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unless they add voice acting for your character and other characters, having a customizable character is useless to me
Eh.... disagree. Unique Character Design =/= Voice Acting, but it does play a part.
Just ask all of the Links, most of em have a similar personality, but are completely different otherwise.
 

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Huh? What do you mean, exactly?
I think I wanna **** men
Both male and female have been customizable in X and Y, Sun and Moon and these games
Oh. So it's not a new problem then. Still disappointing.

If this keeps happening, there won't be any new modern choices for games like Smash because every character will be so varied and so customizable that representing them would be impossible and they wouldn't have any personality to work with.
In the vast majority of Pokemon games, story for me is just "text boxes you mash A through." I'll take a flexible customized character over that.
Doesn't really help with my problem though does it.

I swear, with every thing I like about this game there's another thing that makes me hate it.
 

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Eh.... disagree. Unique Character Design =/= Voice Acting, but it does play a part.
Just ask all of the Links, most of em have a similar personality, but are completely different otherwise.
Not completely related, but I do wish future Zelda games or more games with silent protagonists did dialogue options like Skyward Sword, especially if it affects what the other characters say and respond to you.
 

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As others said, they're customizable, however their default appearances have names so I'm assuming they're actual characters too.
Oh. So they still have actual designs and names, but since they're still customizable everything in the plot and trainer animations is still generic as ****. In other words, the problem is only half fixed.
 
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Im mostly talking about pokemon games pff
welp, off to hang myself!
(it's a reference to a TF2 video, not actually going to, ya know)
I think I wanna **** men

Oh. So it's not a new problem then. Still disappointing.

If this keeps happening, there won't be any new modern choices for games like Smash because every character will be so varied and so customizable that representing them would be impossible and they wouldn't have any personality to work with.

Doesn't really help with my problem though does it.

I swear, with every thing I like about this game there's another thing that makes me hate it.
I still don't really get it.
Best I can guess is you(being a Women, I think? dunno exactly) want to do the dirty thing to men?
 

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Best I can guess is you(being a Women, I think? dunno exactly) want to do the dirty thing to men?
snake doesn't like men or anything masculine

and now we have the biggest plot twist of the century

If this keeps happening, there won't be any new modern choices for games like Smash because every character will be so varied and so customizable that representing them would be impossible and they wouldn't have any personality to work with.
reminder that :ultinkling: is in the game
 

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Pokemon has always had a blank character for the player to semi-impose themselves on. The fact that most protagonists other than Red never coming back kind of leads into that, with Red himself being mostly mute. So changing them up to fit the player in any way makes a lot of sense to me, especially since most games since Gen 2 let you at least pick which sex your player character was.

Granted, I generally prefer a main character to get attached to. Not in the means of escapism, but more so I enjoy really cool character designs and sometimes the narrative attached to some of those characters as well. I wouldn't want Metroid to replace Samus with a created rando, same with Mega Man or Ryu being swapped out of a Shoto of your own making. That'd be pretty lame to me.
 
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snake doesn't like men or anything masculine

and now we have the biggest plot twist of the century


reminder that :ultinkling: is in the game
Yeah, um, I think now is a good time as any to drop this anyway, I really don't feel like this is a topic we should be discussing, even with the recent move to General.

so, guess it's ****post time!


TFW you defeat a literal planet via a Children's Card game:
 

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snake doesn't like men or anything masculine

and now we have the biggest plot twist of the century


reminder that :ultinkling: is in the game
You have to admit, Splatoon isn't as customizable as other games on the market and the in game personality of the inklings is all basically "happy and 80's". It's not like they have custom emotes or dialogue choices that change how the character acts and is perceived. Which is a good thing for Sakurai because it makes adding them very easy. But then you look at games like Cyberpunk 2077 and start to realize the problem is growing.
 

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You have to admit, Splatoon isn't as customizable as other games on the market and the in game personality of the inklings is all basically "happy and 80's". It's not like they have custom emotes or dialogue choices that change how the character acts and is perceived. Which is a good thing for Sakurai because it makes adding them very easy. But then you look at games like Cyberpunk 2077 and start to realize the problem is growing.
I call it "the default costume".
 

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You have to admit, Splatoon isn't as customizable as other games on the market and the in game personality of the inklings is all basically "happy and 80's". It's not like they have custom emotes or dialogue choices that change how the character acts and is perceived. Which is a good thing for Sakurai because it makes adding them very easy. But then you look at games like Cyberpunk 2077 and start to realize the problem is growing.
Granted, Splatoon was made for 5min-however long you want it to be of quick, fast, shooter fun, and CyberPunk is like an entire narrative adventure.

With that said, I would like a little more emotes, we have the This Way and Booyah, but the left and right on the D-Pad do absolutely nothing. Then again, I don't know why one would start dancing in the middle of a game where it's REALLY easy to die, and will happen a lot.
 

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Hypothetically speaking, if I were able to choose the remaining newcomers, it would be

FP1
5. Lloyd Irving

FP2
1. Phoenix Wright
2. Ryu Hayabusa
3. Master Chief
4. Heihachi
5. Dante


FP3
1. Monokuma
2. Doom Slayer
3. Sora
4. Scorpion
5. Jill Valentine/Leon Kennedy


FP4

1. Chosen Undead (Dark Souls)
2. Crash Bandicoot
3. Kratos
4. Gordon Freeman
5. Monster Hunter

How would you all rate this?

(And Steve is a bonus character)

I give this list a 6/10, I wouldn't be super hyped about a lot of the characters in this list. But since Sora's there and that's really all I want to see get added I'd be happy with anything so long as we got him.
 

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If this keeps happening, there won't be any new modern choices for games like Smash because every character will be so varied and so customizable that representing them would be impossible and they wouldn't have any personality to work with.
They aren't gonna turn every video game protagonist into an avatar lol.
 
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I give this list a 6/10, I wouldn't be super hyped about a lot of the characters in this list. But since Sora's there and that's really all I want to see get added I'd be happy with anything so long as we got him.
Oh hi there! Haven't seen you around here before holy **** how many new people is that just today? 3?
 

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Pokemon isn't even a franchise to worry about when it comes to generic and boring characters being added as newcomers in Smash.

Neither of the SwSh protagonists are getting in over a Pokemon.
 
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Granted, Splatoon was made for 5min-however long you want it to be of quick, fast, shooter fun, and CyberPunk is like an entire narrative adventure.

With that said, I would like a little more emotes, we have the This Way and Booyah, but the left and right on the D-Pad do absolutely nothing. Then again, I don't know why one would start dancing in the middle of a game where it's REALLY easy to die, and will happen a lot.
I'm not saying I want more of that stuff. I'm saying I want less of it. I'm tired of linear sandbox action-rpgs/action adventures with so much customization that your character basically isn't a character. I want linear gameplay. I want to progress from stage to stage along the lines of a plot, and I want an actual character with an actual personality to step into the shoes of so I can forget about my life for a few hours. I want that to be the norm again so I finally have an abundance of games to play, something I have almost never had in the years I've been into gaming. I'm ****ing nostalgic for an era of gaming I DIDN'T EVEN EXPERIENCE. That's how dissatisfied I am with the current gaming climate. And I wish I could find all the other people who statistically have to have similar opinions so I don't sound like someone who want's all of gaming to bend to her personal desires.
 

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I beat that Century Smash thing with Ken, where you only use Special moves. It took like 5 or 6 tries, but it wasn't too bad. Really the only thing that sucked was getting like 96 K.Os out of 100 on half of those tries because Richter felt like being a huge ****head.

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And Spring-Man's a pretty set main character, not that he'd be added in this specific title, if you want a lead who isn't customization. There's also Dante, Rex, Jill, Lara, Crash, Hayabusa and so on. The Twins from Astral Chain would just be choosing your character's sex like Robin, as would Byleth. Though there's plenty of people tired of Fire Emblem.
 

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Yet another channel I like is probably gonna die to the youtube apocalypse. Ugh. You guys should really sign the petition.
 
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I'm not saying I want more of that stuff. I'm saying I want less of it. I'm tired of linear sandbox action-rpgs/action adventures with so much customization that your character basically isn't a character. I want linear gameplay. I want to progress from stage to stage along the lines of a plot, and I want an actual character with an actual personality to step into the shoes of so I can forget about my life for a few hours. I want that to be the norm again so I finally have an abundance of games to play, something I have almost never had in the years I've been into gaming. I'm ****ing nostalgic for an era of gaming I DIDN'T EVEN EXPERIENCE. That's how dissatisfied I am with the current gaming climate. And I wish I could find all the other people who statistically have to have similar opinions so I don't sound like someone who want's all of gaming to bend to her personal desires.
Oh god, this is going to be a repeat of "Nintendo BAD" isn't it...

AHEM.. I REALLLLLY disagree with you, but I really don't feel like writing an essay in response(especially considering the project I have to do tomorrow)
 

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They aren't gonna turn every video game protagonist into an avatar lol.
Wanna bet? How many games this year came out with non-customizable characters who have actual personalities and defined character traits. Who go through an actual arc. Who have an actually story that's actually about them and not just happening around them.
 
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Hypothetically speaking, if I were able to choose the remaining newcomers, it would be

FP1
5. Lloyd Irving

FP2
1. Phoenix Wright
2. Ryu Hayabusa
3. Master Chief
4. Heihachi
5. Dante


FP3
1. Monokuma
2. Doom Slayer
3. Sora
4. Scorpion
5. Jill Valentine/Leon Kennedy


FP4

1. Chosen Undead (Dark Souls)
2. Crash Bandicoot
3. Kratos
4. Gordon Freeman
5. Monster Hunter

How would you all rate this?

(And Steve is a bonus character)
This would be my list:

FP5: Reimu

Fighter Pass 2: Saber, Kasumi, Phoenix Wright, Master Chief, Ryu Hayabusa

Fighter Pass 3: Doomguy, Artorias, Viewtiful Joe, Layton, Lloyd

Fighter Pass 4: Adeleine, Mach Rider, Pauline, Rayman, Steve

This isn’t based on real character chances or anything, just the way I would make the passes.
 

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I hope if Tales gets in, it gets the Fatal Fury treatment since Motoi Sakuraba composed most of the songs and contributed to Smash Ultimate already. Of all the Tale songs, I really hope Eternia's Celestia Battle theme gets in. One of my favorite RPG battle themes of all time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DasKfnqF3qM&t
 

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...Snake, this is supposed to be a thread for good boys and girls.
I didn't bring it up to sexually vent. I bring it up because these feelings are causing me to have a full blown identity crisis that I feel like I need to work through but can't since it happened AFTER I saw my therapist this morning.
 
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