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[AugustusB]

Why do people want Sans over Frisk? Just an honest question.

I think, personally, it has to do with popularity. The character was an instant hit around the world. You don't see that too much in Indie games now a days where a character just 'clicks'.

I wouldn't mind Frisk at all. I think they could have an interesting moveset to pool from. (All the weapons you pick could help. Ballet shoes for kicks!? Awesome.)

 

[TheCJBrine]

I’d assume it is because him and Papyrus are basically Undertale’s mascot. Why they don’t want them as a duo character is beyond me.

I'd actually love if Sans & Papyrus were a duo character, though I'd be fine with just one of them.

I think it'd work by having Papyrus be whom you play as, but Sans stands off to the side like Pokemon Trainer, encouraging Papyrus and helping him with some attacks (without letting him know) + his Final Smash.

I'd also like Frisk, though, especially if they have a Chara alt. Sans & Papyrus are my favorite Undertale characters, though, but I really like the others as well. I guess Chara is also a favorite, as my headcanon is the Narrator Theory (though I guess that's basically real due to a bit of Genocide Route dialogue from the narrator + some Pacifist Route narrator dialogue fitting with events regarding Chara and Asriel, and killing just one monster makes them go from "it's half-full" to "it's half-empty.") + Chara could've been good but driven mad by something causing them to hate people, and driven mad by the player if you go the Genocide Route.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

The fact that Banjo is among the FP characters makes me think that this isn't meant to be taken as seriously as some people think it is. Most of Banjo's fans would already be into Nintendo and wish that Banjo was still Nintendo's property, making it not such a long wait for him to get into Smash.

I agree, partially. Banjo is a product of circumstance with Microsoft, which was not quite the case when the original roster was drafted.

However, I do think fan demand is playing a part, which is why Banjo is in the Fighter pass. I don’t think that part can be denied.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Ugh don't remind me of that.

2003 turtles are still best turtles.

I'm also down for that idea. Cancel Spongebob and simply have him as their mascot. Better then keeping the show going.

I prefer the 2012 show. I watched a whole season of 2003 and it just never grabbed me.

 

[Cosmic77]

Erm what about The Loud House? That show has been everywhere where I've been on the internet. Especially given its actually even getting its own movie at some point.

And probably the only decent show left on Nick at this point at least IMO.

Ehh… Loud House is okay(ish), but I think they're already digging its grave. It's got a T.V. movie, a spin-off, and two more seasons planned on top of the one that's currently airing. The overexposure is already backfiring.

Regardless, it can't compare to SpongeBob when it comes to making money. How much merch do you think that show actually gets?

Weird.

I'm not aware if there is any statement regarding King Neptune's movie redesign but I'm pretty sure it came about so as to make him blend in with the Bikini Bottomites (including Mermaid Man and Barnicle Boy) and the art style better so going back to the pre-movie sort of comic book-esque proportioned design didn't make any sense.

I don't care that much about why they did it. I just want to know why they didn't stick with the new version. Mindy was well-received, but then they threw her aside and made Triton for no apparent reason.

 

[Deleted member]

Trying to model and I have some Looney Toons lookin' crap.

Any advice on this?

Spoiler: Porky Pig /s

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

To not talk about Smash for a comment at least, we used our new grill for the first time today for some hot dogs and burgers. They were awesome. I’m pretty much trash at cooking, so being able to not **** up the grill is good enough for me.

Also, I just finished my 100th victory without running out of stocks in normal mode of the Mario Maker 2 endless challenge, so that’s pretty cool too.

Probably playing Chrono Trigger next. But if Hero drops this week I’m totally making a lobby and we’re smashing.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

To not talk about Smash for a comment at least, we used our new grill for the first time today for some hot dogs and burgers. They were awesome. I’m pretty much trash at cooking, so being able to not **** up the grill is good enough for me.

Also, I just finished my 100th victory without running out of stocks in normal mode of the Mario Maker 2 endless challenge, so that’s pretty cool too.

Probably playing Chrono Trigger next. But if Hero drops this week I’m totally making a lobby and we’re smashing.

Be sure to tag me if that arena does go up.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

but I think they're already digging its grave.

Right and as if Spongebob already hasn't for 20 years with 10 seasons, 3 movies and a spin-off...The series is pretty much a horse skeleton at this point. Should of had it ended as originally back in 2004.

This, Family Guy, Simpsons. There's a time in a place when a series should just end. These three are among them.

I mean as Snake said. They can cancel Spongebob yet keep him as their mascot (Maybe at most even with shorts from time to time) like Disney does with Mickey and I'm sure that alone would keep them going.

Compared to Spongebob. The Loud House still has more going for it.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

The box might be the biggest promotional fail in Smash history. They clearly spaced it out so there could only be an echo fighter in between Palutena and Cloud and left one space on the other side, and without the obligatory Pokemon newcomer in the game yet, you could put the pieces together even without Vergeben's leak.

Good thing Sakurai left a surprise for us!

Yet a lot of people didn’t believe it and hurled many choice words those who saw the very clear writing on the wall.

“Tha game’s not out for another three months! The open spaces on it make it obvious it’s just a placeholder!”
Yeah, but an VERY deliberately designed placeholder...

 

[Arcanir]

The lack of an IP in the form of Mii Fighter outfits does not rule out Mii Costume theory. For example, thematically, Virtua Fighter could get the costumes revealed alongside a Fighting game character (for now, we’ll say Heihachi). Heihachi could get revealed after Banjo, and then have costumes from various fighting games. It’s a hypothetical, but not one that discredits Costume theory whatsoever.

But in the same vein, if the Virtua Fighter costumes are theoretically shuffled off with Heihachi then that means that the costumes don't have to be tied to their parent company's pack either, so you could theoretically see the Capcom characters then shuffled off to other packs like Mega Man's being given out with Banjo, thus hurting the theory.

The thing with the Virtua Fighter costumes not being given out immediately with SEGA is that it does lend to the possibility that things aren't going to be so straightforward for the costumes' distribution. So regardless of what happens, the VF costume's handling is something to be considered when debating the theory since if they're handled in any way that doesn't stick to the parity that the theory is asking, then it takes a huge hit.

Edit: Posted too early, edited the rest in.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Right and as if Spongebob already hasn't for 20 years with 10 seasons, 3 movies and a spin-off...The series is pretty much a horse skeleton at this point. Should of had it ended as originally back in 2004.

This, Family Guy, Simpsons. There's a time in a place when a series should just end. These three are among them.

I mean as Snake said. They can cancel Spongebob yet keep him as their mascot (Maybe at most even with shorts from time to time) like Disney does with Mickey and I'm sure that alone would keep them going.

Compared to Spongebob. The Loud House still has more going for it.

At the very least, they could just not make the spin-off that Stephen Hillenburg very clearly didn’t want.

He’s said he didn’t want spin-offs. The show goes on for almost 20 years with no spin-offs. He dies. A few months later a spin-off is announced.

Yeah that’s not suspicious at all.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

But in the same vein, if the Virtua Fighter costumes are theoretically shuffled off with Heihachi then that means that the costumes don't have to be tied to their parent company's pack either, so you could theoretically see the Capcom characters then shuffled off to other packs like Mega Man's being given out with Banjo, thus hurting the theory.

By all accounts, Joker was a rush job. A Sakurai rush job, but still a rush job. I can imagine that, combined with the two new modes they had to make, explain the relative lack of Mii Costumes that came with him. I could also see a period where we just get mii costumes with no characters. 4 had two periods like that.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

At the very least, they could just not make the spin-off that Stephen Hillenburg very clearly didn’t want.

He’s said he didn’t want spin-offs. The show goes on for almost 20 years with no spin-offs. He dies. A few months later a spin-off is announced.

Yeah that’s not suspicious at all.

Hillenburg must be rolling in his grave at this point...

Such disrespect. How could Nick do that to him especially after giving his word that he didn't want that for his series?

 

[TheCJBrine]

The series is pretty much a horse skeleton at this point.

Spoiler

Skeleton Horses are no joke.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

By all accounts, Joker was a rush job. A Sakurai rush job, but still a rush job. I can imagine that, combined with the two new modes they had to make, explain the relative lack of Mii Costumes that came with him. I could also see a period where we just get mii costumes with no characters. 4 had two periods like that.

What are we basing Joker "being a rush job" on? Because, frankly, I don't see it.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

What are we basing Joker "being a rush job" on? Because, frankly, I don't see it.

Didn't Sakurai say he finished him like, the day before he came out?

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler: #BringBackNatDex stuff. Not supporting it myself, just sharing a video, but if you’re fed up with it, I totally understand.

This is a pretty interesting video, honestly. Worth a watch if you ask me.

 

[Cosmic77]

At the very least, they could just not make the spin-off that Stephen Hillenburg very clearly didn’t want.

He’s said he didn’t want spin-offs. The show goes on for almost 20 years with no spin-offs. He dies. A few months later a spin-off is announced.

Yeah that’s not suspicious at all.

The spin-off was a cheap cash-grab according to Paul Tibbitt, and the uninventive concept leads me to believe he's correct.

Regardless, I'll give them credit for at least waiting this long to do it. They're already doing a spin-off for the Loud House after only three years, and I'm sure they know they'll have full creative control since the creator was fired due to sexual harassment charges.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

But in the same vein, if the Virtua Fighter costumes are theoretically shuffled off with Heihachi then that means that the costumes don't have to be tied to their parent company's pack either, so you could theoretically see the Capcom characters then shuffled off to other packs like Mega Man's being given out with Banjo, thus hurting the theory.

Exactly.

It’s not an ironclad idea, and I’m not even entirely convinced of it myself. But that’s how “theories” go. It’s based on what we see, and can justify, so if it changes or isn’t consistent the theory is either proven or disproven.

I think what the Smash community goes with when it comes to theories is “If that’s such a great theory, then why does it not work if X gets revealed with Y?”

Simple. It doesn’t work.

As I said, Mii Costume Theory will be either bolstered or crapped on this week or whenever Hero ends up getting his “mini-direct”. I’m excited either way because it’s bound to give us an idea of what can be expected going forward...or if all options are on the table.

 

[AugustusB]

Didn't Sakurai say he finished him like, the day before he came out?

No I do not think so. People just saw that Joker had similar moves compared to others and they concluded that he was 'rushed'.

Plus, would Sakurai come out and say "Oh yeah I only spent 5 hours on making that character!"

 

[StormC]

Hillenburg must be rolling in his grave at this point...

Such disrespect. How could Nick do that to him especially after giving his word that he didn't want that for his series?

Capitalism will always win out against artistic integrity.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Spoiler: #BringBackNatDex stuff. Not supporting it myself, just sharing a video, but if you’re fed up with it, I totally understand.

This is a pretty interesting video, honestly. Worth a watch if you ask me.

I saw that.

I personally don't like how they ignore Wingull's Pokedex entries and its actual animation where it moves its wings. Wingull can't flap its wings very well, and relies on air currents. It already flaps its wings sometimes without the bendy joint.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Didn't Sakurai say he finished him like, the day before he came out?

I'm unaware of anything that Sakurai has said regarding Joker that would imply him being a rushed job. Some people paraded around the "similar animations" stuff because they hated Joker and wanted to show uninspired he was or whatever... but that's really been it as far as I'm aware.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Didn't Sakurai say he finished him like, the day before he came out?

Finishing him a day before he came out is completely different than “I rushed the last day.”

 

[Icedragonadam]

It's not a crazy idea to think that not all of the 3rd party costumes are coming back. More than likely, the ones that didn't sell well aren't coming back and I presume the Virtua Fighter costumes was among those, considering it's in Sega's forgotten IPs section. Sonic is Sega's flagship franchise so it would be no brainer that the Tails and Knuckles mii costume would sell much much better than them. So I think the costumes from obscure or very niche franchises are probably not coming back, like Gil.

 

[Deleted member]

I saw that.

I personally don't like how they ignore Wingull's Pokedex entries and its actual animation where it moves its wings.

Spoiler: Nat Dex

Yeah, I think they were trying to say they should up the overworld animations, but I totally agree with what your saying.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Just sitting here watching the trailer to Crawl again. Man even after seeing the movie today I still get goosebumps and thrills from watching it.

And probably will so again when I see it next week for a second time with my friend (And other friend if he can join us).

 

[Deleted member]

So, let’s start a conversation.

Actually, here’s a random question. Favorite video game voice over performance and why?

Kenny James as Bowser. I don't know how, but I feel like if I knew nothing about Bowser, I was instantly know what he's all about just by hearing his voice, and I'm pretty sure he's never even said a full, coherent sentence. Another really good one is Yuri Lownthal in Spider-Man Ps4, his Peter Parker radiates so much Spider-Man energy

 

[Deleted member]

Kenny James as Bowser. I don't know how, but I feel like if I knew nothing about Bowser, I was instantly know what he's all about just by hearing his voice, and I'm pretty sure he's never even said a full, coherent sentence. Another really good one is Yuri Lownthal in Spider-Man Ps4, his Peter Parker radiates so much Spider-Man energy

Ey, I met Kenny James yesterday at a con.

He’s super passionate about what he does. It’s awesome.

(Also, according to Kenny James Bowser has only spoken 4 words. So not a full sentence.)

 

[Cosmic77]

I saw that.

I personally don't like how they ignore Wingull's Pokedex entries and its actual animation where it moves its wings. Wingull can't flap its wings very well, and relies on air currents. It already flaps its wings sometimes without the bendy joint.

Wingull's overworld animation could've been a little more detailed, but the person who animated this didn't really prove anything. Perfecting one animation is easy. Perfecting hundreds is a whole different story.

Not bashing on what he made though. Still looks good, even if Wingull doesn't fly like that.

 

[Deleted member]

Ey, I met Kenny James yesterday at a con.

He’s super passionate about what he does. It’s awesome.

(Also, according to Kenny James Bowser has only spoken 4 words. So not a full sentence.)

The day we get another fully voiced Mario game, is the day I make any random Kenny James Bowser line my ringtone

 

[AugustusB]

Kenny James as Bowser. I don't know how, but I feel like if I knew nothing about Bowser, I was instantly know what he's all about just by hearing his voice, and I'm pretty sure he's never even said a full, coherent sentence. Another really good one is Yuri Lownthal in Spider-Man Ps4, his Peter Parker radiates so much Spider-Man energy

Yuri Lownthal doing anything is pretty great. Lets be honest.

Although, I did think of another one of my favorites.

Spoiler: Metal Gear Solid 4 Spoiler

Big Boss's talk at the end is probably up there for my all time favorites. Just his last line, smoking a cigar, after all is done and the fighting is over. "This is good...isn't it?"

 

[Deleted member]

If it’s ok, can we maybe spoiler our Nat Dex posts? Some people are tired of hearing it, and understandably so.

Wingull's overworld animation could've been a little more detailed, but the person who animated this didn't really prove anything. Perfecting one animation is easy. Perfecting hundreds is a whole different story.

Not bashing on what he made though. Still looks good, even if Wingull doesn't fly like that.

Spoiler

Amazing point. I suppose this is more a proof of concept, but that’s still a great point. Thanks for bringing it up.

 

[Deleted member]

Another one of my favorites is David Hayter as Snake. Simply iconic

 

[SnakeFighter64]

It's not a crazy idea to think that not all of the 3rd party costumes are coming back. More than likely, the ones that didn't sell well aren't coming back and I presume the Virtua Fighter costumes was among those, considering it's in Sega's forgotten IPs section. Sonic is Sega's flagship franchise so it would be no brainer that the Tails and Knuckles mii costume would sell much much better than them. So I think the costumes from obscure or very niche franchises are probably not coming back, like Gil.

Except they're already made. I doubt it takes much work to port them over. Even a small amount of sales would be a profit when you literally have to do no work.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Having actually seen some birds this summer that behaved just like Wingull near the ocean, I can't really criticize the animation Game Freak went with. I mean, it looks a little bit odd and more stiff than I would like, but again, it's surprisingly true to life (outside of the fact I wonder if the conditions of the Wild Area actually allow for flight like that, which I'm more skeptical of, but they originated in ocean heavy Hoenn, so I digress).

My biggest concerns about Pokemon graphically (not animation wise) is the pop-in and the lack of foliage in the Wild Area. Both of which will hopefully receive polish and work prior to release. The pop-in of regular old trainers was super jarring though and does take me out of the game, so I really hope that gets the focus.

 

[Deleted member]

Day 165 of asking for a next gen Ice Climbers game

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Having actually seen some birds this summer that behaved just like Wingull near the ocean, I can't really criticize the animation Game Freak went with. I mean, it looks a little bit odd and more stiff than I would like, but again, it's surprisingly true to life (outside of the fact I wonder if the conditions of the Wild Area actually allow for flight like that, which I'm more skeptical of, but they originated in ocean heavy Hoenn, so I digress).

My biggest concerns about Pokemon graphically (not animation wise) is the pop-in and the lack of foliage in the Wild Area. Both of which will hopefully receive polish and work prior to release. The pop-in of regular old trainers was super jarring though and does take me out of the game, so I really hope that gets the focus.

Yeah. I was watching some birds fly by a while back, and they actually keep their wings flat out for a surprisingly long time before flapping again.

 

[Deleted member]

Another amazing, heart wrenching voice performance is 163027r7210eh as Mr. Game And Watch