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Cutie Gwen

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Pretty sure the uploader blew itself up again


also I haven’t played either but isn’t Roy in both games of blazing and binding bade?
Blazing Blade has a cameo of him as a child as it's a prequel, he only appears at the end as that's when Eliwood settles down


Also Pokemon anime is bad actually
 

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I don't even understand why either side is complaining about cartoony characters and anime characters when Ultimate has been pretty even so far.

:ultinkling::ultdaisy::ultkrool::ultisabelle::ultincineroar::ultpiranha::ultbanjokazooie:
:ultchrom::ultken::ultjoker::ulthero:Terry

I'm not really sure where :ultridley::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultdarksamus: fall, but they wouldn't change much anyways.
 

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I don't even understand why either side is complaining about cartoony characters and anime characters when Ultimate has been pretty even so far.

:ultinkling::ultdaisy::ultkrool::ultisabelle::ultincineroar::ultpiranha::ultbanjokazooie:
:ultchrom::ultken::ultjoker::ulthero:Terry

I'm not really sure where :ultridley::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultdarksamus: fall, but they wouldn't change much anyways.
Because what I like is good and what others like is bad. And I feel the need to assert my superiority.
 
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I don't even understand why either side is complaining about cartoony characters and anime characters when Ultimate has been pretty even so far.

:ultinkling::ultdaisy::ultkrool::ultisabelle::ultincineroar::ultpiranha::ultbanjokazooie:
:ultchrom::ultken::ultjoker::ulthero:Terry

I'm not really sure where :ultridley::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultdarksamus: fall, but they wouldn't change much anyways.
Those four fall in the Metroidvania cathegory.
 

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I don't even understand why either side is complaining about cartoony characters and anime characters when Ultimate has been pretty even so far.

:ultinkling::ultdaisy::ultkrool::ultisabelle::ultincineroar::ultpiranha::ultbanjokazooie:
:ultchrom::ultken::ultjoker::ulthero:Terry

I'm not really sure where :ultridley::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultdarksamus: fall, but they wouldn't change much anyways.
The solution? Realistically designed human character! I’ve always wondered how Sakurai would handle a design like that.
 

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Or cartoony punchy dudes who we have just as much of as 'aneem swooerds', if not more
If you wanna be fair, those cartoony characters tend to have more varied movesets, whereas most of the "anime swordsmen" use their swords for almost every move. Like, Pac-Man has punches and kicks but can also summon the ghosts and use fruit, Wario can use his shoulder bash and his motorcycle, etc. I'd imagine that's why the swordfighters get hated on more.
 

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Can you believe were already through half of October? November nears every day and the closer we get to the final DLC fighter for this pass.
October's been a funny month so far.

Literally 99% of the population: October's back, which means halloween and trick or treating and pumpkin spice are back <3
Me, a weirdo: NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE IS BACK YEET

I do like how the weather's cooling down though. Wearing long sleeves feels really comfy in the evenings. When we reach November perhaps it'll be time to swap over to long sleeve full time until April and whatnot.
 
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If you wanna be fair, those cartoony characters tend to have more varied movesets, whereas most of the "anime swordsmen" use their swords for almost every move. Like, Pac-Man has punches and kicks but can also summon the ghosts and use fruit, Wario can use his shoulder bash and his motorcycle, etc. I'd imagine that's why the swordfighters get hated on more.
My problem relies mostly on the people who apply the "too human" or "too lacking for a moveset" with characters such as Pauline who do actually have a moveset potential and fit well enough.
 

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If you wanna be fair, those cartoony characters tend to have more varied movesets, whereas most of the "anime swordsmen" use their swords for almost every move. Like, Pac-Man has punches and kicks but can also summon the ghosts and use fruit, Wario can use his shoulder bash and his motorcycle, etc. I'd imagine that's why the swordfighters get hated on more.
You say that but when say, Cloud has more unique moves than a cartoon punchy, they still complain. They just hate swordfighters because they hate everything that isn't exactly what they want
 

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That being said, I do think there are still good options for Zelda characters, in an area that is currently untapped in Smash. While Zelda doesn't have many recurring characters, it does have recurring races. We've gotten Hylians (Link, Link, Link, and Zelda), Sheikah (Sheik), and Gerudo (Ganondorf), but we've yet to get any Gorons or Zora. The general Goron and Zora body types are things that aren't really seen in Smash, after all, and the natural abilities of those races work really well in moveset theory crafting. Yeah, Daruk and Darunia may not be recurring, but Gorons are. Mipha and Ruto may be one offs, but the Zora themselves aren't.
This is my biggest gri_e with how Zelda currently stands on the roster right now: not numbers of fighters or however long it's been since the last one, but that the current selection doesn't do justice to the series; you wouldn't be blamed for thinking that the series was mostly blonde elf _eo_le when it's 2 and 3 variations of the same characters
 
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This is my biggest gri_e with how Zelda currently stands on the roster right now: not numbers of fighters or however long it's been since the last one, but that the current selection doesn't do justice to the series; you wouldn't be blamed for thinking that the series was mostly blonde elf people when it's 2 and 3 variations of the same characters
You forgot the P’s in people ;)
 

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You say that but when say, Cloud has more unique moves than a cartoon punchy, they still complain. They just hate swordfighters because they hate everything that isn't exactly what they want
I don’t know where you were, but I saw nothing but happiness when Cloud got announced. Everyone was flipping out about how he changed the very idea of Smash eligibility as we knew it.
 

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The solution? Realistically designed human character! I’ve always wondered how Sakurai would handle a design like that.
We already have Snake.

If you wanna be fair, those cartoony characters tend to have more varied movesets, whereas most of the "anime swordsmen" use their swords for almost every move. Like, Pac-Man has punches and kicks but can also summon the ghosts and use fruit, Wario can use his shoulder bash and his motorcycle, etc. I'd imagine that's why the swordfighters get hated on more.
That doesn't explain why people hate on Corrin's moveset.
 

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We already have Snake.



That doesn't explain why people hate on Corrin's moveset.
Do people hate Corrin’s moveset? I never saw that.

I just thought people hated Corrin herself. Both because of Fates and because she’s another fremblem.
 

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It's circumstantial. While I will admit that I have more faith in cartoony characters being unique than swordfighters, that's not a hard rule. Robin is more unique than Isabelle.

But I don't think you can really get mad at someone for complaining about the Smash attacks and aerials of swordfighters being too similar. If you plan on using a sword for an attack, you're kinda limited to how unique you can make said attack. Even Sakurai himself voiced having a difficulty with making swordfighters feel unique.
 
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We already have Snake.



That doesn't explain why people hate on Corrin's moveset.
Snake is primarily based on his MGS1-3 look. While the series did take on a more realistic look as it went on, those first three games are still anime. Very grounded anime, but not as realistic as something like Uncharted or The Last of Us.
 
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Do people hate Corrin’s moveset? I never saw that.

I just thought people hated Corrin herself. Both because of Fates and because she’s another fremblem.
There are a lot of "they use a sword, so their unique moves doesn't count" arguments.
 

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Snake is primarily based on his MGS1-3 look. While the series did take on a more realistic look as it went on, those first three games are still anime. Very grounded anime, but not as realistic as something like Uncharted or The Last of Us.
"Anime"? I'm pretty sure they all use 3D models, and pretty realistic ones on top of that.
 
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I don’t know where you were, but I saw nothing but happiness when Cloud got announced. Everyone was flipping out about how he changed the very idea of Smash eligibility as we knew it.
Then you certainly didn't see how many people whined he looked too similar to Ike or that he's too anime and that we should have gotten a cartoony SE character
It's circumstantial. While I will admit that I have more faith in cartoony characters being unique than swordfighters, that's not a hard rule. Robin is more unique than Isabelle.

But I don't think you can really get mad at someone for complaining about the Smash attacks and aerials of swordfighters being too similar. If you plan on using a sword for an attack, you're kinda limited to how unique you can make it. Even Sakurai himself voiced having a difficulty with making swordfighters feel unique.
*looks at all the sword fighting styles completely absent in Smash as Smash generally uses finesse sword moves or generic slashes alongside the fact games like Guilty Gear or SamSho make their swordies extremely different with said styles*
Sure, Jan
 
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The Smash Fandom has been debating for months if Waluigi could get a Fighter moveset to the point that not even Smash Flash 2 could cease the debates by adding Waluigi to their roster.

And at the same time, the Smash fandom refuses to believe for the most part that Pauline has appeared outside Mario Odyssey and the DK arcade to believe she lacks moveset potential. Sometimes extending themselves to claim she is too human-like for a Switch port of 3D World.


Mario characters live in a society where they are oppressed.
 

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To be fair, I do really wish so many characters didn’t have counters. Even characters like King K. Rool and Joker. I can never get the timing right so it’s basically “strike a pose”. Wish they had actual... attacks.
The whole point of a counter is that they're for when you read what the opponent does and punish them accordingly.
They're pretty common in fighting games as a whole.
 

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Blazing Blade has a cameo of him as a child as it's a prequel, he only appears at the end as that's when Eliwood settles down


Also Pokemon anime is bad actually
That’s what I thought it was like since I knew one was eliwoods story. So I would say that kind of counts too
 
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