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[TheMightyP]

Never Mind, Origami King is ass

Credit goes to JJ__Frunkin on Twitter.com

 

[TheCJBrine]

tbh I know I said I'm probably not gonna get TOK, but I still want to try it; may as well just let everyone else "vote with their wallet" over Tanabe's words.

 

[Wademan94]

yo i'm interested

Oh man, I have a lot to catch you up on then.

 

[Z25]

If there really is a "Mario Quality Assurance" panel, then they are doing the absolute worst job at enforcing their own rules. Even Sticker Star had a friendly enemy (with a series record low of 1).

I think you're vastly overstating Arlo's reach.

It’s less him specifically, more that that whole thing should have shown Nintendo why the series is loved and why going back to the roots is a good thing.

I'm pretty sure that the executive meddling is stronger than all the fan support

It's mostly designs I think, look at the unique takes on Mario enemies those earlier PM and M&L installments had and how they all got removed starting from the 3DS era

This may unfortunate be true but it really shouldnt. If you listen to Your fans, you make more money, it’s that easy.

Dream Team was fine for the most part in that regard, but Paper Jam definitely broke the camels back.

God did they drop the ball to the center of the earth with that "crossover"

It’s such a missed opportunity to not have it take place in the paper Mario world partially. Should have been like Bowsers inside story. Paper Mario does stuff in the book that affects the real world or something like that.

But those glitches show it was rushed so badly.

 

[TheMightyP]

Even with all considered... this is still nothing compared to the fallout Color Splash had lol.

 

[TheCJBrine]

This may unfortunate be true but it really shouldnt. If you listen to Your fans, you make more money, it’s that easy.

The Minecraft team, Mojang Studios, is proof of this.

still please give us vertical slabs/steep stairs and double slabs someday Mojang please I beg you.

 

[Wademan94]

Speed Weed I think I’ll go through it but by bit, what would you be interested in hearing about first?

 

[Fluttershy64]

With all the Paper Mario talk, let's bring up some positivity. What is your favorite boss from the series? Mine is the Crystal King.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

Feels like to me Nintendo has stopped caring a bit about the Mario RPGs or even other spin offs like sports games.

Wish they were up in quality and made bigger jumps.

 

[Speed Weed]

Speed Weed I think I’ll go through it but by bit, what would you be interested in hearing about first?

anything goes, really

 

[TheMightyP]

While I won't deny thay companies should listen to their most vocal fans, I think it's time to hit a truth that nobody wants to admit.

Internet critisism is much smaller than we think. For every one person who complains online, there's probably 10 more who just don't care for the controversy. The Pokemon Boycott failed, TLOU2 boycott failed, and there's no way OK is gonna be impacted hard enough by this. In fact, the overall impressions of it is still positive regardless of what was said in that interview.

I'd like the series to return to it's roots as well, I still think the first 2 games haven't been outdone by the rest of the series, not by a longshot.

But truth is... we're in a minority. A vocal one, but it feels amplified to a majority because of the echos the internet has.

 

[Speed Weed]

With all the Paper Mario talk, let's bring up some positivity. What is your favorite boss from the series? Mine is the Crystal King.
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rawk hawk and the two main SPM bad guys are still some of my favorite mario characters period

 

[TheMightyP]

With all the Paper Mario talk, let's bring up some positivity. What is your favorite boss from the series? Mine is the Crystal King.
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This Chad

 

[Shroob]

While I won't deny thay companies should listen to their most vocal fans, I think it's time to hit a truth that nobody wants to admit.

Internet critisism is much smaller than we think. For every one person who complains online, there's probably 10 more who just don't care for the controversy. The Pokemon Boycott failed, TLOU2 boycott failed, and there's no way OK is gonna be impacted hard enough by this. In fact, the overall impressions of it is still positive regardless of what was said in that interview.

I'd like the series to return to it's roots as well, I still think the first 2 games haven't been outdone by the rest of the series, not by a longshot.

But truth is... we're in a minority. A vocal one, but it feels amplified to a majority because of the echos the internet has.

I mean, tbh, we knew the Pokemon boycott was going to fail going in.

We still did it, and I still personally do, to this day.



Sword/Shield just doesn't look worth dropping 60(90$) on for a game of that quality. If I have an itch to play Pokemon, I have the old ones.

 

[TheMightyP]

I mean, tbh, we knew the Pokemon boycott was going to fail going in.

We still did it, and I still personally do, to this day.



Sword/Shield just doesn't look worth dropping 60(90$) on for a game of that quality. If I have an itch to play Pokemon, I have the old ones.

I mean, people genuinelly thought buying TemTem would be a big "suck it" to Pokemon and that Pokemon would have to try now if everyone bought it.

Said thoughts ended up killing TemTem.

So I'm sure people actually thought the boycott would work.

 

[Teeb147]

Feels like to me Nintendo has stopped caring a bit about the Mario RPGs or even other spin offs like sports games.

Wish they were up in quality and made bigger jumps.

Well even just F-zero. Why didn't they keep that stuff up, it was pretty good for a racing game. I dont play racing games, but I liked fzero

 

[Wademan94]

anything goes, really

Spoiler: I’ll start out with this then

So the story revolves around Merlastra, a shaman who wants to help Mario defeat Bowser in a different way by creating obstacles and challenges for Mario to overcome and winds up joining up with Bowser to create said obstacles and help Mario defeat him, her magic sketchbook and pencil Scribble and Sketch see their user becoming obsessed and making dangerous creations and fearing her becoming lost in her goal, they decide to seek out Mario to try and stop her. An attempt to reclaim the drawing tools causes most of Scribble’s pages to get torn out and scattered, so the two decide to flee with Mario and Peach in separate locations. It’s up to Mario and Peach to travel the world to reunite and reclaim Scribble’s pages before Bowser and Merlastra claim them and use them for her twisted creations.

My goals for the fame was to the series to its traditional formula while incorporating some QOL changes but also add and better flesh out some elements from Sticker Star and Color Splash that had potential. I also have artwork of the new characters and partners I have in mind so far.

 

[Deleted member]

Technically speaking the original Paper Mario and Thousand Year Door in JP aren't even Paper Mario by name; In JP they're called "Mario Story" or smh of that sort.

So in the eyes of the JP devs they likely see the original and Thousand as a game that somehow has a cult following, with the last 3 games being what the devs wanted a Paper Mario to be. Doesn't change how the devs seem to be very limited and unable to do basic and required tasks like designing characters and being forced to just use toads and generic "haha rAndOm" characters like T A P E . Given the right tools a Paper Mario game in the modern style could harken back to it's former glory(most of the pieces are there but the games keep falling just short of the mark), but I seriously doubt that's going to happen for a long time.

 

[TheMightyP]

Feels like to me Nintendo has stopped caring a bit about the Mario RPGs or even other spin offs like sports games.

Wish they were up in quality and made bigger jumps.

Ok, I'm highlighting this because even if the future of Mario RPGs is mixed, I think we can all agree on this.

What the **** happened to the Mario Sports games? It took a nosedive fast during mid 3DS and Wii U era. Aces is an exception, but after Golf on 3DS, the rest feel like $10 cash grabs.

 

[Wademan94]

Technically speaking the original paper mario and Thousand Year Door in JP aren't even Paper Mario; They're called "Mario Story" or smh of that sort.

So in the eyes of the JP devs they likely see the original and Thousand as a game that somehow has a cult following, with the last 3 games being what the devs wanted a Paper Mario to be. Doesn't change how the devs seem to be very limited. Given the right tools a Paper Mario game in the modern style could harken back to it's former glory(most of the pieces are there but the games keep falling just short of the mark), but I seriously doubt that's going to happen for a long time.

Ehh, I still prefer the storybook aesthetic, I feel like it makes sense to be called paper from that perspective

 

[TheCJBrine]

Technically speaking the original Paper Mario and Thousand Year Door in JP aren't even Paper Mario by name; In JP they're called "Mario Story" or smh of that sort.

So in the eyes of the JP devs they likely see the original and Thousand as a game that somehow has a cult following, with the last 3 games being what the devs wanted a Paper Mario to be. Doesn't change how the devs seem to be very limited and unable to do basic and required tasks like designing characters and being forced to just use toads and generic "haha rAndOm" characters like T A P E . Given the right tools a Paper Mario game in the modern style could harken back to it's former glory(most of the pieces are there but the games keep falling just short of the mark), but I seriously doubt that's going to happen for a long time.

I think TTYD started to be called "Paper Mario RPG" in Japan if not initially on release, according to these pages:

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door

https://www.mariowiki.com/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door

Tanabe also wasn't the director for the first three games, I think.

 

[Shroob]

I mean, people genuinelly thought buying TemTem would be a big "suck it" to Pokemon and that Pokemon would have to try now if everyone bought it.

Said thoughts ended up killing TemTem.

So I'm sure people actually thought the boycott would work.

I mean, if they did, they were disillusioned as hell lol. A couple dozen, maybe hundred people online weren't going to put a dent in a multi-billion dollar company.


I just.... haven't liked what I've seen in Sword/Shield... and somehow the DLC just exemplifies my grievances further, including the leaked Crown Tundra stuff.

 

[Deleted member]

Ehh, I still prefer the storybook aesthetic, I feel like it makes sense to be called paper from that perspective

I don't disagree with that at all actually. But it definitely feels like the original and Thousand Year Door have been forgotten by the devs, and having a different JP name from the rest of the series actually explains the WHY and makes some sense.

Still feels like a slap in the face to people who want to play the older ones(without emulation you would have to buy the original hardware because of Wii VC being shutdown)

Hopefully they at least rerelease it on Switch soon. Those games are dying for ports at this point.

 

[Wario Bros.]

If we are indeed getting a Nintendo Direct Monday, Nintendo has to announce that tomorrow to seal the deal (unless they shadowdrop it like last Direct).

 

[Shroob]

If we are indeed getting a Nintendo Direct Monday, Nintendo has to announce that tomorrow to seal the deal (unless they shadowdrop it like last Direct).

Tbh, could be on Sunday. They dropped the "Mr.Sakurai presents: HERO!" announcement on a Sunday.


I can't recall the last time they dropped a Direct announcement for a general one 3 days ahead of time.

 

[TheMightyP]

I mean, if they did, they were disillusioned as hell lol. A couple dozen, maybe hundred people online weren't going to put a dent in a multi-billion dollar company.


I just.... haven't liked what I've seen in Sword/Shield... and somehow the DLC just exemplifies my grievances further, including the leaked Crown Tundra stuff.

Ironically for me, it's the DLC that makes me realize on just how half baked base SwSh is.

Doesn't even feel like it was made by the same company sometimes.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

While I won't deny thay companies should listen to their most vocal fans, I think it's time to hit a truth that nobody wants to admit.

Internet critisism is much smaller than we think. For every one person who complains online, there's probably 10 more who just don't care for the controversy. The Pokemon Boycott failed, TLOU2 boycott failed, and there's no way OK is gonna be impacted hard enough by this. In fact, the overall impressions of it is still positive regardless of what was said in that interview.

I'd like the series to return to it's roots as well, I still think the first 2 games haven't been outdone by the rest of the series, not by a longshot.

But truth is... we're in a minority. A vocal one, but it feels amplified to a majority because of the echos the internet has.

Unfortunately so. Sometimes the vocal minority don't mean when it still means wee Jake down the street and his friends of eight year olds are going to get Pokemon.

Gaming is a business after all and very few companies know where and what they want to hit exactly. Look at Falcom for example and the fact that they have been focusing on primary just two series at least the past 15 years and have a happy enough and sizeable fanbase. It's enough to keep them afloat. Same with someone like Vanillaware or Double Fine or anything of that size.

The Pokemon thing pissed me off because Nintendo and co tried to eradicate everything about it and give a corporate smile of saying "Everything is Fun! There is nothing bad here." that drives me up the ****ing wall and then some. Still wee Jake, Aidan, Bradley and co all got, bought by their mothers and to the higher ups that's all that matters.

Ok, I'm highlighting this because even if the future of Mario RPGs is mixed, I think we can all agree on this.

What the **** happened to the Mario Sports games? It took a nosedive fast during mid 3DS and Wii U era. Aces is an exception, but after Golf on 3DS, the rest feel like $10 cash grabs.

Dude I'm still pissed that they did not go back to the legendary idea of Camelot's Mario Sports RPGs on GBA. That was amazing work. It gave some interesting take on the Mushroom Kingdom and Mario and others from characters who were people! Like you and me. It was fun, entertaining and was one hell of a direction.

Had they allowed Camelot to go on that path along with Golden Sun, right now we would have one of the best teams that would have pioneered the "Sports RPG" sub-genre that would have bled even into the likes of FIFA, Madden and co.

No wonder why that Virtua Tennis 4 to me is like one of the last few sports game I've truly enjoyed the past number of years.

 

[Deleted member]

Ironically for me, it's the DLC that makes me realize on just how half baked base SwSh is.

Doesn't even feel like it was made by the same company sometimes.

Wouldn't be surprised if they had such a strict deadline this time around they just released the game unfinished on purpose and just shoved everything else they wanted to do as DLC. In terms of raw content Sword and Shield is looking ambitious, around the level of say Ultra Sun and Moon in raw content. But for $90 it's doubtful if it's worth that price at all.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Tbh, could be on Sunday. They dropped the "Mr.Sakurai presents: HERO!" announcement on a Sunday.


I can't recall the last time they dropped a Direct announcement for a general one 3 days ahead of time.

Nintendo doesn't like to make announcements on weekends and Sakurai Presents isn't the same as a Direct.

 

[Deleted member]

Been rewatching a bit of Power Rangers Samurai after many years.

I'd say the series still holds up quite decently, maybe even more than many other Power Rangers show on the visual and acting department.

Tomorrow I may start watching the new show by Hasbro, as I heard It is good.

 

[Teeb147]

I mean, people genuinelly thought buying TemTem would be a big "suck it" to Pokemon and that Pokemon would have to try now if everyone bought it.

Said thoughts ended up killing TemTem.

So I'm sure people actually thought the boycott would work.

Did Temtem do bad? I thought of getting it at one point but decided to wait for now.

 

[TheMightyP]

Wouldn't be surprised if they had such a strict deadline this time around they just released the game unfinished on purpose and just shoved everything else they wanted to do as DLC. In terms of raw content Sword and Shield is looking ambitious, around the level of say Ultra Sun and Moon in raw content. But for $90 it's doubtful if it's worth that price at all.

I'm betting on that too, because some of the major issues SwSh had were solved in the Isle of Armor (an actual good open world area, gigantimax issues resolved, much better visually, Pokemon actually interact with the area, as well as being in places were they actually belong, etc).

Like, if they released the DLC as it's own game, you'd be better off getting that than SwSh.

 

[Rangez]

So... is it safe to come in now?

 

[Lamperouge]

So... is it safe to come in now?

Origami.

 

[TheMightyP]

Did Temtem do bad? I thought of getting it at one point but decided to wait for now.

No, but the game didn't live up to the hype that digruntled Pokemon Fans but it on

Plus, the DLC pratices that game had really irritated people.

Unfortunately so. Sometimes the vocal minority don't mean when it still means wee Jake down the street and his friends of eight year olds are going to get Pokemon.

Gaming is a business after all and very few companies know where and what they want to hit exactly. Look at Falcom for example and the fact that they have been focusing on primary just two series at least the past 15 years and have a happy enough and sizeable fanbase. It's enough to keep them afloat. Same with someone like Vanillaware or Double Fine or anything of that size.

The Pokemon thing pissed me off because Nintendo and co tried to eradicate everything about it and give a corporate smile of saying "Everything is Fun! There is nothing bad here." that drives me up the ****ing wall and then some. Still wee Jake, Aidan, Bradley and co all got, bought by their mothers and to the higher ups that's all that matters.



Dude I'm still pissed that they did not go back to the legendary idea of Camelot's Mario Sports RPGs on GBA. That was amazing work. It gave some interesting take on the Mushroom Kingdom and Mario and others from characters who were people! Like you and me. It was fun, entertaining and was one hell of a direction.

Had they allowed Camelot to go on that path along with Golden Sun, right now we would have one of the best teams that would have pioneered the "Sports RPG" sub-genre that would have bled even into the likes of FIFA, Madden and co.

No wonder why that Virtua Tennis 4 to me is like one of the last few sports game I've truly enjoyed the past number of years.

Ultra Smash was actually incomplete. Like, I know that term gets thrown around a lot, but that game was legit incomplete.

They got the tennis part, but they forgot the Mario.

 

[Wademan94]

So... is it safe to come in now?

It’s a Toad.

 

[Deleted member]

So... is it safe to come in now?

I don't know anymore.

Not sure what to ask the thread.

 

[Deleted member]

This is one of the most insane minecraft mods I have ever seen, the amount of detail on the animations is just *mwuh* beautiful

 

[Shroob]

It’s a Toad.

"It's a Toad, Tanabe, you didn't make it."

 

[Deleted member]

Not sure if I should buy the Switch port of regular Minecraft first or directly jump into Minecraft Dungeons instead.

I kinda have a bias for Dungeons as I like games where you fight hords of enemies.

Maybe TheCJBrine , SneakyLink or anyone else who owns both games can give me feedback.