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I still doubt Tekken because of the whole issue Sakurai has on implementing the game's 3d gameplay into Smash. It's more complicated than Ridley's size that's for sure.
Sakurai can still focus on the differences between 2D and 3D fighters that aren't just 3D movement.
 

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We also still don't have the Geno, MMX, MM.EXE Mii costumes yet either. On top of the Llyod and Heihachi ones.



I mean....yeah. But you gotta understand Wade, I'm much closer to Tekken than I am SC.

Still, people called Terry hat Ken. ****** think a Mishima would play similarly to Ryu. So if it was Nightmare, people would just say he's another Fire Emblem character. Which yes, that feeling in your head after reading that was a stroke.



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In total we're missing X, EXE, Jacky, Akira, Heihachi, Lloyd, Monster Hunter, Rathalos Hunter, Geno, Chocobo, and Gil
 
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The big :bigthink: is what Mii costumes are we still missing.

Not all will return, but there are some outliers whose absence is very alerting.
Looking through the list, we're missing Geno, Chocobo, Gil, Heihachi, Lloyd, Akira, Jacky, Mega Man X, Mega Man Exe., and Monster Hunter (both the Generic and Rathalos).

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Sakurai can still focus on the differences between 2D and 3D fighters that aren't just 3D movement.
One way I wanted the Tekken characters to be implemented was with chain attacks and dail-a-combos. So while you have your AAA, maybe they also have AAB, ABA, ABB ect ect.

Of course depeding on the move, they could also implement motions, like an SRK-ish motion for an EWGF. Otherwise, their spot dodge could be a side-step.
 

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Smash games already have a Rage mechanic(probably because Namco's made the last 2 games, and they've had Rage in Tekken since 6), In T7, Rage could be consumed for one of two moves. I doubt a full-on super move for Rage would be used, but an EX version of an attack per stock could be considered as well. Though I don't think that speaks fully to Tekken as much as the combo strings, juggles or side stepping all do on their own, let alone together.
 

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What's a garbage game from your childhood that you're a little nostalgic for?

I remember thinking that Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects was the **** back when I was a kid, although that's probably because I was easily impressed by anything containing my favorite superheroes.
 

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I’d be PSYCHED if we got Lloyd. I really enjoyed Tales of Symphonia when I played it.

Have to say though, a friend of mine made a good point. Harada is in close contact with the Smash team, as his dudes are partially working on Smash with Namco on the team.

It would be easy, and worth it, to get that Heihachi costume again. If it’s not there for Terry’s demo video, then it might mean something.

Really makes you think. If it had to come down to Heihachi and Lloyd, I feel like you have to add Heihachi. It’s freaking Heihachi.

Or it’s all nothing and Namco doesn’t get any DLC.
 
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I’d be PSYCHED if we got Lloyd. I really enjoyed Tales of Symphonia when I played it.

Have to say though, a friend of mine made a good point. Harada is in close contact with the Smash team, as his dudes are partially working on Smash with Namco on the team.

It would be easy, and worth it, to get that Heihachi costume again. If it’s not there for Terry’s demo video, then it might mean something.

Really makes you think. If it had to come down to Heihachi and Lloyd, I feel like you have to add Heihachi. It’s freaking Heihachi.

Or it’s all nothing and Namco doesn’t get any DLC.
Smh already throwing robowaifu under the bus.

For shame, Teach.
 

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One way I wanted the Tekken characters to be implemented was with chain attacks and dail-a-combos. So while you have your AAA, maybe they also have AAB, ABA, ABB ect ect.

Of course depeding on the move, they could also implement motions, like an SRK-ish motion for an EWGF. Otherwise, their spot dodge could be a side-step.
I was thinking he'd get something that works similarly to Marth's side-B, and attempting to use the short hop aerial macro would instead make him do a hopkick. He would ideally also have exclusive moves that overwrite the AB Smash input like Raijin Stance.
 
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I’d be PSYCHED if we got Lloyd. I really enjoyed Tales of Symphonia when I played it.

Have to say though, a friend of mine made a good point. Harada is in close contact with the Smash team, as his dudes are partially working on Smash with Namco on the team.

It would be easy, and worth it, to get that Heihachi costume again. If it’s not there for Terry’s demo video, then it might mean something.

Really makes you think. If it had to come down to Heihachi and Lloyd, I feel like you have to add Heihachi. It’s freaking Heihachi.

Or it’s all nothing and Namco doesn’t get any DLC.
It be really weird to see 2 fighting game fighters on the pass and doesn't seem to likely imo.

Sakurai treated Ryu pretty special back in 4 making a whole presentation to mostly just break him down( Roy was a vet and didn't need much explaining).

Terryis getting the same treatment, but this time Sakurai has done similar with the previous fighters. Still Sakurai seems to really like getting fighting game characters in, so I don't think he'd focus on more then one of them at a time with all the work he puts into replicating these characters completely as if they came and played straight out of their respective fighting games.
 
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What's a garbage game from your childhood that you're a little nostalgic for?

I remember thinking that Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects was the **** back when I was a kid, although that's probably because I was easily impressed by anything containing my favorite superheroes.
Lego Ninjago DS.
****ing garbage gameplay-wise, but man did I love it.
 

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Smh already throwing robowaifu under the bus.

For shame, Teach.
I wouldn’t rule her out. I just don’t think they’d pick her over Tekken or Tales.

It’s not about a “Namco pick”. It’s about where the character comes from and who they are. I am sure she’d be great, but we’re talking about the guy with the iconic hairdo from Tekken, and the Tales of protagonist most people recognize, and that popularized the series in the West.

I just see them as more likely.

It be really weird to see 2 fighting game fighters on the pass and doesn't seem to likely imo.

Sakurai treated Ryu pretty special back in 4 making a whole presentation to mostly just break him down( Roy was a vet and didn't need much explaining).

Terryis getting the same treatment, but this time Sakurai has done similar with the previous fighters. Still Sakurai seems to really like getting fighting game characters in, so I don't think he'd focus on more then one of them at a time with all the work he puts into replicating these characters completely as if they came and played straight out of their respective fighting games.
Why would 2 Fighting game characters be weird when we got Persona and Dragon Quest, two JRPG characters, back to back?

There’s no guarantee that Heihachi gets covered right after Terry if he’s in the game. I don’t really think that would rule Heihachi out.
 
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What's a garbage game from your childhood that you're a little nostalgic for?

I remember thinking that Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects was the **** back when I was a kid, although that's probably because I was easily impressed by anything containing my favorite superheroes.
M&Ms Kart racing.

It was super ugly for a wii game, the sound effects were obnoxious, and it was a glitchy mess, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't spend a whole lotta hours into that game

I have fond memories of glitching out the sea carrier track with my siblings
 
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I wouldn’t rule her out. I just don’t think they’d pick her over Tekken or Tales.

It’s not about a “Namco pick”. It’s about where the character comes from and who they are. I am sure she’d be great, but we’re talking about the guy with the iconic hairdo from Tekken, and the Tales of protagonist most people recognize, and that popularized the series in the West.

I just see them as more likely.
By doing so, it'll be great, though it'll tick off the female demographic.
 

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I wouldn’t rule her out. I just don’t think they’d pick her over Tekken or Tales.

It’s not about a “Namco pick”. It’s about where the character comes from and who they are. I am sure she’d be great, but we’re talking about the guy with the iconic hairdo from Tekken, and the Tales of protagonist most people recognize, and that popularized the series in the West.

I just see them as more likely.
I mean, so do I.


Although it means nothing 'as of yet', this stuff just 'looks' Smash-like to me.


https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/1181637387056758784?s=19
 

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In terms of potential female DLC fighters, I’m definitely not opposed to KOS-MOS but I personally think at the moment, characters like Jill Valentine and Lara Croft feel like they have a better chance.
 
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I mean, so do I.


Although it means nothing 'as of yet', this stuff just 'looks' Smash-like to me.


https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/1181637387056758784?s=19
Now THAT, we can agree on.

When I saw those I had to question what it was for. While I don’t want to assume it’s Smash, it could very well be the series icon and the “Tales of series” thing could be for Mii costumes.

As we’ve said many times, time will tell!
 

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KOS-MOS sounds like a more interesting choice to me than both Heihachi and Lloyd. If you are gonna pick a Mishima, I personally think Kazuya would be the most interesting.
 
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In terms of potential female DLC fighters, I’m definitely not opposed to KOS-MOS but I personally think at the moment, characters like Jill Valentine and Lara Croft feel like they have a better chance.
I say Lara Croft is less likely than Jill. I mean, she is from Square Enix, and unless the next character from that company is her, I doubt she may get in at all.

Please don't kill me, @Lesley Black Velvet .
 
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KOS-MOS sounds like a more interesting choice to me than both Heihachi and Lloyd. If you are gonna pick a Mishima, I personally think Kazuya would be the most interesting.
I'm leaning more on Heihachi such that we have a third-party character who isn't necessarily the "hero" of their game.
 

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Now THAT, we can agree on.

When I saw those I had to question what it was for. While I don’t want to assume it’s Smash, it could very well be the series icon and the “Tales of series” thing could be for Mii costumes.

As we’ve said many times, time will tell!
The "Tales of Series" just looks like what is shown when showing off Mii Costumes.

Like so

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The other looks like a series icon.
 
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I say Lara Croft is less likely than Jill. I mean, she is from Square Enix, and unless the next character from that company is her, I doubt she may get in at all.

Please don't kill me, @Lesley Black Velvet .
Any female character is fine in my book. That being said, my most wanted has barely any chances of happening at all T^T

Same with Nightmare for me.
I'll give street cred to Nightmare since he makes up for his badass design.
 
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Maybe they should add one of those in this game and then the other one later in a future Smash game. That way, we'd get two villain characters from two different third party games instead of heroes.
The villain argument is pretty much on the same boat as the female argument.
 

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I wouldn’t rule her out. I just don’t think they’d pick her over Tekken or Tales.

It’s not about a “Namco pick”. It’s about where the character comes from and who they are. I am sure she’d be great, but we’re talking about the guy with the iconic hairdo from Tekken, and the Tales of protagonist most people recognize, and that popularized the series in the West.

I just see them as more likely.


Why would 2 Fighting game characters be weird when we got Persona and Dragon Quest, two JRPG characters, back to back?

There’s no guarantee that Heihachi gets covered right after Terry if he’s in the game. I don’t really think that would rule Heihachi out.
That was my point though.
I’m not ruling him out, just I don’t think he would be this pass.

Sakurai seems to give even more attention to the characters from fighting games compared to other reps. And because if that extra attention to detail I find it unlikely if I’m Heihachi would take a slot five. We know Sakurai saw it as a lot of hard work to try and implement Heihachi accurately, so given the higher amount
Likely going to terry as week, developing the two side by side would be a challenge. I would even say that especially with Sakurai and his hand issues.
It be easier to focus on Heihachi down the line rather then side by side another fighting game character imo. I’m not ruling Heihachi out, just that I feel he’s unlikely for the current pass
 
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