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[Cosmic77]

Mindy from the first SpongeBob Movie debuted in the T.V. series and now I'm ten times more confused as to who the real King Neptune is supposed to be.

 

[Deleted member]

Got a fun little game for y'all.

Which of these two do you think is the more likely? Once you guys give out your pick I'll rally up the votes and compare them.

1. #74: Lloyd Irving and #75: Resident Evil rep (Jill or Leon)

or

2. #74: Lloyd Irving and #75: Crash Bandicoot

In all honesty, I think neither sets are likely. I'm still on the thought train that the last two are Nintendo-owned properties. Zelda could use another non-echo rep and despite already having a lot of them, I could really see either the second to last character being a Fire Emblem: 3 Houses character or a Sword/Shield pokemon.

But, if absolutely forced to choose, then I'd say probably Lloyd & Jill/Leon. Crash would be nicer and appeal to more people, but remember how long it took Sony to finally agree some cross-platform play? Even after Nintendo and Microsoft joined hands and invited Sony, they still said No. I don't think they'd play ball since there's nothing in it for them. Assuming it were the second to last DLC character to drop, that still puts it around November/December; no way near any kind of release for Sony to at least promote at the time. I don't think they'd agree. People shouting and begging mean nothing (especially when they know it's just a loud minority).

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Mindy from the first SpongeBob Movie debuted in the T.V. series and now I'm ten times more confused as to who the real King Neptune is supposed to be.

Lets be real. Any cartoons with no storylines to it never tends to be consistent. Simpsons and Family Guy are notable examples of this.

 

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Saw this on Twitter and thought it was pretty cool. Someone is using Ultimate to recreate the original Melee Character Introduction Movie:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdewf716JK3-GLmfERlRGww/videos

Poor is the last one.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

but remember how long it took Sony to finally agree some cross-platform play? Even after Nintendo and Microsoft joined hands and invited Sony, they still said No. I don't think they'd play ball since there's nothing in it for them.

Except Crash is no longer owned by Sony. Hasn't been for nearly 20 years now.

 

[Deleted member]

Except Crash is no longer owned by Sony. Hasn't been for nearly 20 years now.

I suppose. Sony originally bought the character from Naughty Dog because it quickly became their mascot. I wasn't aware they gave up the rights to him.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Lets be real. Any cartoons with no storylines to it never tends to be consistent. Simpsons and Family Guy are notable examples of this.

Well, it tends to keep some consistency, via episode order, but it's very loose. Call-backs from previous episodes happen from time to time.

But they're clearly made to be nice and loose so they don't have to worry about major storyline factors, as you noted. Another show to do that is Sonic Boom, though the second season was far more consistent, as it allows for two-parters and more silly storylines. Many return for later episodes, and most are introduced directly to the audience, so the episode order matters. For instance, Sonic's crew get a unique set of robotic variants for a city. This has no relation to Metal Sonic at all, who has a different personality altogether. The robotic duplicates return for another storyline.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I wasn't aware they gave up the rights to him.

Ya got some catching up to do.

 

[N3ON]

I suppose. Sony originally bought the character from Naughty Dog because it quickly became their mascot. I wasn't aware they gave up the rights to him.

Crash has already made three appearances on the Switch. That's more than most characters on the roster...

 

[Deleted member]

I heard that there’s actual development behind each Bikini Bottom citizen present in Spongebob at any form.

And with that I mean names, backstories, characters traits and even consistency between each single one of them.

So if that is true, I could see why people would bother so much about the King Neptune thing.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Spongebob is one of those franchises that just desperately needs to end alongside Simpsons and Family Guy. All long overdue.

Sadly it was going to after the first movie and season 4 but due to ratings they decided to keep it going until milking out the franchise dry and on the levels of mean-spirited nature on par of modern Family Guy. I honestly don't get how any people has appeal to that kind of stuff especially given episodes like A Pal for Gary and One Course Meal (Who in their right mind thought these episodes would appeal to people?).

 

[Deleted member]

Spongebob is one of those franchises that just desperately needs to end alongside Simpsons and Family Guy. All long overdue.

Sadly it was going to after the first movie and season 4 but due to ratings they decided to keep it going until milking out the franchise dry and on the levels of mean-spirited humor on par of modern Family Guy. I honestly don't get how any people has appeal to that kind of stuff especially given episodes like A Pal for Gary and One Course Meal (Who in their right mind thought these episodes would appeal to people?).

Because the show actually started to get back on foot with season 10.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Because the show actually started to get back on foot with season 10.

To each their own then but I still feel the show is long overdue to end. I feel its gone on for too long IMO and that the first movie would had ended the series perfectly.

Sometimes quality is better then quantity as HTTYD and Regular Show has shown as well as the other 90's Nick shows where they are especially The Angry Beavers, my favorite childhood cartoon.

That's just me though I guess.

 

[Alternis]

Saw this on Twitter and thought it was pretty cool. Someone is using Ultimate to recreate the original Melee Character Introduction Movie:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdewf716JK3-GLmfERlRGww/videos

Poor is the last one.

Well that was an sudden blast of nostalgia. Haven't seen those in ages but I knew what each little section was going to be. Cool stuff!

 

[Deleted member]

To each their own then but I still feel the show is long overdue to end. I feel its gone on for too long IMO and that the first movie would had ended the series perfectly. That's just me though.

The best ending for me would have been the Super Shell episode actually.

With Squidward having the best moment of his life, succeeding over his rival and Spongebob actually being part of the reason it finally happened.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

While there are absolutely 1st party picks I would like in Smash or could see, it seems counterproductive to add more 1st party characters if the idea is to appeal to more new fans that aren’t already into Smash and Nintendo.

Chances are there are more fans of Bethesda who don’t own a Switch than, say, Fire Emblem. You could add Edelgard, and she’d sell no doubt about it. But adding Doomguy...brings in the overall bombshell of “Holy **** the meme is real”, and it mobilizes players who don’t own a Switch, Smash, and can potentially lead to those players trying out other series from Ninty.

At least, that makes me think 1st parties aren’t all that likely, especially when we have 3 Third party characters (with one being a spiritual 1st party).

Considering the crossover element, while it’s frankly irrelevant, I just feel that 1st parties are best in the base roster, mainly because that’s a better opportunity to get your Nintendo fans interested and into buying the game.

Plus 3rd party companies likely are able to get more direct profits from a DLC pick as opposed to have a slice of the Smash base pie.

Or I have no idea what I’m talking about.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I could really see either the second to last character being a Fire Emblem: 3 Houses character

Also given the backlashgave due to "Too many Fire Emblem characters". I think Nintendo and Sakurai would be wise not to again. Sakurai didn't even want to add Corrin but he was convinced due to how unique and different he/she was and look where that still lead to.

 

[Deleted member]

Is Travis Touchdown a 3rd party or 2nd party character?

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Already tired of dealing with the new Music Theory in the Geno thread, so I'm back here. YouTube copyright claims being used to mean anything feels like some of the least important evidence you could be using for anything... but I digress.

As for Pokemon I hope return that currently haven't been confirmed for Sw/Sh from each generation:

Gen 1 - Arcanine
Gen 2 - Ampharos
Gen 3 - Metagross or Salamance or Aggron or Absol and if starters are allowed, please please please, Sceptile (Gen 3 gets all my nostalgia and love).
Gen 4 - Garchomp
Gen 5 - Sigilyph
Gen 6 - Aegislash (The games are literally called Sword and Shield, and Aegislash is the best Gen 6 Pokemon, so don't **** this up Game Freak).
Gen 7 - I don't know Gen 7 super well and a couple of the most interesting Pokemon are already in from it, so Lycanroc for those who like them.

 

[Deleted member]

Is Travis Touchdown a 3rd party or 2nd party character?

Travis is 3rd party, but that reminds me. Can he be considered an indie character?

 

[MainJPW]

Mindy from the first SpongeBob Movie debuted in the T.V. series and now I'm ten times more confused as to who the real King Neptune is supposed to be.

She did? Does she have her movie design?

 

[Deleted member]

So, with LEGO making stuff from Dreamworks and Illumination soon...

...Could we get LEGO sets based on Shrek, How To Train Your Dragon and the Mario movie?

 

[Cosmic77]

Spongebob is one of those franchises that just desperately needs to end alongside Simpsons and Family Guy. All long overdue.

Sadly it was going to after the first movie and season 4 but due to ratings they decided to keep it going until milking out the franchise dry and on the levels of mean-spirited nature on par of modern Family Guy. I honestly don't get how any people has appeal to that kind of stuff especially given episodes like A Pal for Gary and One Course Meal (Who in their right mind thought these episodes would appeal to people?).

If SpongeBob ends, Nick goes down with it. It's basically the one decent cartoon they've got that's capable of selling tons of merch.

I will say though, the series is improving. It's still not great, but it's shown me enough potential for me to think it's worth keeping.

While there are absolutely 1st party picks I would like in Smash or could see, it seems counterproductive to add more 1st party characters if the idea is to appeal to more new fans that aren’t already into Smash and Nintendo.

Chances are there are more fans of Bethesda who don’t own a Switch than, say, Fire Emblem. You could add Edelgard, and she’d sell no doubt about it. But adding Doomguy...brings in the overall bombshell of “Holy **** the meme is real”, and it mobilizes players who don’t own a Switch, Smash, and can potentially lead to those players trying out other series from Ninty.

At least, that makes me think 1st parties aren’t all that likely, especially when we have 3 Third party characters (with one being a spiritual 1st party).

Considering the crossover element, while it’s frankly irrelevant, I just feel that 1st parties are best in the base roster, mainly because that’s a better opportunity to get your Nintendo fans interested and into buying the game.

Plus 3rd party companies likely are able to get more direct profits from a DLC pick as opposed to have a slice of the Smash base pie.

Or I have no idea what I’m talking about.

Personally, I think it depends on the character. Someone widely known like Crash or Steve might cause a buzz, but I can't see Lloyd Irving getting a warm welcome from casuals. In a case like that, I think we'd better off just adding another Pokémon or something.

We've already discussed this though, so I'll just agree to disagree.

Also given the backlashgave due to "Too many Fire Emblem characters". I think Nintendo and Sakurai would be wise not to again. Sakurai didn't even want to add Corrin but he was convinced due to how unique and different he/she was and look where that still lead to.

I'm not ruling it out, but another FE character wouldn't be wise, regardless of how unique they'd be. Not only are fans not requesting one, but they've also made it clear that they don't really want another one.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

So who do you think the indie rep should be if there were a 6th smash bros?

It could be either Sans or Shantae honestly. Not betting on Quote since Nintendo doesn’t have much of a relationship with the game, and I’m not really considering Sans since he wouldn’t be able to represent Undertale well enough, unless Sakurai pulls off some of that Sakurai magic crap.

 

[Cosmic77]

She did? Does she have her movie design?

She's exactly the same. Pink shirt, glasses, and the small bow in her hair.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If SpongeBob ends, Nick goes down with it. It's basically the one decent cartoon they've got that's capable of selling tons of merch.

I will say though, the series is improving. It's still not great, but it's shown me enough potential for me to think it's worth keeping.

Erm what about The Loud House? That show has been everywhere where I've been on the internet. Especially given its actually even getting its own movie at some point.

And probably the only decent show left on Nick at this point at least IMO.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

That’s not what Mii Costume theory is though. It has nothing to do with all old costumes coming back but, thematically, costumes from those companies being brought back in any capacity.

Basically, if the only costumes in the Hero Mini-Direct come from Square Enix and not from Capcom or Namco. That’s Mii Costume Theory. That is what happened with the Joker Direct. All properties in the Mii section came from Atlus, which is effectively from SEGA, as Atlus is owned by SEGA.

But the Virtua Fighter costumes already exist. And Akira Yuki is an Assist Tropy and Spirit, so Sakurai has permission to use the licence. I see no reason why they can't come back. Which means they're definatley coming later. Which means costume theory can't be true.

Plus, I doubt this is how the characters were actually selected. There's no way Nintendo was like "we need one for each company that had mii fighter costumes in the last game so we can re-sell them". Especially since that's not how it worked at all in 4 and means we would not get any new Nintendo themed costumes or Konami themed costumes.

 

[Deleted member]

So, with LEGO making stuff from Dreamworks and Illumination soon...

...Could we get LEGO sets based on Shrek, How To Train Your Dragon and the Mario movie?

I strongly doubt that’d happen, but I’d have nothing against seeing it, myself.

 

[Guynamednelson]

if the idea is to appeal to more new fans that aren’t already into Smash and Nintendo.

The fact that Banjo is among the FP characters makes me think that this isn't meant to be taken as seriously as some people think it is. Most of Banjo's fans would already be into Nintendo and wish that Banjo was still Nintendo's property, making it not such a long wait for him to get into Smash.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

Spongebob is one of those franchises that just desperately needs to end alongside Simpsons and Family Guy. All long overdue.

Sadly it was going to after the first movie and season 4 but due to ratings they decided to keep it going until milking out the franchise dry and on the levels of mean-spirited nature on par of modern Family Guy. I honestly don't get how any people has appeal to that kind of stuff especially given episodes like A Pal for Gary and One Course Meal (Who in their right mind thought these episodes would appeal to people?).

I wholeheartedly agree. Even among the newer seasons, the quality is inconsistent. They're just out of ideas, and Nick's time would be much better spent developing brand new series.

And Kamp Koral becoming a thing is just a punch to the face.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Erm what about The Loud House? That show has been everywhere where I've been on the internet.

And probably the only decent show left on Nick at this point at least IMO.

Not to mentinon they own the Ninja Turtles. Which is a pretty ever-green IP. Even is rise is pretty bleh.

In my opinion though, SpongeBob is at the point where he could have his show cancelled and they could keep him as the mascot of their brand the was Mikey Mouse is used. Mickey doesn't need to always have a TV show to be recognized and relevant. He's just too iconic. Plus, they can also make spinoffs.

 

[Gentlepanda]

august 7th, fellas

august 7th

 

[Deleted member]

Why do people want Sans over Frisk? Just an honest question.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

august 7th, fellas

august 7th

What's happening then? I still think he's gonna happen this week. Japanese summer vacation.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

And Kamp Koral becoming a thing is just a punch to the face.

Ugh I agree. God let the series die already. Hasn't it been dragged through the mud enough already?

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Why do people want Sans over Frisk? Just an honest question.

I’d assume it is because him and Papyrus are basically Undertale’s mascot. Why they don’t want them as a duo character is beyond me.

 

[BlueMonk]

Why do people want Sans over Frisk? Just an honest question.

because sans is the funny skeleton

frisk is just some kid

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Not to mentinon they own the Ninja Turtles. Which is a pretty ever-green IP. Even is rise is pretty bleh.

In my opinion though, SpongeBob is at the point where he could have his show cancelled and they could keep him as the mascot of their brand the was Mikey Mouse is used. Mickey doesn't need to always have a TV show to be recognized and relevant. He's just too iconic. Plus, they can also make spinoffs.

Ugh don't remind me of that.

2003 turtles are still best turtles.

I'm also down for that idea. Cancel Spongebob and simply have him as their mascot. Better then keeping the show going.

 

[MainJPW]

She's exactly the same. Pink shirt, glasses, and the small bow in her hair.

Weird.

I'm not aware if there is any statement regarding King Neptune's movie redesign but I'm pretty sure it came about so as to make him blend in with the Bikini Bottomites (including Mermaid Man and Barnicle Boy) and the art style better so going back to the pre-movie sort of comic book-esque proportioned design didn't make any sense.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

But the Virtua Fighter costumes already exist. And Akira Yuki is an Assist Tropy and Spirit, so Sakurai has permission to use the licence. I see no reason why they can't come back. Which means they're definatley coming later. Which means costume theory can't be true.

Plus, I doubt this is how the characters were actually selected. There's no way Nintendo was like "we need one for each company that had mii fighter costumes in the last game so we can re-sell them". Especially since that's not how it worked at all in 4 and means we would not get any new Nintendo themed costumes or Konami themed costumes.

Again, that’s not Mii Costume theory. It’s the other way around, as in, the marketing was decided after the characters.

They may have had the license to create the Virtua Fighter costumes, but from what I’ve heard they weren’t very high sellers. To that end, why spend time and money making a product that won’t sell much, especially when one of the characters is already an Assist Trophy?

The lack of an IP in the form of Mii Fighter outfits does not rule out Mii Costume theory. For example, thematically, Virtua Fighter could get the costumes revealed alongside a Fighting game character (for now, we’ll say Heihachi). Heihachi could get revealed after Banjo, and then have costumes from various fighting games. It’s a hypothetical, but not one that discredits Costume theory whatsoever.

Again, if something is missing that doesn’t discredit it. Therefore, the Virtua Fighter costumes don’t rule out Mii Costume Theory. At least not yet.