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[Z25]

what happened to Mary O.

She left to join smash

 

[Deleted member]

She left to join smash

You joke but I'd actually be fine with that
also i basically gotta go
see you guys when i can :3

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Sooooo my house was THIS close to burning down. Somehow a printed paper of a job I applied for and got rejected from ended up in the toaster oven and got somewhat charred

I’m legitimately confused how the hell did it get there???

 

[Deleted member]

>Pokemon Masters
pretty cool I guess nice to see some of the older characters coming ba-
>POKEMON COLOSSEUM IS GETTING REFERENCED AFTER 14 YEARS

 

[Z25]

Sooooo my house was THIS close to burning down. Somehow a printed paper of a job I applied for and got rejected from ended up in the toaster oven and got somewhat charred

I’m legitimately confused how the hell did it get there???

As bad as this may sound, unless your toaster is left by a stack of papers, I don’t see how it could not have been put there by anything other then a person

 

[Rie Sonomura]

As bad as this may sound, unless your toaster is left by a stack of papers, I don’t see how it could not have been put there by anything other then a person

Yes but who?? Sure wasn’t me

This has been one hell of a week

 

[Cosmic77]

Took me until now to realize we've already heard part of Zacian and Zamazenta's theme. Played right after their reveal video in the Pokemon Direct.

They're going full Scotland on this one.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Okay, so I haven't been gone long, but I wasn't aware Wii Fit Trainer actually became viable? Wtf. She was bottom tier as long as I could remember and now I'm seeing her in upper-mid to high tier placements. Did they fix the jank? Was that all it took? Gosh, I am so far behind.

But also yay for Bowser being the best heavy in the game and a potential high tier at that. He's earned the title "King of Awesome" for sure. Also happy ROB and G&W are doing well.

I also see the nerfs didn't really change too much beyond me seeing Olimar constantly having an identity crisis as people don't know if he's still top tier or simply high; and to a lesser extent, Pichu.

I just find it funny that Wolf is still good despite being the sole character constantly hit with nerfs. But resiliency is a part of his character, so I guess I should've expected that he'd always find a way to give Sakurai a middle finger for trying to weigh him down.

 

[Opossum]

I feel like the National Dex thing on social media is people being angry, with no offer of how to fix the problem.

This is similar to quite a few social media outcries.

I am disappointed by it myself, but it’s an unfortunate reality. If Game Freak plunked in the same models, same animations, and what not of all Pokémon, fans would be just as upset that Game Freak did THAT. It’s a lose lose, and fans make it that way.

I hope they update it over time. But i’m not going to harass game developers over something in a $60 game I want to play. There are students I teach whose families can’t afford a single console, let alone eat breakfast once every two days.

There are worse things going on than not having every digital monster in the world. Remember that.

Appealing to Worse Problems is a logical fallacy. There's always someone who has it worse. That doesn't invalidate the complaints.

I can guarantee you that if they used the old models and explained what would have happened if they didn't much fewer people would be upset.

If GameFreak wants to act like a faceless megacorp and not communicate with the people whose money they're taking, they should be treated the same as any other faceless megacorp.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

The special nobody wanted, and still that nobody wants.

 

[Cosmic77]

Okay, so I haven't been gone long, but I wasn't aware Wii Fit Trainer actually became viable? Wtf. She was bottom tier as long as I could remember and now I'm seeing her in upper-mid to high tier placements. Did they fix the jank? Was that all it took? Gosh, I am so far behind.

She became a lagless queen.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Z25]

Yes but who?? Sure wasn’t me

This has been one hell of a week

Well that is a mystery I can’t solve. At least your house and family are safe though

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

She became a lagless queen.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Wow. That's awesome.

From Joke to Woke.

 

[Deleted member]

The animation is done. It’s rendering now.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

I found my favorite UT comic ever. I can't stop laughing at it:

Spoiler

Like, what? xD

 

[Mythra]

The special nobody wanted, and still that nobody wants.

Their ability to give negative ****s still impresses me lmao.

 

[IsmaR]

Okay, so I haven't been gone long, but I wasn't aware Wii Fit Trainer actually became viable? Wtf. She was bottom tier as long as I could remember and now I'm seeing her in upper-mid to high tier placements. Did they fix the jank? Was that all it took? Gosh, I am so far behind.

Wii Fit Trainer was never bad. Even before the patch, WaDi was putting in work with them.

 

[BlueMonk]

Appealing to Worse Problems is a logical fallacy. There's always someone who has it worse. That doesn't invalidate the complaints.

I can guarantee you that if they used the old models and explained what would have happened if they didn't much fewer people would be upset.

If GameFreak wants to act like a faceless megacorp and not communicate with the people whose money they're taking, they should be treated the same as any other faceless megacorp.

They did explain why they did it though, it was for better animations and balance, as well as due to issues with the switch's infrastructure. Patching in pokemon later was also brought up as a possibility. But as with most explanations in regards to issues like these, people just dismissed it as BS because they'd rather get angry.

 

[Lore]

They did explain why they did it though, it was for better animations and balance, as well as due to issues with the switch's infrastructure. Patching in pokemon later was also brought up as a possibility. But as with most explanations in regards to issues like these, people just dismissed it as BS because they'd rather get angry.

The last bit, about the Switch infrastructure, is what got me on their side. They designed the models to be reusable for years and years, but the switch architecture threw that for a loop.

And with balance, I agree with them that a limited cast leads to better games. It's part of why I loved Colosseum. However, I'd vastly prefer a limited game if they also had a Battle Revolution-esque title that remains updated for all gens. That's still a lot to ask of them, to be fair, but I'd love to see it.

 

[Deleted member]

Ramen Tengoku staindgrey
I thought you would like this.

Spoiler: Huge Image

 

[Opossum]

They did explain why they did it though, it was for better animations and balance, as well as due to issues with the switch's infrastructure. Patching in pokemon later was also brought up as a possibility. But as with most explanations in regards to issues like these, people just dismissed it as BS because they'd rather get angry.

But what we've seen of the animation so far straight up isn't good, so it fell on deaf ears.

There's honestly no explanation they could give that could be satisfactory, but there would have been if they just ported the old models. People would've been more receptive to older models than not having their favorite Pokémon.

And when they can only say that they "may" add the others post launch, how is a non-promise supposed to inspire confidence?

Companies should always be held to higher standards and be put on blast if they fail to meet consumer expectations. Companies aren't your friends.

 

[Mythra]

Who would win?


A multi billion company trying to balance the game with cuts


Or


Stealth Rock

 

[Deleted member]

Have you all tried the 1.14 Combat Snapshot?
Combat is improved, but it's still flawed.
Creative is annoyingly slower, and swords are now slightly overpowered.
Still, it is a step in the right direction.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/...tom_java_edition_snapshot_to_test_new_combat/

 

[Lore]

But what we've seen of the animation so far straight up isn't good, so it fell on deaf ears.

There's honestly no explanation they could give that could be satisfactory, but there would have been if they just ported the old models. People would've been more receptive to older models than not having their favorite Pokémon.

And when they can only say that they "may" add the others post launch, how is a non-promise supposed to inspire confidence?

Companies should always be held to higher standards and be put on blast if they fail to meet consumer expectations. Companies aren't your friends.

That's the problem though, they are still using the old models even in the new title. They just aren't able to do a straight up copy/paste due to core differences between how the Switch and 3DS process things. It led to unexpected difficulties.

I do agree that it's a crappy situation, but at least they're being honest about the architecture issues.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Have you all tried the 1.14 Combat Snapshot?
Combat is improved, but it's still flawed.
Creative is much slower, and swords are now slightly overpowered.
Still, it is a step in the right direction.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/...tom_java_edition_snapshot_to_test_new_combat/

It's definitely better for PvP (if not somewhat unbalanced), though it's made PvE way too easy imo. You can stand in one spot and kill a mob in about 1 second without it touching you; it's even faster than pre-1.9.

Of course, it's an early version that's not even in the launcher by default, so I know Jens and whoever else may be working on it will continue balancing it and I'm sure it will be good for both singleplayer and multiplayer. I hope they keep shields without a delay; it allows "blockhitting," which players in servers like Hypixel were very stubborn about.

 

[Wademan94]

A lot of people have been using this gif to exaggerate how bad Sword and Shield's animations are.



People should know by that Bunnelby in the background that this isn't just Game Freak slapping Wingull in with a T-pose. That's literally how they fly.

“This bird keeps itself in the air by sheer force of anger alone.”

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I'll agree that I'd prefer a relaxed flapping too, but I don't think what they went with is bad. The Wingull still tilts and floats around while it moves, just like it did before.

As for why it's so close to the ground, I guess they couldn't think of a way for the player to engage in battle if it were any higher.

Drawing inspiration from Pokémon Black and White again, how about do what they did in Driftviel Drawbridge with Pokémon shadows. Have the flying Pokémon’s shadow be what that the player must bump into initiate battle, meanwhile the actual flying Pokémon model is high up above in the air so it looks less awkward.

Probably easier said than done, but with the vast amount of flying Pokémon, it would have done a lot to make the environments look more natural.

 

[Cosmic77]

At this point, there's really no use in debating Sword and Shield anymore. Everyone's chose a side, everyone's brought up their points, and most people have already made up their mind on what's right and what's wrong. For now, just play the waiting game and see what happens next. E3 was just a little over two weeks ago, so we've still got a ton of information and discussions lying for us in the future.

Until then, let's appreciate how promising the soundtrack is turning out so far. I'd like to think that's at least one thing both sides can agree on.

 

[Arcanir]

But what we've seen of the animation so far straight up isn't good, so it fell on deaf ears.

There's honestly no explanation they could give that could be satisfactory, but there would have been if they just ported the old models. People would've been more receptive to older models than not having their favorite Pokémon.

And when they can only say that they "may" add the others post launch, how is a non-promise supposed to inspire confidence?

Companies should always be held to higher standards and be put on blast if they fail to meet consumer expectations. Companies aren't your friends.

That begs the question though: would it have been a good idea to do that? It's easy to say 'well just port it', but the thing is we don't know how feasible for the company to do with over 900+ models even if they didn't update them for the infrastructure. On top of that, they may've had even worse presentation then what people are criticizing right now as they probably would've had even worse textures and animations.

The thing is there's likely no easy solution. Bringing back every Pokemon may still not be feasible without sacrifices that may've cost the quality of the upcoming games. It may be the same reason why other Mon franchises have similarly scaled back on their numbers (Yokai Watch) or never had all of them available in the first place (Digimon), when you're working with a lot of different models and an increasingly demanding system, something has to give and unfortunately that's just what happened here.

 

[BlueMonk]

But what we've seen of the animation so far straight up isn't good, so it fell on deaf ears.

There's honestly no explanation they could give that could be satisfactory, but there would have been if they just ported the old models. People would've been more receptive to older models than not having their favorite Pokémon.

And when they can only say that they "may" add the others post launch, how is a non-promise supposed to inspire confidence?

Companies should always be held to higher standards and be put on blast if they fail to meet consumer expectations. Companies aren't your friends.

You were arguing that they did not communicate though. They did. Just because its reasons that you don't like doesn't mean they aren't reasons. If you aren't willing to actually think about why they may have made the decision and how the reasons given might actually improve the game, that's on you. If they were to say absolutely nothing about patching pokemon, would that have been better? Its not meant to instill confidence because they aren't sure if it will happen and are being transparent about it. They've been pretty transparent about it in general, actually. Most other companies wouldn't even let this issue be known until launch. We should hold companies to high standards, but the impact of this decision on the game's quality is not objective. Less pokemon does not necessarily mean a worse game.

 

[Deleted member]

At this point, there's really no use in debating Sword and Shield anymore. Everyone's chose a side, everyone's brought up their points, and most people have already made up their mind on what's right and what's wrong. For now, just play the waiting game and see what happens next. E3 was just a little over two weeks ago, so we've still got a ton of information and discussions lying for us in the future.

Until then, let's appreciate how promising the soundtrack is turning out so far. I'd like to think that's at least one thing both sides can agree on.

I love Nessa so much.

 

[Mythra]

The best possible outcome is having another DP vs Pt situation

Diamond and Pearl are
-Laggy
-Slow af considering Pokémon take a whole second to come out of their balls
-Hilariously broken to the point you can easily access the Mystery Zone
-Awful Pokémon distribution

Platinum fixed all that **** and is completely optimized with extras that show they adapted to the DS architecture.

So this would make SwSh easily skippable while a possible 3rd version/Ultra meme title(s) potentially happening.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

“This bird keeps itself in the air by sheer force of anger alone.”

Isn't that the Cuccos?

 

[Wademan94]

Isn't that the Cuccos?

No they use their forces of anger to teleport in out of nowhere and attack whoever’s assaulting their brethren.

 

[Cosmic77]

There's multiple people in this thread defending Game Freak and their latest decisions.

...This is weird and unnatural. I'm a little scared right now.

 

[Mythra]

Collecting all Pokéman is outdated now.

Now is time to get all the waifus and husbandos.


#PokemonMasters

 

[Guynamednelson]

Collecting all Pokéman is outdated now.

Now is time to get all the waifus and husbandos.


#PokemonMasters

Catch all their alts so you can catch all the Pokemon.

THERE!

 

[Will]

haha funny story

so we just had a hella bad storm and lightning struck something near my house and now my modem is deep fried and wont turn on

literally everything else is functional but it

im typing in my car rn cause my car has sick wifi inside it for some reason

so basically im gone until i can get this fixed or get a new one

 

[Metal Shop X]

She became a lagless queen.

That's disguting.

I love it.

Also, tagging KarneraMythos , Guh-Huzzah! , @Taylor F & Dyllybirdy

Thinking I might be done with the body, but I'm not sure.

 

[Mythra]

Catch all their alts so you can catch all the Pokemon.

THERE!

>Jasmine gets added
>Somehow gets alts
>All of them use Steelix


Would whale anyway tbh