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Character has armour
Casuals fight character with armour
Casuals don't know how to deal with armour
Casuals whine
Nintendo nerfs character with armour, making them one of the worst characters in the game
>Hero has an armour too
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I can only pray to prevent that scenario from happening to Hero or Banjo.
 

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K.Rool absolutely crushed people with bad fundamentals and those people whined loud enough to Nintendo

Mac still got hit with the nerf hammer pretty hard after the first patch of 4 iirc
I'm pretty sure K. Rool was laughably bad long before he got those few nerfs. People overhyped him way too much when he was first announced, and I had a feeling he would end up being the exact opposite of how people were picturing him in their heads. Ultimate finally released, and none of the top players would even touch him. That was before the first balance patch.
 

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I'm pretty sure K. Rool was laughably bad long before he got those few nerfs. People overhyped him way too much when he was first announced, and I had a feeling he would end up being the exact opposite of how people were picturing him in their heads. Ultimate finally released, and none of the top players would even touch him. That was before the first balance patch.
In short, just like Little Mac in Smash 4 in the 3DS days.

Early Patchs really suck, because peoples can't wait and learn the matchup before complaining, which then cause the wrong characters to get targeted with nerfs.
 
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I remember seeing Little Mac's trailer and thinking he will be buffed, but he is worse than in Smash 4.
 
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The only pick I would despise to see getting in Smash is Bubsy.

Honest question here: ignoring the people who buy all the DLC to get the full content of a game... why would someone pay 6€ just to add a failure of a character in their roster? Is there someone out there in this world who thinks “Hey, I would prefer to get Bubsy the Bobcat over Doomguy, Jill Valentine or freaking Dante in a non-ironic way”.
 

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I remember seeing Little Mac's trailer and thinking he will be buffed, but he is worse than in Smash 4.
But... he did got buffed. It's just nerfs, engine and other characters getting better hurt his tournament viability.

Personally, I couldn't care less about competitive tier lists, so I'm just happy he feels more fun to play in this game.
 
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But... he did got buffed. It's just nerfs, engine and other characters getting better hurt his tournament viability.

Personally, I couldn't care less about competitive tier lists, so I'm just happy he feels more fun to play in this game.
As a Jill and Phoenix Wright main in MvC, I deeply relate with this post.
 
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But... he did got buffed. It's just nerfs, engine and other characters getting better hurt his tournament viability.

Personally, I couldn't care less about competitive tier lists, so I'm just happy he feels more fun to play in this game.
You are missing what I am saying. He was buffed, but what I meant was I thought he would be better in Ultimate than in Smash 4.
 

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The only pick I would despise to see getting in Smash is Bubsy.

Honest question here: ignoring the people who buy all the DLC to get the full content of a game... why would someone pay 6€ just to add a failure of a character in their roster? Is there someone out there in this world who thinks “Hey, I would prefer to get Bubsy the Bobcat over Doomguy, Jill Valentine or freaking Dante in a non-ironic way”.
Well, there must be a Bubsy superfan somewhere out there. I don't think the possibility of Bubsy getting into Smash is something you'll ever have to worry about though.
 

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The only pick I would despise to see getting in Smash is Bubsy.

Honest question here: ignoring the people who buy all the DLC to get the full content of a game... why would someone pay 6€ just to add a failure of a character in their roster? Is there someone out there in this world who thinks “Hey, I would prefer to get Bubsy the Bobcat over Doomguy, Jill Valentine or freaking Dante in a non-ironic way”.
Yes, they're called Bubsy the Bobcat fans.
 
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Hear me out for a moment contreras:

What if after Kirby inhales Banjo and takes his ability... this character appeared alongside the pink ball instead of Kazooie?
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Hear me out for a moment contreras:

What if after Kirby inhales Banjo and takes his ability... this character appeared alongside the pink ball instead of Kazooie?
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The usual suggestions for a new Kirby character are Waddle Dee or Marx, but I'd really like to see Rick with all the other animal friends.
 
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So who do you guys think is next in line for the 2nd Microsoft rep for the next game?
 
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So who do you guys think is next in line for the 2nd Microsoft rep for the next game?
Steve would be cool to represent the sandbox genre, and the stage/moveset potential with him is huge if done properly.

Can’t say much about Chief since I never played Halo (I wish I could doh). However, I heard a bit of the Halo OST and he would likely bring wonderful tunes for the fights.
 
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Hey everyone. So we took a break on AMAs this week so no one was overshadowed by E3 (and because I'm out of town or whatever).

But! We'll start again tomorrow as usual, so I used the name picker thingy to draw two Kore random names. Winners are...

SnakeFighter64 SnakeFighter64 on Sunday and @Dyllybirdy on Wednesday!

Are you two good to go for AMAs?
No problem! I’m super excited!
 

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Hey, I just made another moveset concept video! It's for one of my favorite characters, so I'd love to hear what you think. Gonna tag Arcadenik Arcadenik for this one!
 

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I'm pretty sure K. Rool was laughably bad long before he got those few nerfs. People overhyped him way too much when he was first announced, and I had a feeling he would end up being the exact opposite of how people were picturing him in their heads. Ultimate finally released, and none of the top players would even touch him. That was before the first balance patch.
Oh absolutely, I'm still confused as to why people went "WOAH I'VE NEVER SEEN A HEAVY WITH THIS MUCH MOBILITY" when Bowser exists. And again, Noob crusher. Nintendo's core audience lacked fundamentals and complained about it, which Nintendo deemed more important than actual balance. Luckily the latest patch fixed up some low tier characters
 
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I'm pretty sure K. Rool was laughably bad long before he got those few nerfs. People overhyped him way too much when he was first announced, and I had a feeling he would end up being the exact opposite of how people were picturing him in their heads. Ultimate finally released, and none of the top players would even touch him. That was before the first balance patch.
I remember playing Smash with some old friends I knew, and they all thought King K. Rool was overpowered and broken, and I told them that they were wrong.
 
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Honestly, I don’t care about a character being considered low tier.

If videos like this one have taught me something, is that any character can be great on the right hands:
Consider that some people doesn’t see Wright as a top tier character, yet this player was able to beat a hacker who used a Galactus team with him.
 

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Honestly, I don’t care about a character being considered low tier.

If videos like this one have taught me something, is that any character can be great on the right hands:

Consider that some people doesn’t see Wright as a top tier character, yet this player was able to beat a hacker who used a Galactus team with him.
Probably speaks more to the hacker's lack of skill than anything else.
 
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Probably speaks more to the hacker's lack of skill than anything else.
That could be considered in many cases.

But for a fight between a normal player and a hacker, it does seem impressive.
 

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Not sure if these have been posted already, but here a some screenshot of Hero in the game provided by the Hero social thread.
I’m glad Slime is in the DQ stage.
Huh, here's a cool detail I noticed: What appears to be his Up Smash animation appears to have a lightning strike in the first one, but nothing in the 4th pic. Perhaps some of his spells change the elemental properties of the sword?
 
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Huh, here's a cool detail I noticed: What appears to be his Up Smash animation appears to have a lightning strike in the first one, but nothing in the 4th pic. Perhaps some of his spells change the elemental properties of the sword?
That would be cool.
 

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I'm convinced Maximilian Dood can look into the future for 5 seconds or some ****. He instantly recognized that the Cloud trailer for Smash 4 was for Cloud and he freaked the **** out but hey, it's his favourite game.


Then he recognizes Panzer Dragoon after hearing a grand total of TWO notes and starts screaming
 
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I'm convinced Maximilian Dood can look into the future for 5 seconds or some ****. He instantly recognized that the Cloud trailer for Smash 4 was for Cloud and he freaked the **** out but hey, it's his favourite game.


Then he recognizes Panzer Dragoon after hearing a grand total of TWO notes and starts screaming
Tbf, anyone who played FF7 would recognize the song at the start of Cloud’s trailer.

The Panzer Dragoon one does sound more interesting doh.
 

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I'm convinced Maximilian Dood can look into the future for 5 seconds or some ****. He instantly recognized that the Cloud trailer for Smash 4 was for Cloud and he freaked the **** out but hey, it's his favourite game.


Then he recognizes Panzer Dragoon after hearing a grand total of TWO notes and starts screaming
Max replays FF7 every year, I would think he'd have the entire intro into the game down to its notes ingrained in his mind by now.

Surprised about PD though, never knew he was a fan.
 

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Oh absolutely, I'm still confused as to why people went "WOAH I'VE NEVER SEEN A HEAVY WITH THIS MUCH MOBILITY" when Bowser exists. And again, Noob crusher. Nintendo's core audience lacked fundamentals and complained about it, which Nintendo deemed more important than actual balance. Luckily the latest patch fixed up some low tier characters
To play devil's advocate, it is important to ensure that everyone is having fun, even those who lack any skill. Balancing solely around the best players may be the ideal, but it could alienate the larger, more casual playerbase.
 

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Tbf, anyone who played FF7 would recognize the song at the start of Cloud’s trailer.

The Panzer Dragoon one does sound more interesting doh.
Max replays FF7 every year, I would think he'd have the entire intro into the game down to its notes ingrained in his mind by now.

Surprised about PD though, never knew he was a fan.
Hence why I said "But hey" as yeah one WOULD recognize their favourite game. But Panzoor Dragoon after two goddamn notes makes no sense. staindgrey staindgrey how do you feel about this
 

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So I just came back inside after doing some yard work, and why I was doing that work I decided to listen to the Banjo-Kazooie soundtrack, including Gruntilda’s Lair, Clankers Cavern, Gobi Desert, and other songs.

It took me back to my childhood, to when I played that game so ****ing much, and then I realized how happy it makes me that Banjo-Kazooie is actually in Smash.

Bruh. The remixes if Grant Kirkhope does the rest of the OST? It’s all ogre for me.
 
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We know only 3 out of 5 DLC characters, but how would you all rate the fighters pass so far?
 
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