Lord Starwhal: ^
[3:43:24 PM] Dan Hoyt: whereas Killer uses a specific kind of keyboard to get ridiculous DI
[3:43:27 PM] Dan Hoyt: that is cheating I think
[3:43:32 PM] Studstill: Of course it is.
[3:43:33 PM] Lord Starwhal: i go for comfort
[3:43:36 PM] Lord Starwhal: and pwn in style
[3:43:38 PM] Lord Starwhal: on ps3
[3:43:40 PM] Dan Hoyt: my keyboard I can't di for **** lol
[3:43:44 PM] Studstill: ^
[3:43:59 PM] Studstill: When people use that as an argument (not that you are) it drives me ****ing mad
[3:44:08 PM] Lord Starwhal: (devil)
[3:44:14 PM] Studstill: It`s not better because I suck at X/Y
[3:44:26 PM] Studstill: Again, not that you are making that argument
[3:44:27 PM] Dan Hoyt: im not comparing my di skill
[3:44:29 PM] Studstill: Right.
[3:44:31 PM] Dan Hoyt: just saying my kb sucks at di
[3:44:37 PM] Studstill: Ah.
[3:44:42 PM] Dan Hoyt: it's specific models that gives it more range for some reason
[3:44:55 PM] Studstill: WEll I mean anytime
[3:44:57 PM] Studstill: I play someone
[3:45:00 PM] Studstill: And I`m like
[3:45:12 PM] Studstill: Man they are moving so fast they must be incredible at timing
[3:45:15 PM] Studstill: and then its
[3:45:19 PM] Studstill: Oh I`m on KB
[3:45:24 PM] Studstill: or 360 dpad
[3:45:31 PM] Studstill: It`s not about being more difficult
[3:45:35 PM] Studstill: it isn`t that simple.
[3:45:50 PM] Studstill: The bat analogy is amazing, you ermm hit that one out of the park.
[3:45:55 PM] Studstill: : D
[3:45:59 PM] Dan Hoyt: haha
[3:46:15 PM] Dan Hoyt: at this point I'm for controller preference
[3:46:17 PM] Lord Starwhal: :$
[3:46:33 PM] Dan Hoyt: if the game was more popular, I would like a regulation on adapted controllers
[3:46:59 PM] Dan Hoyt: as of right now though, I don't mind the use, people are just used to their controllers
[3:47:24 PM] Studstill: Right. I don`t like the crybaby aspect of it at all and it usually warps these convos for me.
[3:47:40 PM] Studstill: LD makes some really ****ty logic sometimes.
[3:47:55 PM] Lord Starwhal: what kind of regulation are you thinking of dan
[3:48:01 PM] Lord Starwhal: certain types of controllers?
[3:48:03 PM] Studstill: He means standardization more likely
[3:48:09 PM] Studstill: than regulation.
[3:48:11 PM] Dan Hoyt: limitation on range
[3:48:12 PM] Studstill: ^
[3:49:19 PM] Lord Starwhal: is that the same as deadzone? i have no idea what that means honestly
[3:49:43 PM] Studstill: It means
[3:49:48 PM] Studstill: you run immediately
[3:49:58 PM] Studstill: If you look at the game
[3:50:07 PM] Studstill: most things have about a 3 frame window for input
[3:50:10 PM] Dan Hoyt: you know the floppy part on the 64 stick?
[3:50:13 PM] Dan Hoyt: that's deadzone rofl
[3:50:20 PM] Studstill: Smashes for example
[3:51:03 PM] Studstill: These % figures are from memory so I`m fudging them but they are accurate enough for these purposes
[3:51:12 PM] Studstill: To do an F smash
[3:51:23 PM] Lord Starwhal: the thingie in the middle?
[3:51:56 PM] Studstill: you move from 0-15% to 66%+ in one frame: Fsmash.
You do it in 2 frames, F smash.
you do it in 3 frames: F smash.
[3:52:40 PM] Studstill: If your range is up, you basically get an immediate one frame Smash attack
[3:52:59 PM] Studstill: without having to physically move the joystick that far within one frame.
[3:53:07 PM] Studstill: You can move and do moves literally faster.
[3:53:19 PM] Studstill: On deadzone, ya Dan rofl
[3:53:20 PM] Studstill: NTA
[3:53:32 PM] Lord Starwhal: is that why you have the move the stick harder when the range is lower?
[3:53:43 PM] Studstill: By harder you mean faster and yes.
[3:54:15 PM] Studstill: But Dan is on the same point as me, which is there should be only ONE range setting, the OG N64 one.
[3:54:21 PM] Studstill: And all other controllers need to be tested
[3:54:40 PM] Studstill: to determine what range setting for them is most like that of the 64.
[3:55:01 PM] Studstill: I believe that`s what he means by 'regulation'
[3:55:12 PM] Studstill: KB is right the **** out though, IMO.
[3:55:20 PM] Lord Starwhal: pwned
[3:55:25 PM] Studstill: I don`t even see any argumnet there.
[3:55:28 PM] Dan Hoyt: kb is an interesting one
[3:55:55 PM] Studstill: Because its so obviously not a variable input?
[3:56:01 PM] Studstill: I.e. joystick.
[3:56:02 PM] Lord Starwhal: how was your experience with the keyboard at that tournament
[3:57:06 PM] Studstill: Dan, NTA, I think this is good convo and am too lazy to cut paste, any objections to me bulk pasting it to SB?
[3:57:28 PM] Lord Starwhal: ok sure
[3:59:07 PM] Dan Hoyt: idc
[3:59:27 PM] Lord Starwhal: (heart)

This post is weird. Keyboards, 360 controllers, shouldn't be compared to steroids in a boxing match.
Sure, keyboard has RIDICULOUS DI, but did you forget how we have to buffer for tilt moves? How shorthopping is alot harder? There are alot of pros and cons with keyboard that I think really balances it out.

Idk.

 

[The Star King]

I agree that any adapters should only have the most range equivalent to that of an official n64 controller, AKA The Hori.

I believe Sangoku has shown that greater range past a certain minimum does not affect DI.

 

[Studstill]

We`ll I hope you all enjoyed that post and my presence. I greatly enjoy discussing this game and encouraging new people to play, as well as getting the players in the weekend tournament series exposure to the larger group, perhaps Umbra can continue that, as I will be taking a sabbatical.
Despite my enjoyment of those activities and endorsement of Madao as a just and productive mod, I find myself always in a worse mood than when I opened the tab.
I have done everything the mods have asked me to do in regards to ending the un-ending harassment of me by certain users.
I`ve been informed by Madao that my posts and threads always receive multiple complaints, and this combined with the fact that every time I do post, anything, anywhere, certain people make a point of letting me know I`m a stupid ****ing idiot.
It`s been a year now, and although I really do treasure meeting all of you and befriending most, that I just don`t want to have to weather this negative **** in my life anymore. The world is a harsh place and SSB64 I have always held sacrosanct above all other things, an unsullied area of pure joy in my life. I have received this unchecked abuse for too long and it has taken a toll by defiling this most awesome place of pure love I have for this game.
I`m not self-banning, and I`m sure I won`t be able to resist the urge to pop in every now and again, but I am silencing myself.
Or rather, I feel with trolls making sure they let everyone know I`m a ****ing stupid idiot after every post I make and now the moderator telling me that I don`t know how to title threads or make posts, much like the controller post above or the few community polls I wrote:
I`ll take the hint.

Play with honor, play with skill.
Be well, my friends.

 

[caneut]

inb4 stud quits smashboards like rob quit smash

 

[UNKN{OWN}iXi]

Not all wooden bats are the same in professional baseball, just saying. Different wood, different sizes, different weight, etc.

Corking the bat is cheating (filling a wooden bat with cork or another dense, but light substance to maintain power in the bat but allow you to swing it faster), similar to how using button mods like rapid fire on controllers or the keyboard DI examples mentioned above are cheating (using a suped up KB for extra DI? lol.).

It was a good analogy boom.

 

[Kahnu]

We`ll I hope you all enjoyed that post and my presence. I greatly enjoy discussing this game and encouraging new people to play, as well as getting the players in the weekend tournament series exposure to the larger group, perhaps Umbra can continue that, as I will be taking a sabbatical.
Despite my enjoyment of those activities and endorsement of Madao as a just and productive mod, I find myself always in a worse mood than when I opened the tab.
I have done everything the mods have asked me to do in regards to ending the un-ending harassment of me by certain users.
I`ve been informed by Madao that my posts and threads always receive multiple complaints, and this combined with the fact that every time I do post, anything, anywhere, certain people make a point of letting me know I`m a stupid ****ing idiot.
It`s been a year now, and although I really do treasure meeting all of you and befriending most, that I just don`t want to have to weather this negative **** in my life anymore. The world is a harsh place and SSB64 I have always held sacrosanct above all other things, an unsullied area of pure joy in my life. I have received this unchecked abuse for too long and it has taken a toll by defiling this most awesome place of pure love I have for this game.
I`m not self-banning, and I`m sure I won`t be able to resist the urge to pop in every now and again, but I am silencing myself.
Or rather, I feel with trolls making sure they let everyone know I`m a ****ing stupid idiot after every post I make and now the moderator telling me that I don`t know how to title threads or make posts, much like the controller post above or the few community polls I wrote:
I`ll take the hint.

Play with honor, play with skill.
Be well, my friends.

its not our fault youre a ****head and cant follow the rules

 

[Sedda]

lightsaber analogy wouldve been better

but that's just me

 

[Saltsizzle]

its not our fault youre a ****head and cant follow the rules

Way to prove his point and make this community look even more toxic.

 

[yOLORIN]

Yeah Kahnu read through all your posts, you're quite an abrasive little **** head. At first i just thought it was just you being young and silly but i am starting to realize it's probably something a bit more severe. Try to think a bit more before you continue to post the toxic sludge that everyone has become accustomed to.

 

[BananaBolts]

Seriously, Kahnu. Your hateful and abrasive posts aren't welcome here. Stop looking for conflict everywhere you go. By the way, when you speak to new players on this forum, do so respectfully. It infuriates me that almost every new player coming here is subjected to your bad attitude and abrasive comments. Either start posting like a respectful human being or stop posting.

It would help if more of you veterans would start answering people's questions because a lot of you have a great deal of experience that is immensely helpful to us newer players. Sure, I can spend a hours trying to figure something out but why should I if you already know the answer? What if you just didn't tell new players about z cancelling? It's not exactly intuitive and it's vital information to jump start someone's gameplay.

I really don't care how good of a player you are, just facilitate growth in the community.

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

I feel like there is a lot of great strategies competitive smash 64 players can come up with for speedruns(the best smash 64 runner is a 64 comp. player). Is there any interest in having an open continuous conversation between speedrunners and some 64 comp. players regarding strategies used in speedruns(IRC, Skype ect.) and what would be the preferred method of communication for these talks. Thank you for your time XD

 

[caneut]

I feel like there is a lot of great strategies competitive smash 64 players can come up with for speedruns(the best smash 64 runner is a 64 comp. player). Is there any interest in having an open continuous conversation between speedrunners and some 64 comp. players regarding strategies used in speedruns(IRC, Skype ect.) and what would be the preferred method of communication for these talks. Thank you for your time XD

irc is always open and chill

its not our fault youre a ****head and cant follow the rules

stud is leaving because he is not willing to change, even after he even admits that most people have problem with his posts.

you however, and are just a bad player who makes bad posts. go back to texture swapping and pretending to mod the smash rom.

 

[Madao]

Normally I would not even bother replying to these kind of posts but this is unacceptable.

We`ll I hope you all enjoyed that post and my presence. I greatly enjoy discussing this game and encouraging new people to play, as well as getting the players in the weekend tournament series exposure to the larger group, perhaps Umbra can continue that, as I will be taking a sabbatical.
Despite my enjoyment of those activities and endorsement of Madao as a just and productive mod, I find myself always in a worse mood than when I opened the tab.
I have done everything the mods have asked me to do in regards to ending the un-ending harassment of me by certain users.
I`ve been informed by Madao that my posts and threads always receive multiple complaints, and this combined with the fact that every time I do post, anything, anywhere, certain people make a point of letting me know I`m a stupid ****ing idiot.
It`s been a year now, and although I really do treasure meeting all of you and befriending most, that I just don`t want to have to weather this negative **** in my life anymore. The world is a harsh place and SSB64 I have always held sacrosanct above all other things, an unsullied area of pure joy in my life. I have received this unchecked abuse for too long and it has taken a toll by defiling this most awesome place of pure love I have for this game.
I`m not self-banning, and I`m sure I won`t be able to resist the urge to pop in every now and again, but I am silencing myself.
Or rather, I feel with trolls making sure they let everyone know I`m a ****ing stupid idiot after every post I make and now the moderator telling me that I don`t know how to title threads or make posts, much like the controller post above or the few community polls I wrote:
I`ll take the hint.

Play with honor, play with skill.
Be well, my friends.

I never specifically said those things. I'd appreciate it if you would be more honest. Also you need to take responsibility for your own actions instead of putting 100% of the blame on everyone else. I am honestly disappointed that you resorted to telling lies about what I did and said.

@ the rest of you guys, don't worry about @ Kahnu .

 

[Kahnu]

LOL
the butthurt nerds

studstill FAILS to follow the rules 100% of the time, its his fault for being a stupid ****ing moron who cant follow the SIMPLEST of rules when its been told TIME AFTER TIME to him

so he decides hes going to leave is perfectly acceptable
he would've gotten banned sooner or later because of his incapability to follow the SIMPLEST OF DIRECTIONS

Seriously, Kahnu. Your hateful and abrasive posts aren't welcome here. Stop looking for conflict everywhere you go. By the way, when you speak to new players on this forum, do so respectfully. It infuriates me that almost every new player coming here is subjected to your bad attitude and abrasive comments. Either start posting like a respectful human being or stop posting.

It's not even ****ing new players, lol. It's either people from Melee or Smash 4 confusing the 64 boards for their boards, or just COMPLETE casuals who think our game is deserted and is a relic of the past. When ACTUAL people who WANT to play 64 competetively I treat them like a normal, human being. But when you're an ignorant asshole I'm going to be a ****head to you.



Not even going to reply to the other posts.




also, I love how everybody just jumps at me while the real thing is about Madao and Studstill, and nobody had Madao's back

nah gg

 

[BananaBolts]

Even when new players (or Sm4sh players) get confused, kindly direct them in the right direction. Even if these people are "casuals" you can still be a respectable member of the community and help out. There's no point in barking at people for getting confused, asking questions w/ obvious answers, or being generally misinformed. Your abrasive comments are not helpful, period.

Anyways, if you actually put some effort into helping a lot of these guys, then you could be a really productive member of these forums. You have enough enthusiasm and passion to become a great smasher / forum member but you are directing all of your energy/attention in the wrong direction. As it currently stands, you aren't doing anything positive for this community by being a "****head" to the ignorant populous.

 

[caneut]

LOL
the butthurt nerds

studstill FAILS to follow the rules 100% of the time, its his fault for being a stupid ****ing moron who cant follow the SIMPLEST of rules when its been told TIME AFTER TIME to him

so he decides hes going to leave is perfectly acceptable
he would've gotten banned sooner or later because of his incapability to follow the SIMPLEST OF DIRECTIONS



It's not even ****ing new players, lol. It's either people from Melee or Smash 4 confusing the 64 boards for their boards, or just COMPLETE casuals who think our game is deserted and is a relic of the past. When ACTUAL people who WANT to play 64 competetively I treat them like a normal, human being. But when you're an ignorant ******* I'm going to be a ****head to you.



Not even going to reply to the other posts.




also, I love how everybody just jumps at me while the real thing is about Madao and Studstill, and nobody had Madao's back

nah gg

you were a melee player before joining us. did you get confused?

 

[Studstill]

I do not lie.
Bolding has been done by me, not by Madao.

I never specifically said those things. I'd appreciate it if you would be more honest. I am honestly disappointed that you resorted to telling lies about what I did and said.

I have done everything the mods have asked me to do in regards to ending the un-ending harassment of me by certain users.

Obviously I haven`t interacted with caneut at all since my unbanning. Except one comment in which another user was experiencing his abuse, TechnicalKnockout or William, I cant find it for proof, sorry.

I`ve been informed by Madao that my posts and threads always receive multiple complaints,

Also, as usual, I saw a complaint about your thread.

I think it's obvious who complains about your threads. I don't need to name them.

now the moderator telling me that I don`t know how to title threads or make posts, much like the controller post above or the few community polls.

First of all, you need to choose better thread titles. Sorry, but a thread that just has copy pasted chat logs is not a good one.

Like I said, firstly, you need to pick better thread titles. Secondly, I don't think the OP should just be a copy pasta of a discussion from somewhere else.

Nothing wrong with the content of the post, other than maybe the steroid talk. It just wasn't good thread material.

 

[Madao]

This got out of hand.

Sometimes I agree with some of the criticisms by certain people, but they should say it nicer. I don't think you guys should single Kahnu out though. Especially when there are other people causing problems including some of the people he flames. This seems like a vicious cycle.

Kahnu certainly doesn't like being singled out, neither do I. Singling people out, when they are not solely to blame, only makes the situation worse. It's not good to anger people who are already angry. Try to be fair guys. I'd appreciate it as well if certain individuals would stop enticing others to flame them. Some people have a short fuse, and I think it's bad how some people try and actually exploit that.

Also if you solely focus on one person while ignoring the problems caused by others, the problem will never get solved.

@ S Studstill , why are you posting PM's in social thread? I could easily prove a point if I did the same thing against you, but I know better than that.

 

[Kahnu]

I do not lie.

I have done everything the mods have asked me to do in regards to ending the un-ending harassment of me by certain users.

yeah? like breaking the rules in almost every post you make including threads, double posting, or just spam?
sure