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[osby]

So why ditch them? Why ditch a rule we’ve been working with for months NOW of all times before it’s even been disproved by anything official.

Which rules are you talking about?

It feels like people are just trying to make the characters they want feel more likely.

Okay, but this also applies to fan rules.

Vergeben is a liar and it actually is Heihachi or Augumon

That went 0 to 100 real quick.

 

[Z25]

Actually here I found it:

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you .......

— Grant Kirkhope (@grantkirkhope) May 31, 2019

This was literally before E3. So yes people involved in smash are straight up lying about( for obvious reasons of course) and we can’t take them at face value. The only one I would honestly trust to deconfrim companies is verge

 

[Deleted member]

Rule #1 of Smash speculation: there are no rules.
Rule #2 of Smash speculation: there are no rules.
Rule #3 of Smash speculation: Memes.

Also good evening guys.

 

[Rangez]

Good Afternoon!

Rule #1 of Smash speculation: there are no rules.
Rule #2 of Smash speculation: there are no rules.
Rule #3 of Smash speculation: Memes.

Also good evening guys.

And a good afternoon to you!

 

[Deleted member]

Vergeben has a lot of credibility Smash-wise.

He has gotten a lot of things right and tends to mostly talk about the stuff he is 100% clear about (sometimes requiring some external sources, but still claims nonetheless).

He may skip out a few stuff such as K.Rool or Richter, but he gave quite big fair reasons for doing so.


I seriously suggest most people to take Vergeben’s word into consideration. Doesn’t mean you have to undoubtly 100% believe what they comment, but at least consider it in mind for future stuff.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

Speculation stopped being fun for me a long time ago. Right now I'm a lot more focused on supporting characters I like, rather than predicting characters I don't like that I'd probably be wrong about anyways.

 

[Wademan94]

Very blessed.

I. Found. All. The. Sonic. Posters! @SonicMovie @Sonic_Hedgehog #SonicMovie #CatchSonic pic.twitter.com/h35lsZxwa4

— Ben Schwartz (@rejectedjokes) December 5, 2019

 

[Knight Dude]

So why ditch them? Why ditch a rule we’ve been working with for months NOW of all times before it’s even been disproved by anything official. It feels like people are just trying to make the characters they want feel more likely.

Vergeben is a liar and it actually is Heihachi or Augumon.

I don't think we're getting a Namco/Capcom character either, but many so called "rules" that fans place get trashed anyway. Really, the only "rules" that still seem to be in place is that a character HAS to originate from a video game. And a character who is already an Assist Trophy has NOT been made playable as well yet in the same game yet. But Mac, Charizard, D.Samus and Isabelle made the jump in between games.

- We originally thought a company would only get one character per third party, yet Mega Man and Ryu/Sonic and Bayo were in Smash 4.
- We never thought a third party series would get a 2nd character, yet we got Richter and Ken.
- No one thought Chrom would get in because of being in Robin's Final Smash, yet he's playable.
- We were told Ridley was too big, yet he's fully playable.
- Or King K. Rool being too irrelevant and past his prime to add.
- Joker straight up has a handgun when we all thought guns would bar a character from being playable.
- Banjo&Kazooie are owned by another console maker, something most people would understandably doubt being added in.

Not to say all of these are super likely. Just not impossible either. There's a smaller chance to get another character like Mega Man X or Fiora to be playable, whilst also being in a Final Smash like Chrom. And we aren't sure if "irrelevant" characters like K.Rool and Banjo&Kazooie will happen again. But people are still rooting for Geno and Isaac. However to say that it's impossible simply because some dude on Twitter or Youtube says it is, rather than some actual game developer, is meaningless.

I personally never thought Cloud of all characters would get in, yet he is.

 

[Z25]

7 more days till the game awards! It’s only a week away now! Fighter Five May soon be upon us. Today’s countdown looks back on the triumphant return of the Kremlin King!

Definitely a great trailer and has one of my favorite smash remixes. K Rool is also a really fun heavy weight. I’m glad he’s here after so much fan demand

 

[Bee Card]

We all now my boy Arthur from ghosts'n goblin's is gonna be the next character
(yes I know there's just little chance )

 

[Knight Dude]

Speculation stopped being fun for me a long time ago. Right now I'm a lot more focused on supporting characters I like, rather than predicting characters I don't like that I'd probably be wrong about anyways.

That's where I've been for a long time. I don't mind trying to guess who's in (getting to know characters you didn't before is the fun part), but ultimately, that doesn't matter much if you guess correctly or not. I'd rather spend my time and energy getting people interested in stuff like Mega Man X and Tekken, than worry if I correctly assumed Gordon Freeman is in Smash or whoever else. It's why I want another Ballot, since I think people need to not be afraid to ASK FOR WHAT THEY WANT! AND NOT FOR WHAT THEY THINK WILL HAPPEN ANYWAY!

We're making SCHMOVES Maverick Hunters!

 

[Deleted member]

7 more days till the game awards! It’s only a week away now! Fighter Five May soon be upon us. Today’s countdown looks back on the triumphant return of the Kremlin King!

Definitely a great trailer and has one of my favorite smash remixes. K Rool is also a really fun heavy weight. I’m glad he’s here after so much fan demand

That Direct also gave me one of my favourite newcomers as of now:

K.Rool was also someone I wanted doh.

 

[Deleted member]

- We never thought a third party series would get a 2nd character, yet we got Richter and Ken.
- No one thought Chrom would get in because of being in Robin's Final Smash, yet he's playable.
- We were told Ridley was too big, yet he's fully playable.
- Or King K. Rool being too irrelevant and past his prime to add.
- Joker straight up has a handgun when we all thought guns would bar a character from being playable.
- Banjo&Kazooie are owned by another console maker, something most people would understandably doubt being added in.

In addition to this, there's also Villager who was used as an example for someone unfit to become a direct fighter during one of the "Iwata asks" segments, yet he was the first newcomer shown for Smash 4 and we've also gotten Isabelle as well. I'd add a link, but it won't load for me.

 

[Rangez]

I'm going to do some on-demand binge-watching for a while, my Mom also ordered some Pizza Hut for lunch so it's going to be a comfortable treat.

 

[Knight Dude]

In addition to this, there's also Villager who was used as an example for someone unfit to become a direct fighter during one of the "Iwata asks" segments, yet he was the first newcomer shown for Smash 4 and we've also gotten Isabelle as well. I'd add a link, but it won't load for me.

And now we know him as Killager the Murderbito.

 

[Deleted member]

Legit, while Sakurai was showcasing Chrom as the first of the two echo fighter reveals on the presentation I was thinking “Damn, Chrom looks so cool. I wonder how Sakurai could surpass him in my eyes”.

Then Dark Samus popped out of a wormhole and I jumped from my couch really high from the hype and then screamed “HOLY ****, THE MADMAN IS GOING ALL OUT WITH METROID”

 

[Z25]

An accurate depiction of heroes:

Going from Book 3 to Book 4 in FEH pic.twitter.com/JDGk1Fep5H

— Kimerson (@TheKimersonShow) December 5, 2019

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Maybe Jon is right, Spirits don't disconfirm, and Shantae is FP5.

Give me genie girl.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I wouldn’t really take fan rules as a fact. It’s something to consider, for sure, but I don’t think it’s a solid deconformation of anything.

 

[Lamperouge]

Legit, while Sakurai was showcasing Chrom as the first of the two echo fighter reveals on the presentation I was thinking “Damn, Chrom looks so cool. I wonder how Sakurai could surpass him in my eyes”.

Then Dark Samus popped out of a wormhole and I jumped from my couch really high from the hype and then screamed “HOLY ****, THE MADMAN IS GOING ALL OUT WITH METROID”

I'm still a tad bit disappointed that Dark Samus was relegated to being a simple echo fighter when she had so much potential to be another extremely unique Metroid rep.

Maybe Jon is right, Spirits don't disconfirm, and Shantae is FP5.

Give me genie girl.

You guys won't hear the end of it from me if either Shantae or Rex make it in someday.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Maybe Jon is right, Spirits don't disconfirm, and Shantae is FP5.

Give me genie girl.

If Shantae was added in to the game as a playable character, I would lose my ****.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm still a tad bit disappointed that Dark Samus was relegated to being a simple echo fighter when she had so much potential to be another extremely unique Metroid rep.

I can understand that sentiment.

I do think that maybe Sakurai made Dark Samus an echo fighter due to time constraints. And with that considered, I do believe he did a decent enough job.

But yeah, an original moveset for Dark Samus could have been great too.

 

[Lamperouge]

I can understand that sentiment.

I do think that maybe Sakurai made Dark Samus an echo fighter due to time constraints. And with that considered, I do believe he did a decent enough job.

But yeah, an original moveset for Dark Samus could have been great too.

It's a shame too, because she'll likely never be updated to have a more original moveset in future Smash games because they chose to make her an echo fighter, assuming she's even brought back at all, that is.

As a huge fan of the Prime trilogy, I definitely appreciate the gesture and even find myself using Dark Samus quite often, but I'm sad with how her potential was wasted like that.

 

[Deleted member]

Speculation stopped being fun for me a long time ago. Right now I'm a lot more focused on supporting characters I like, rather than predicting characters I don't like that I'd probably be wrong about anyways.

This is me, minus supporting any character because the only ones I really want in are 4th-party, so 0% chance.

I learned my lesson after Terry, whoever it is, I won't ***** about it like when Terry was revealed. hopefully, anyway

 

[Shadowwolflink]

These are the main possibilities that I see right now:

Shantae - surprising everyone, Spirits do not disconfirm.

Sora - Probably the biggest surprise, he would probably blow everyone's mind. But would they have Haley Joel Osment or would we be stuck with his Japanese voice? Don't want that.

Phoenix Wright - I'm going to ignore the whole Capcom thing from last night, I never actually saw any proof.

Edelgard - It sure is weird that one of Nintendo's biggest games of the year didn't get the Spirit treatment while something like Daemon X Machina got a lot of love. And that's coming from someone who was absolutely sure it would be 100% third parties.

 

[Deleted member]

A Three Houses rep is possible, but as someone who hasn’t played the game I don’t dare to specifically choose one character from the game as a possible Smash fighter.

But the concept in general seems possible.

 

[Lamperouge]

I'm very happy with Joker and Terry so I'm not losing any sleep over who the last character will be in the fighter pass.

My only real hope is that they're fun to play.

 

[Knight Dude]

These are the main possibilities that I see right now:

Shantae - surprising everyone, Spirits do not disconfirm.

Sora - Probably the biggest surprise, he would probably blow everyone's mind. But would they have Haley Joel Osment or would we be stuck with his Japanese voice? Don't want that.

Phoenix Wright - I'm going to ignore the whole Capcom thing from last night, I never actually saw any proof.

Edelgard - It sure is weird that one of Nintendo's biggest games of the year didn't get the Spirit treatment while something like Daemon X Machina got a lot of love. And that's coming from someone who was absolutely sure it would be 100% third parties.

Shantae or Phoenix would slap. That's for sure. What do you think of Rayman pulling it off instead? He seems pretty popular too.

That said, I think FP5 isn't going to be a character who has a Spirit in the base game. Post FP could be a whole different situation, as they were made at different points in development.

 

[osby]

So, I finished Life is Strange 2.

My heart is broken, my spirit is crushed and my life is ruined.

Hope it gets that Game Award.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

These are the main possibilities that I see right now:

Shantae - surprising everyone, Spirits do not disconfirm.

Sora - Probably the biggest surprise, he would probably blow everyone's mind. But would they have Haley Joel Osment or would we be stuck with his Japanese voice? Don't want that.

Phoenix Wright - I'm going to ignore the whole Capcom thing from last night, I never actually saw any proof.

Edelgard - It sure is weird that one of Nintendo's biggest games of the year didn't get the Spirit treatment while something like Daemon X Machina got a lot of love. And that's coming from someone who was absolutely sure it would be 100% third parties.

I’m almost certain it’s none of them. Fire Emblem probably is coming post pass, but I maintain that characters who belong to a franchise already in the game will not come with a stage and only a few music tracks. That’s the current established pattern. Stages come with new franchises. And every FP character is coming with a stage.

As for the rest, imo, shantae and Phoenix are too small to end the pass on, much less reveal at the frickin game awards. And Disney is Disney and Disney is the worst. Now way Sora makes it with how controlling they are. They just won’t cooperate.

 

[Deleted member]

In my case I got quite the amount of Dragon Quest and Metroid fan-service I always wanted to see in a Smash Bros game.

I can literally have my pipe dream crossover between Eight from DQ8 and Samus at last, which I thought would take way more years to happen.

I’m at a point where I can’t literally ask more to Sakurai.

 

[osby]

As for the rest, imo, shantae and Phoenix are too small to end the pass on, much less reveal at the frickin game awards. And Disney is Disney and Disney is the worst. Now way Sora makes it with how controlling they are. They just won’t cooperate.

Ace Attorney isn't much smaller than Persona.

Also, last game ended with Bayo over Ryu or Cloud, Sakurai doesn't care about big endings.

 

[Deleted member]

So, I finished Life is Strange 2.

My heart is broken, my spirit is crushed and my life is ruined.

Hope it gets that Game Award.

You know, I always wanted to get into the Life Is Strange series.

I played the Captain Spirit minigame and the build up did feel really promising for the games. The series is also made by a favourite company of mine: Square Enix.

It will be tough to convince my parents about buying games right now, but I surely want to try more games in the series out sometime in the future.

 

[Aurane]

>shoveling snow
>mom comes out
>"God damn it's cold out here."

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I’m almost certain it’s none of them. Fire Emblem probably is coming post pass, but I maintain that characters who belong to a franchise already in the game will not come with a stage and only a few music tracks. That’s the current established pattern. Stages come with new franchises. And every FP character is coming with a stage.

As for the rest, imo, shantae and Phoenix are too small to end the pass on, much less reveal at the frickin game awards. And Disney is Disney and Disney is the worst. Now way Sora makes it with how controlling they are. They just won’t cooperate.

I mean, Capcom failed to keep enough copies of Ace Attorney in stores when it first came to America so I don't quite get it. The franchise is more succesful than some other franchise already in Smash, DLC or otherwise

 

[Shadowwolflink]

I’m almost certain it’s none of them. Fire Emblem probably is coming post pass, but I maintain that characters who belong to a franchise already in the game will not come with a stage and only a few music tracks. That’s the current established pattern. Stages come with new franchises. And every FP character is coming with a stage.

As for the rest, imo, shantae and Phoenix are too small to end the pass on, much less reveal at the frickin game awards. And Disney is Disney and Disney is the worst. Now way Sora makes it with how controlling they are. They just won’t cooperate.

No, that's just a lot of falacy. There's no "established pattern," just because Piranha Plant didn't have a stage doesn't mean someone else can't.

What does that mean "too small for the Game Awards"? Whether or not the character they choose is as popular as some other character is meaningless, the reveal will be huge news at this point just because it's "the end of the Smash Fighter Pass."

And we don't know how Disney would work with Smash, you're just seeing the whole company a certain way because of some weird hate you have for them. The way I would see it if I were them is essentially free advertising for their franchise where they don't have to put any work into AND they get some profits from it.

We literally don't know anything, but you're stating things as if they're facts.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Whether or not FP5 is a big ending doesn't really matter when more fighters are on the way afterwards.

I'm also I'm not making any predictions or expectations for FP5 as I'm very happy with what we've gotten so far (EVERYONE IS HERE!, Inkling, King K. Rool, Banjo & Kazooie, and Terry to name a few)

 

[Aurane]

>people here stating their views and opinions as facts

 

[osby]

You know, I always wanted to get into the Life Is Strange series.

I played the Captain Spirit minigame and the build up did feel really promising for the games. The series is also made by a favourite company of mine: Square Enix.

It will be tough to convince my parents about buying games right now, but I surely want to try more games in the series out sometime in the future.

They are great games, but not everyone's cup of tea. Captain Spirit gives you a good idea about what to expect but mainline games are a lot darker.

The first game is less polished, so it might be harder to get into so if you have to decide between them I recommend LiS2.

 

[Deleted member]

They are great games, but not everyone's cup of tea. Captain Spirit gives you a good idea about what to expect but mainline games are a lot darker.

The first game is less polished, so it might be harder to get into so if you have to decide between them I recommend LiS2.

I’ll take that in mind and hopefully start with LiS2 when the chance appears for me then.

I was quite impressed with Captain Spirit.