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Gentlepanda said:
my only regret with all this is how much of a hype bomb banjo would have been if he hadn't been leaked to hell and back just five days beforehand
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This is why I'm hoping we get a shock alongside him and it's not ''Oh, it's Erdrick. The other one we already been done known about."
 
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This is why I'm hoping we get a shock alongside him and it's not ''Oh, it's Erdrick. The other one we already been done known about."
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On the contrary.

If you delay Erdrick, that just takes a 'surprise' away from later.


Better to rip the band-aid off now and get it over with than just accept "Okay character 4/5 is Erdrick".



There's also the whole issue of:


Thus far, barring Echoes, every new character has been revealed in order of their "Everyone is here!" number.


And our DLC goes:


Piranha Plant > Joker > Brave
 
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Like I said I find it hard to believe two dlc characters leaked this easily when joker was kept extremely locked up and off every insiders radar.

Even though according to the logic people use Erdrick and him were worked on alongside eachother and Erdrick was planned to be first.

Which I don’t buy that. It’s prettt obvious joker was always meant to be the first fighter, he just got revealed earlier then Sakurai wanted to push saws. Which seemingly worked.

So how no one saw joker coming and yet every insider and their mother knows Erdrick is in when square is like Fort Knox when it comes to hiding things.

On top of that banjo was also leaked? It makes it very hard for me to believe all of these characters leaked.

I’m still going to maintain the theory that Erdrick isn’t coming. Banjo being brave works just as well, and would explain why only a few people knew of him. Because he would be the second reveal. Like joker he seems to have come out of nowhere and I believe that’s because he really is the second dlc and only just started to leak now because his release was close.

Meanwhile Erdrick ha supposedly been known about since base game. That feels ways to long of a time frame for me to believe personally. If people learned dlc that early, joker and banjo should have absolutely leaked then but they didn’t. Makes me think Erdrick is just bad misinformation that spread like wildfire. Square was a nightmare to negotiate with and they still barely gave us content in the base game. I’d be shocked if they got a character.

It won’t be long till we see, but I’m still on team Erdrick is unlikely. I’m not gonna complain if his in or look to argue, but that’s just my thoughts. If he’s in then again I’m glad for people that want him. Personally I think it just is unlikely.
 
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Like I said I find it hard to believe two dlc characters leaked this easily when joker was kept extremely locked up and off every insiders radar.

Even though according to the logic people use Erdrick and him were worked on alongside eachother and Erdrick was planned to be first.

Which I don’t buy that. It’s prettt obvious joker was always meant to be the first fighter, he just got revealed earlier then Sakurai wanted to push saws. Which seemingly worked.

So how no one saw joker coming and yet every insider and their mother knows Erdrick is in when square is like Fort Knox when it comes to hiding things.

On top of that banjo was also leaked? It makes it very hard for me to believe all of these characters leaked.

I’m still going to maintain the theory that Erdrick isn’t coming. Banjo being brave works just as well, and would explain why only a few people knew of him. Because he would be the second reveal. Like joker he seems to have come out of nowhere and I believe that’s because he really is the second dlc and only just started to leak now because his release was close.

Meanwhile Erdrick ha supposedly been known about since base game. That feels ways to long of a time frame for me to believe personally. If people learned dlc that early, joker and banjo should have absolutely leaked then but they didn’t. Makes me think Erdrick is just bad misinformation that spread like wildfire. Square was a nightmare to negotiate with and they still barely gave us content in the base game. I’d be shocked if they got a character.

It won’t be long till we see, but I’m still on team Erdrick is unlikely. I’m not gonna complain if his in or look to argue, but that’s just my thoughts. If he’s in then again I’m glad for people that want him. Personally I think it just is unlikely.
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"That feels way too long"


I mean, no, not really?


Piranha Plant was worked on alongside the base game, and we've already seen that Joker and Brave had data on the release day disc, meaning that they at the very least had planning stages ready to go.


And I don't see how "Brave = Banjo" at all. The only connection is they start with B.



Pakkun was Piranha Plant, since that's literally it's Japanese name.


Jack and Doyle were Joker and Arsene, a playing card and a detective author(which is ironic since Arsene's a thief)


What the **** does Brave mean to Banjo besides the flimsy logic of "He's brave"?
 
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Shroob said:
"That feels way too long"


I mean, no, not really?


Piranha Plant was worked on alongside the base game, and we've already seen that Joker and Brave had data on the release day disc, meaning that they at the very least had planning stages ready to go.


And I don't see how "Brave = Banjo" at all. The only connection is they start with B.
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I could understand having a codename ready, but I highly doubt that 2 months away from release, plant, joker, and Erdrick or a third character were worked on. That was when the rumors for a square rep and Minecraft starting circulating. Leading people confused because box theory gained a lot of traction then. There is no way joker and brave had models then. Plant still needed to be polished although it was pretty far along. We also know from the reddit beta tester leaker plant was the only one in working condition. Neither of the other two characters had physically signs of existing.

Meaning they weren’t ready for beta testing which they certainly shouldn’t have been at that time. But the point is those rumors shouldn’t have known any specific character at that time period. If anything maybe joker but as we saw that wasn’t the case.

With how tight secruity on the pass is, stuff leaking that early doesn’t add up to me. As for the brave equals banjo thing though. The codename itself doesn’t seem to be obvious, but we only have two other codenames to work with. Jokers was a symbol, and plants was it’s actually name. For all we know brave is a description of a trait the character has or something else. My main point for that was that people thought the stars worked for banjo especially the side or whatever it was brave had. Which I’m not saying he is brave, but I could see it.

I do find it interesting though when I think about it how Jon from GX bought up how banjo was likely the second character and that he thinks chrono trigger is coming to switch.

That’s just a side note but something I thought about that could be neat. What if there actually is a square rep and it was chrono? Two classic third parties as E3 choices would be pretty nice actually. But that’s just something random and unrelated to the previous points really. I’m heading to bed though.
 
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I'm kinda trying to avoid likely true leaks again. At least for E3. I couldn't care less about anything involving Erdrick since discussions over him have been hammered into the ground by this point in time, but everything else? Nope.avi.

Guess I should steer clear of here for a few days?
 
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Z25 said:
I could understand having a codename ready, but I highly doubt that 2 months away from release, plant, joker, and Erdrick or a third character were worked on. That was when the rumors for a square rep and Minecraft starting circulating. Leading people confused because box theory gained a lot of traction then. There is no way joker and brave had models then. Plant still needed to be polished although it was pretty far along. We also know from the reddit beta tester leaker plant was the only one in working condition. Neither of the other two characters had physically signs of existing.

Meaning they weren’t ready for beta testing which they certainly shouldn’t have been at that time. But the point is those rumors shouldn’t have known any specific character at that time period. If anything maybe joker but as we saw that wasn’t the case.

With how tight secruity on the pass is, stuff leaking that early doesn’t add up to me. As for the brave equals banjo thing though. The codename itself doesn’t seem to be obvious, but we only have two other codenames to work with. Jokers was a symbol, and plants was it’s actually name. For all we know brave is a description of a trait the character has or something else. My main point for that was that people thought the stars worked for banjo especially the side or whatever it was brave had. Which I’m not saying he is brave, but I could see it.

I do find it interesting though when I think about it how Jon from GX bought up how banjo was likely the second character and that he thinks chrono trigger is coming to switch.

That’s just a side note but something I thought about that could be neat. What if there actually is a square rep and it was chrono? Two classic third parties as E3 choices would be pretty nice actually. But that’s just something random and unrelated to the previous points really. I’m heading to bed though.
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They had base stats in the game. Yes, base stats change from patch to patch, but they had a ground work. Models? No, but they had parameters to start with set.

"The trait of a character" This logic is stupidly faulty, I'm sorry. If it happens, I'll yield, but there is a character that the entire nation of Japan flat out calls "Brave" via namesake.
 
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my only regret with all this is how much of a hype bomb banjo would have been if he hadn't been leaked to hell and back just five days beforehand
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People will probably still get really excited for the reveal because just like :ultridley: and :ultkrool: he's been a "never-ever" character for so long that they're not gonna believe he's in until Nintendo shows him off themselves.
****, even I'm not convinced he's actually gonna be in, even with all of the insiders and leakers coming out and backing the rumors over the week.
 
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People really are thinking too hard about these code names.


Jack and Doyle makes perfect sense in hindsight.


A Jack is a suite of card, and a Joker is a card.

Doyle means Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, aka Sherlock's author, and Arsene is a fictional thief.



These codenames aren't some **** like "What if the character.....has X trait..."


There's actually a logic to these names.
 
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the only codename that doesn't have a clear connection yet is jane/kasumi, and even that's probably only because it relates more to her currently-unknown thief codename than actual name (like how jack connects to joker but not ren)

brave and banjo, meanwhile, have no connection whatsoever beyond being alliterative

this **** ain't meant to be deep, it's just a way for the devs to mask actual character names at their most basic levels while still being easy to remember and reference to internally
 
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the only codename that doesn't have a clear connection yet is jane/kasumi, and even that's probably only because it relates more to her currently-unknown thief codename than actual name (like how jack connects to joker but not ren)

brave and banjo, meanwhile, have no connection whatsoever beyond being alliterative

this **** ain't meant to be deep, it's just a way for the devs to mask actual character names at their most basic levels while still being easy to remember and reference to internally
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I've grown weary of the "Okay but what if it means that the character is really brave?!" argument, because, that's literally every single video game character in the history of existence.


These names ain't rocket science, they're just short code names that play into the character's identity. If Brave is Erdrick, it may be on the nose, but Brave literally is Hero, the whole Yuusha=Brave ****.


There is 0 logic as to why BANJO would be Brave, aside from "....they're both 5 letter B words."
 
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It could just be you guys are overthinking it. :213:

They worked on several characters at once as stated by that translated book (characters 2/3 alongside Joker and what we now assume was Stage Builder). I think it's totally possible they changed up the order, or even changed file names entirely. Jack/Brave got taken out in 2.0, which was nearly 5 months ago now. Plenty could have changed.
 
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It could just be you guys are overthinking it. :213:

They worked on several characters at once as stated by that translated book (characters 2/3 alongside Joker and what we now assume was Stage Builder). I think it's totally possible they changed up the order, or even changed file names entirely. Jack/Brave got taken out in 2.0, which was nearly 5 months ago now. Plenty could have changed.
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Plausible, but until further notice, we won't know.

We know Brave comes after Joker, and all we have to go off of is how they released characters via the base roster, which match up internally with how they're listed in the files.
 
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Funny thing about this codename stuff is that, if we didn't already know Joker was coming, very few people would've made the connection between Jack and Joker since, like Brave, many things could fit under Jack due to being a pretty common name/epithet such as Raiden from MGS, Jack Wynand from Bioshock, or Jak and Daxter just to name a few.
 
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Man, E3 coming soon really gave quit the BOOST POWAH to this thread, didn't it?:falconmelee:
 
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Funny thing about this codename stuff is that, if we didn't already know Joker was coming, very few people would've made the connection between Jack and Joker since, like Brave, many things could fit under Jack due to being a pretty common name/epithet such as Raiden from MGS, Jack Wynand from Bioshock, or Jak and Daxter just to name a few.
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The thing about Jack though is that Doyle was always there, we just didn't have anything at the time to tell us during the initial datamine iirc.


People would have eventually realized it was more of a "2 in 1" kinda deal, which would have limited who it could have been significantly if Doyle was found earlier.......and well, had Joker not been our first revealed.


Jack may have been hard to figure out, yes, but Doyle.... well I think most people would have instantly thought of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, which is the correct way to think in this case.
 
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Shroob said:
"That feels way too long"


I mean, no, not really?


Piranha Plant was worked on alongside the base game, and we've already seen that Joker and Brave had data on the release day disc, meaning that they at the very least had planning stages ready to go.


And I don't see how "Brave = Banjo" at all. The only connection is they start with B.



Pakkun was Piranha Plant, since that's literally it's Japanese name.


Jack and Doyle were Joker and Arsene, a playing card and a detective author(which is ironic since Arsene's a thief)


What the **** does Brave mean to Banjo besides the flimsy logic of "He's brave"?
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Doyle actually has a deeper connection to Arsene than that, Doyle wrote Sherlock Holmes and was upset at the writer of Arsene Lupin using his character.

Lupin's write of course, just renamed him Herlock Sholmes to avoid legal issues
 
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Doyle actually has a deeper connection to Arsene than that, Doyle wrote Sherlock Holmes and was upset at the writer of Arsene Lupin using his character.

Lupin's write of course, just renamed him Herlock Sholmes to avoid legal issues
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I actually legit didn't know that.

Thanks Gwen.
 
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Okay, so. @Graizen just informed me of an image leak involving
Erdrick and Byleth.

Apparently, the leak hasn't gotten here yet (or it has and people have already discussed it).

I wanted to relay my two cents on the matter.
While the Erdrick leak may or may not be real. The Byleth leak is 100% fake.

For one simple fact.

The name is wrong.

ベレト (Bereto) is the name of the Male Byleth.
ベレス (Beresu) is the name of the Female Byleth.

That's clearly the male Byleth. Nintendo would not make this mistake.

The thing is, all three of these images were posted by the same person, so if the Byleth one is fake (and it more than likely is), then the Erdrick one is probably also fake.
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Erdrick's left-handed?
 
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