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[SnakeFighter64]

Was gonna finally get back on my evil Pokémon team concept.

But then I looked and saw that most of the people who agreed to be part of it don’t use the site anymore.

And now I’m sad because I miss my friends.

 

[TheMightyP]

I mean some of the reasons I can forgive SPM over Sticker Star is cause SPM didn’t try to hide the fact that is was a platformer and while simplified, I think the gameplay is much more competent than in SS. SS is obtuse and cryptic as ****. I don’t think I’ve ever needed a guide on SPM whereas I couldn’t even complete SS without one. I think SPM makes less mistakes than SS. The Pixls has potential but definitely could’ve been handled better.

Not denying that SS is 100% the worse game in the series, but I'm just tired of people pushing the narrative that it's all SS fault with everything wrong when the big issues have been slowly creeping up since the third game. SS just dialed the issues to 11.

 

[Will]

This is what I'm assuming too.

It would be incredibly weird for her to talk about Geno fans reacting to an event that they didn't even get to see and react too...

That's what I'm saying, people really aren't using their heads when it comes to this.

 

[ZelDan]

For me, the worst thing about Sticker Star is that future games took inspiration from it.

Sure, Sticker Star itself was a poor game, but I'm also not necessarily against companies experimenting with their IPs as long as said IPs are in a decent place, and at that time Paper Mario wasn't really in a tough spot as I recall. The last Paper mario game we got was SPM, and while not as good as teh first 2 games I still thought it was overall decent.

After Sticker Star, had they went back to traditional PM, or atleast something closer to it, and made more exciting Paper mario games, I would find Paper Mario Sticker Star a bad but largely inoffensive game and just look back at it as "well, they tried something different and it simply didn't pan out. Oh well, **** happens."

Sadly though that's not how things went down.

 

[TheMightyP]

That's what I'm saying, people really aren't using their heads when it comes to this.

Implying that people actually use their heads for Smash speculation.

 

[Will]

Implying that people actually use their heads for Smash speculation.

I mean half of the responses I'm seeing to using that logic is literally, and I quote, "I don't care". And damn... they sure don't.

No means to ruin their parade though, they can take anything how they will, we won't truly know until Direct time. Could be Geno by coincidence.

 

[Z25]

I’m still betting it’s Geno for next reveal. If not, the second biggest third party reveal we could have gotten( or first it doesn’t really matter), is Crash. Which would have lined up nicely with all the new merch he got like Banjo last year before E3.

 

[Shroob]

I’m still betting it’s Geno for next reveal. If not, the second biggest third party reveal we could have gotten( or first it doesn’t really matter), is Crash. Which would have lined up nicely with all the new merch he got like Banjo last year before E3.

I think there's a big difference here tbh.

Banjo wasn't going to be in anything aside from Smash.


Crash has a brand new entry to his series coming out.

 

[TheMightyP]

I feel like at the end of the day, Origami King will be in another Super Paper Mario situation: it's going to be viewed as it's own thing, and isn't really gomne be considered part of a "duology" like 64/TTYD and SS/CS. Because while it's not in the style of the first two, I honestly can't for the life of me say that it looks like a Sticker Star sequel because of how much it seems different (actual unique villians, characters, story, bosses, completely different battle system, etc).

It's gonna be divisive for sure, but it's definitely gonna be regarded as it's own thing.

 

[Will]

actual unique villians

Aren't the villains ****ing real-life objects? Or are those just bosses controlled by villains?

 

[Zinith]

Already fanart of the salamander browsing the garden

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[TheMightyP]

Aren't the villains ****ing real-life objects? Or are those just bosses controlled by villains?

The real life objects are loyal to the main villian.

There's also the Vellumetals (the dragon bosses), which are actually unique to the franchise if real life objects don't count.

 

[Will]

There's also the Vellumetals (the dragon bosses), which are actually unique to the franchise if real life objects don't count.

How different are they from the TTYD dragons?

 

[TheMightyP]

How different are they from the TTYD dragons?

Same way Hooktail is different from Fracktail.

Also, if I read correctly, Olivia can gain their powers if they are defeated.

 

[Will]

Also, if I read correctly, Olivia can vaim their powers if theh are defeated.

She can what now?

 

[Zinith]

Already fanart of the salamander browsing the garden

For context

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[TheMightyP]

She can what now?

Damn, and I knew I was slow on fixing that typo.

 

[Z25]

I think there's a big difference here tbh.

Banjo wasn't going to be in anything aside from Smash.


Crash has a brand new entry to his series coming out.

True, but that would also have lined up pretty well tbh with an E3 Reveal.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Scott the woz' s rant on how Nintendo handled chibi robo resonated with me so damn hard.

Watch them remake TTYD and it gets a clean 99 lol

I doubt that would happen, I'm pretty sure a thousand year door remake would remove what made it special and just replace it with Toad, TOAD, TOAD, TOAD ****ING EVERYWHERE

 

[TheMightyP]

I think I said that Banjo being in Smash could mean Rare Replay is coming to the Switch, because it's been rumored for God knows how long.

Boy do I feel like a clown.

 

[TheCJBrine]

From what I'm reading, the whole "Geno was leaked?!?!" thing regarding a GameStop E3 interviewer could easily be a screw-up based on who it is and Covid screwing up the timeline and stuff, however I am just going to believe she was either referring to the mii costume in Smash 4 or something or was referring to the spirit and did poor research.

edit: although yeah these things do get reviewed/a lot of checks or whatever so I guess they wouldn't let this fly by anyway tbh unless they thought they could cover it up with the Geno spirit screen I guess...most-likely just poor wording or poor research + the editing team chose the spirit instead of what she was probably referring to, the costume.

 

[Z25]

How did such a blatantly fake rumor with bad and generic names like those get a video lol:

 

[Cutie Gwen]

How did such a blatantly fake rumor with bad and generic names like those get a video lol:

Because it's all for the sake of making videos to get ad revenue off on and by spreading this you're encouraging people to watch it. Clickbait youtuber 101

 

[TMNTSSB4]

spent the last 30 minutes trying to find the cutescene involving this

I know where the game is from...but I have mp idea what confidant/social link this specific face Morgana makes comes from

 

[snowgolem]

Because it's all for the sake of making videos to get ad revenue off on and by spreading this you're encouraging people to watch it. Clickbait youtuber 101

Nah, Papagenos does not clickbait. If you want a clickbait you tuber, go check out Blocked Content.
They made a video called “Nintendo said WHAT???” and later in the video told everyone that “this is obviously not the real nintendo”
Just because the leak is not believable doesn’t mean it’s clickbait.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Nah, Papagenos does not clickbait. If you want a clickbait you tuber, go check out Blocked Content.
They made a video called “Nintendo said WHAT???” and later in the video told everyone that “this is obviously not the real nintendo”
Just because the leak is not believable doesn’t mean it’s clickbait.

He does indeed clickbait. I don't understand why people pretend he's not and that he's different from LaxChris and Blocked Content when in reality he's on the same level and has even collabed on it. You don't make a 14 minute video, which just so happens to be long enough to have multiple ads, talking about something that can be summarized in less than a minute

 

[snowgolem]

He does indeed clickbait. I don't understand why people pretend he's not and that he's different from LaxChris and Blocked Content when in reality he's on the same level and has even collabed on it. You don't make a 14 minute video, which just so happens to be long enough to have multiple ads, talking about something that can be summarized in less than a minute

14 minutes isn’t just long enough, 10 mins is. If it were 11-12 minutes, then there’s a good chance you’d be right.
Also, he’s not just talking about the leak. He talks about gamestop mentioning how Geno is in the game, and also mentioned a leak which had already correctly predicted something.
And the majority of the discussion he’s making isn’t about the leak. It’s about speculation the leak brings up.
Papagenos is nowhere near as low as Blocked Content.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

14 minutes isn’t just long enough, 10 mins is. If it were 11-12 minutes, then there’s a good chance you’d be right.
Also, he’s not just talking about the leak. He talks about gamestop mentioning how Geno is in the game, and also mentioned a leak which had already correctly predicted something.
And the majority of the discussion he’s making isn’t about the leak. It’s about speculation the leak brings up.
Papagenos is nowhere near as low as Blocked Content.

Idk man I've seen the guy make 14 minute videos based on single tweets and activwly pull conspiracy theory bull****. Not to mention his 'real' Byleth reaction. Guy's a clickbaiter

 

[PLATINUM7]

How different are they from the TTYD dragons?

Same way Hooktail is different from Fracktail.

Also, if I read correctly, Olivia can gain their powers if they are defeated.

The vellumentals are based on the Four Symbols of Chinese constellations, a tortoise, tiger, dragon and phoenix.

 

[snowgolem]

Idk man I've seen the guy make 14 minute videos based on single tweets and activwly pull conspiracy theory bull****. Not to mention his 'real' Byleth reaction. Guy's a clickbaiter

If any videos are based on single tweets then they’re most likely actually speculation videos discussing how a character would fit in smash, not exactly talking about the tweet but using it to transition in discussion.
Or maybe I’m wrong, I can’t say I’ve watched every last one of his videos.
Yes, he does do some conspiracy stuff. Most of the time he points out that it is highly speculative, and when he doesn’t, who cares? It’s not like he’s using the title and thumbnail to say ‘Geno is in!!’ and then using conspiracy stuff.
He’s using the title to say ‘Direct on 20th, Geno is in!?’
And then discusses why he personally thinks they have a chance.
Oftentimes, there’s no conspiracy stuff whatsoever.
I wouldn’t call him a clickbaiter, and even if he is he’s nowhere near the level of Blocked Content.
But I guess we can agree to disagree.

 

[Shroob]

From what I'm reading, the whole "Geno was leaked?!?!" thing regarding a GameStop E3 interviewer could easily be a screw-up based on who it is and Covid screwing up the timeline and stuff, however I am just going to believe she was either referring to the mii costume in Smash 4 or something or was referring to the spirit and did poor research.

edit: although yeah these things do get reviewed/a lot of checks or whatever so I guess they wouldn't let this fly by anyway tbh unless they thought they could cover it up with the Geno spirit screen I guess...most-likely just poor wording or poor research + the editing team chose the spirit instead of what she was probably referring to, the costume.

There's also the question as to when the video was filmed.


The woman in question has been recovering from surgery the last few weeks, so the chance of it being anytime recently are very low. It's very likely this was filmed mid/late June to coincide with her surgery.


So, why would Nintendo drop press kits for a Direct over a month in advance? Places like Gamestop don't get their press kits THAT early, a week or two at best, and we already know that Nintendo pulled out of E3 in VERY early May, so it's incredibly unlikely that they'd have been E3 Press kits.


Looking at this from a completely unbiased perspective, **** doesn't line up.

 

[TheCJBrine]

If any videos are based on single tweets then they’re most likely actually speculation videos discussing how a character would fit in smash, not exactly talking about the tweet but using it to transition in discussion.
Or maybe I’m wrong, I can’t say I’ve watched every last one of his videos.
Yes, he does do some conspiracy stuff. Most of the time he points out that it is highly speculative, and when he doesn’t, who cares? It’s not like he’s using the title and thumbnail to say ‘Geno is in!!’ and then using conspiracy stuff.
He’s using the title to say ‘Direct on 20th, Geno is in!?’
And then discusses why he personally thinks they have a chance.
Oftentimes, there’s no conspiracy stuff whatsoever.
I wouldn’t call him a clickbaiter, and even if he is he’s nowhere near the level of Blocked Content.
But I guess we can agree to disagree.

Agreed; from what I’ve seen of PapaGenos’ vids, even if he brings up stuff that gets into “conspiracy” territory, he flat-out says it’s very outlandish or is just speculating and doesn’t personally believe it himself; I think he just likes talking about different stuff popping up in speculation.

Now, admittedly, that Byleth thing wasn’t cool, and sometimes his titles do sound like clickbait ones (albeit they’re usually directly tied to the speculation he brings up instead of being completely made-up or stretched to say Nintendo confirmed something), but meh, he seems cool and he’s gotta get some money somehow; at least he’s still clear about things instead of blindly 100% believing in 4chan leaks (seriously one of the other two dudes thought Project M Ninten on Brawl Battlefield was an Ultimate leak?) while stuffing his videos with more ads than necessary (the other speculation/leak channels mentioned doing this or at least one of them, and them being speculation/potential leak channels is why they collaborated before I guess, but anyone who’s seen their vids would know they’re not quite alike).

 

[ZelDan]

I don't know if I'd put PapaGenos quite on the level of LaxChris and BlockedContent.

Either way though I lost interest in his content a long time ago and found that Byleth "stunt" to be stupid as **** regardless of if it was real or not.

 

[TheCJBrine]

There's also the question as to when the video was filmed.


The woman in question has been recovering from surgery the last few weeks, so the chance of it being anytime recently are very low. It's very likely this was filmed mid/late June to coincide with her surgery.


So, why would Nintendo drop press kits for a Direct over a month in advance? Places like Gamestop don't get their press kits THAT early, a week or two at best, and we already know that Nintendo pulled out of E3 in VERY early May, so it's incredibly unlikely that they'd have been E3 Press kits.


Looking at this from a completely unbiased perspective, **** doesn't line up.

I agree though I think it could work if the Direct and whatever was meant to come earlier, so this could be a case of Corona screwing everything up and the GameStop people screwed up kinda, but yeah idk it doesn’t seem like good evidence for anything other than them messing up a little.

 

[snowgolem]

Agreed; from what I’ve seen of PapaGenos’ vids, even if he brings up stuff that gets into “conspiracy” territory, he flat-out says it’s very outlandish or is just speculating and doesn’t personally believe it himself; I think he just likes talking about different stuff popping up in speculation.

Now, admittedly, that Byleth thing wasn’t cool, and sometimes his titles do sound like clickbait ones (albeit they’re usually directly tied to the speculation he brings up instead of being completely made-up or stretched to say Nintendo confirmed something), but meh, he seems cool and he’s gotta get some money somehow; at least he’s still clear about things instead of blindly 100% believing in 4chan leaks (seriously one of the other two dudes thought Project M Ninten on Brawl Battlefield was an Ultimate leak?) while stuffing his videos with more ads than necessary (the other speculation/leak channels mentioned doing this or at least one of them, and them being speculation/potential leak channels is why they collaborated before I guess, but anyone who’s seen their vids would know they’re not quite alike).

Had to check his byleth reaction video because I didn’t watch it originally.
Yeah, he was whining, but imo that’s the worst he’s done in a while.
Of course he’s not perfect. No YouTuber makes videos without money in mind. There’s just a spectrum, and Papagenos is on the low end.

 

[Shroob]

I agree though I think it could work if the Direct and whatever was meant to come earlier, so this could be a case of Corona screwing everything up and the GameStop people screwed up kinda, but yeah idk it doesn’t seem like good evidence for anything other than them messing up a little.

https://twitter.com/pamelahorton13?lang=en

She's been out of comission ALL of July, so this would have had to be filmed sometime in June.


Nintendo dropped out of E3 in May, and we got the Smash presentation AND Pokemon Presentation(Two in fact) in June. They didn't delay the Direct, they completely restructured their schedule and fully intended the General Direct for July to not spread themselves too thin.


It makes 0 sense to send out a press kit over a month in advance, news outlets get theirs a week if not only a couple days in advance to minimize leaks, doing so a MONTH is insanity.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I agree though I think it could work if the Direct and whatever was meant to come earlier, so this could be a case of Corona screwing everything up and the GameStop people screwed up kinda, but yeah idk it doesn’t seem like good evidence for anything other than them messing up a little.

That would mean that multiple people screwed up. The writer, the script editor, the person recording and the video editor. Due to surgical recoveries it's highly unlikely this was all the same person meaning it requires at least 2 people up to 4 people missing the line and not realizing what it means, especially considering how easy it is to remove a line

 

[TheCJBrine]

https://twitter.com/pamelahorton13?lang=en

She's been out of comission ALL of July, so this would have had to be filmed sometime in June.


Nintendo dropped out of E3 in May, and we got the Smash presentation AND Pokemon Presentation(Two in fact) in June. They didn't delay the Direct, they completely restructured their schedule and fully intended the General Direct for July to not spread themselves too thin.


It makes 0 sense to send out a press kit over a month in advance, news outlets get theirs a week if not only a couple days in advance to minimize leaks, doing so a MONTH is insanity.

That would mean that multiple people screwed up. The writer, the script editor, the person recording and the video editor. Due to surgical recoveries it's highly unlikely this was all the same person meaning it requires at least 2 people up to 4 people missing the line and not realizing what it means, especially considering how easy it is to remove a line

Okay yeah I see now.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Had to check his byleth reaction video because I didn’t watch it originally.
Yeah, he was whining, but imo that’s the worst he’s done in a while.
Of course he’s not perfect. No YouTuber makes videos without money in mind. There’s just a spectrum, and Papagenos is on the low end.

PapaGenos has 2 reaction videos to Byleth, his tantrum and his 'real' reaction video. Didn't he also go "GUYS SAKURAI TWEETED ABOUT THE MOTHER 1 ANNIVERSARY DOES THIS MEAN NINTEN IS IN" while saying "Sakurai doesn't like talking about gaming much due to overzealous Smash fans" in the same video like 2 weeks ago?

 

[TheCJBrine]

wait the Smash stuff taking so long also made me wonder if it got delayed from an earlier date and they’re a big corporation likely looking for what dates they think are best- but still everyone screwing up over what should be easy to remove doesn’t make sense unless they’re really that incompetent...

Idk but I’m still gonna personally consider it as “nothing.”