O.... K..... honestly, that’s the kind of stuff that turns me off the other movies. Like, no joke, as a little kid, I saw one of the rami movie on tv or something, and decided from it that I didn’t like Spider-Man. The PS4 game made those aspects kind of interesting, but they’re also like, the smallest aspect of the overall narrative.
With the MCU, we have a Spider-Man who didn’t come first, for once. He has other heroes in his life this time to model his life after. Iron Man is essentially a father figure. It might not be traditional “Toby McGuire overacting while pretending to be in highschool at age 26” or whatever, but it’s a logical way for the character to go in the universe that they created. Because it’s a universe with a different setup.
But all of that is second fiddle to why I feel the MCU Spider-Man is the best. He’s the first one who actually felt like Spider-Man to me. When he first came on screen swinging around doing flips, making quips, and geeking out over the other heroes, that finally felt like I was watching Spider-Man fight on screen. Something I never got in either of the other two film series.
And for me, he doesn't feel like Spider-Man because "geeking out over other heroes" ISN'T what Spider-Man does. That doesn't feel like Spider-Man. That feels like Comic Miles at best, and 90% of other Teen Heroes at worst. And having another super hero as a father figure DOES take away from Spider-Man has his own person. I really can't stress this enough. A major draw of Spider-Man's conception is that he's not Robin or Supergirl. That's why many younger readers, when the start to have more responsibilities in their own lives, can see the exaggerated element of that in Spider-Man and get it. Peter can't or shouldn't be able to fall back on some other superhero when things get tough for him or build him his suit for him, since Pete's a pretty smart guy, he's got to do that **** on his own. They at least had him make his web-shooters. And there's barely any swinging scenes in Homecoming. Even ASM2 had a dope swinging scene so I don't even know what you're talking about.
I did like him in Civil War though. He got to do cool ****, and it didn't feel like Iron Man was too impactful to him as a character.
Spider-Man talks a lot of ****, fights on his own and has to deal with everyday issues from work, dating, family and friends. And to be fair, only the first Raimi film took place in highschool. And Tom Holland's still a 22 year old dude playing a high-schooler. Neither of which is a big deal because that happens all the time in Hollywood.
I'm not saying the Raimi films are perfect, far from it. That Spider-Man needed some more humor in his performance. And I think Organic Webs, while cool, take a bit away from showing his smarts. But it at least understands who Peter Parker is at a fundamental level, despite the hammy nature of some scenes. Peter in the comics isn't the first hero either, but he doesn't constantly try to impress the Avengers. He tries to do his best as his own hero and as his own man, introducing third parties to that, ones that aren't even his family sours the MCU version for me dramatically.
I think Spectacular Spider-Man's probably the best of the Spider-Man adaptations overall. It has the heart, the humor, the action, the music and Josh Keaton. And I do like the 90's series despite the pacing issues.
All I can say is that we've got different views on this, so I'll just agree to disagree if that's fine by you.