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I don’t know. The anime i’ve seen (the popular stuff. DBZ, MHA, OPM, FT, AoT, SAO, etc.) all have very similar design choices and character tropes.
No joke or sarcasm here, the Gregory Horror Show is an anime that disproves the argument

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It may be a CGi show and look vastly different from DB or Naruto, but this is an animated series 100% made in Japan which just happens to have a huge chunk of creativity behind it.

And since it was japanese animation, it is indeed an anime. So we can say to some extent that the “anime artstyle” is just a stretched excuse.
 

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I don’t know. The anime i’ve seen (the popular stuff. DBZ, MHA, OPM, FT, AoT, SAO, etc.) all have very similar design choices and character tropes.
Because literally all of them are shounen anime. It's like watching only superhero movies and saying all live action movies are the same.
 

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I don’t know. The anime i’ve seen (the popular stuff. DBZ, MHA, OPM, FT, AoT, SAO, etc.) all have very similar design choices and character tropes.
Those animes looke Mother****ing.NOTHING alike.

Im sorry but Are you sure this isnt just you being ignorent?
 
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So yeah anime productions don’t always look the exact same way, and the Gregory Horror Show is honestly the best example of that.

If you think all animes ever produced tend to look the same, you should honestly do more research.
 

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Zelda was always anime.

Literally most of the entire cast is "anime" because they have been animated by Japanese studios. Mario? He's a ****ing japanese character who's wacky and zany kinda like a looney tunes character. He's totally an anime fighter.

****. Look at ****ing Peach. Don't tell me she doesn't have "anime eyes" (which most of the female cast have btw). These characters are mostly influenced and directly manufactured by Japanese culture and ****. Yes, sone characters do have inspirations of other countries in mind like Mario, but they merely stop at little references

Last I heard, all it took to qualify as "anime" was being an animated character made within Japan, which is quite literally every character that's not from a western company. If you wanna say "big and/or chibi eyes" are a part of the aesthetic, then that still fits most of the damn cast

Imagine calling a game made by a Japanese company that boasts a ton of Japanese IPs from their own library "too anime"
 

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I don’t know. The anime i’ve seen (the popular stuff. DBZ, MHA, OPM, FT, AoT, SAO, etc.) all have very similar design choices and character tropes.
Aside from the standard "puppet mouth" used in anime, the animation styles are all somewhat different. SAO is A-1 pictures, which specializes in fluid animation and bright colors. DBZ was produced by Toei, which is known for producing "retro" anime that have a classic animation style to it. MHA is produced by Studio Bones, which specializes bright colors and character designs that "pop". The problem here is that you're assuming that all animation in anime is exactly the same when the differences in animation are noticable.

And out of those, you listed many shonen (action) shows. All of them are action shows, actually. Within your list, the trope list per show has a few similarities, but there are differences that you should probably give some credit to. For example: Attack on Titan is VERY gritty and is popular among adults due to the in-depth, complex story that is present within the show. On the other hand, shows like DBZ and MHA are aimed at younger teens with far more comedic and/or straightforward storylines. Not to mention that there are plenty of other genres in anime, as osby osby said. Potentially the best anime of all time; Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is basically a mixture of steampunk action and also drama. Clannad is one of the most well-known romance anime out there, and it's second half is notably well-received to the point where the first half is over-shadowed, even if part 1 is decent too. There are other genres like sitcom (Lucky Star) or horror/thriller (Higurashi), but the bottom line is that you should probably open up your mind more and not generalize so much. It's inaccurate.
 
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Zelda was always anime.

Literally most of the entire cast is "anime" because they have been animated by Japanese studios. Mario? He's a ****ing japanese character who's wacky and zany kinda like a looney tunes character. He's totally an anime fighter.

****. Look at ****ing Peach. Don't tell me she doesn't have "anime eyes" (which most of the female cast have btw). These characters are mostly influenced and directly manufactured by Japanese culture and ****. Yes, sone characters do have inspirations of other countries in mind like Mario, but they merely stop at little references

Last I heard, all it took to qualify as "anime" was being an animated character made within Japan, which is quite literally every character that's not from a western company. If you wanna say "big and/or chibi eyes" are a part of the aesthetic, then that still fits most of the damn cast

Imagine calling a game made by a Japanese company that boasts a ton of Japanese IPs from their own library "too anime"
And as I showcased, the artstyle of many anime productions can get as creative and different from the stuff most people know as a western animated production. Yet again, as the Gregory Horror Show is an example of.

Mario is as “anime” as any character from a JRPG just for the sole basis of being a ficitional character made in Japan.

The only characters who aren’t really “anime” as those kinds of people tend to say are Banjo, Diddy Kong and Dark Samus.
 

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Tbh, DB doesn't fall into the whole anime trope. Aside from the puppet mouth, everything is far more rounded and, aside from like, Bulma, all of them don't have the traditional "Anime Eyes"
 
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I can imagine some people having doubts about my claims regarding Gregory Horror Show, since the artstyle is indeed pretty special for the show itself.

However, Wikipedia itself does also cathegorize it as an anime due to the show being made in Japan and in a huger part by japanese minds behind it:

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Hey y'all today and next few days might be rainy so expect to see me here more often this week. Besides having wiped down the house already and going later for an job interview for a second job I'll be here pretty much all day.

What we discussing currently?
 

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Aside from the standard "puppet mouth" used in anime, the animation styles are all somewhat different. SAO is A-1 pictures, which specializes in fluid animation and bright colors. DBZ was produced by Toei, which is known for producing "retro" anime that have a classic animation style to it. MHA is produced by Studio Bones, which specializes bright colors and character designs that "pop". The problem here is that you're assuming that all animation in anime is exactly the same when the differences in animation are noticable.

And out of those, you listed many shonen (action) shows. All of them are action shows, actually. Within your list, the trope list per show has a few similarities, but there are differences that you should probably give some credit to. For example: Attack on Titan is VERY gritty and is popular among adults due to the in-depth, complex story that is present within the show. On the other hand, shows like DBZ and MHA are aimed at younger teens with far more comedic and/or straightforward storylines. Not to mention that there are plenty of other genres in anime, as osby osby said. Potentially the best anime of all time; Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is basically a mixture of steampunk action and also drama. Clannad is one of the most well-known romance anime out there, and it's second half is notably well-received to the point where the first half is over-shadowed, even if part 1 is decent too. There are other genres like sitcom (Lucky Star) or horror/thriller (Higurashi), but the bottom line is that you should probably open up your mind more and not generalize so much. It's inaccurate.
I don’t know. I still think they all look alike.

Also, it’s very weird to me that all of the popular anime’s in America are all of the same genre (excluding Miyazaki’s films, those are definitely not action movies. And I wish I had remembered it sooner). Like, if you ask an average American to name an anime, it will be one of those action shows. Which is what probably leads to this whole homogeneous western idea of anime.

Also also, can we all just stop to remember that there’s a dlc stage based on Attack on Titan in Dead or Alive 5.
 
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Just happened to find a cursed image today:

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I don’t know. I still think they all look alike.

Also, it’s very weird to me that all of the popular anime’s in America are all of the same genre (excluding Miyazaki’s films, those are definitely not action movies. And I wish I had remembered it sooner). Like, if you ask an average American to name an anime, it will be one of those action shows. Which is what probably leads to this whole homogeneous western idea of anime.

Also also, can we all just stop to remember that there’s a dlc stage based on Attack on Titan in Dead or Alive 5.
What can I even do when you use the argument of "I don't know"? It's a dead end and leads literally nowhere.

Then, broaden your horizons. Just broaden them; try something new. You realize that there's more out there to anime by saying that the idea that anime is only action is a "western" idea whether you admit it or not, so why not try something new that isn't action? Like drama or romance or horror?

Then again, that's up to you.
 

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What can I even do when you use the argument of "I don't know"? It's a dead end and leads literally nowhere.

Then, broaden your horizons. Just broaden them; try something new. You realize that there's more out there to anime by saying that the idea that anime is only action is a "western" idea whether you admit it or not, so why not try something new that isn't action? Like drama or romance or horror?

Then again, that's up to you.
I mean. I don’t really watch the stuff. I’ve tried out episodes here and there of the things I hear get praise. But I always stop watching because of similar problems. The ones I shared above.

How come none of these other types of anime get any kind of traction in mainstream American media is my question.
 
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A-1 pictures, which specializes in fluid animation and bright colors.
Not only is that not true, it does a disservice to studios like Bones that have some of the most fluid animation in all of the industry
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And this is just one of the many examples I could give
 
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Not only is that not true, it does a disservice to studios like Bones that have some of the most fluid animation in all of the industry
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And this is just one of the many examples I could give
Shish no. Edelgard isn't worth it.

But on a serious note, if we're gushing over animation, Mob Psycho 100 and One Punch Man Season 1 will always have a place in my heart.



 

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I mean. I don’t really watch the stuff. I’ve tried out episodes here and there of the things I hear get praise. But I always stop watching because of similar problems. The ones I shared above.

How come none of these other types of anime get any kind of traction in mainstream American media is my question.
What would be a good idea is trying out at least one full season of each show before you jump to conclusions. And the greatest part of each show is the story being told, not the animation style. The animation style is just icing on the cake, but the story and characters is the cake itself.

And why? Because us 'Muricans love action. It's marketable and a smart strategy to market action shows. While over in Japan, aside from the BIG dogs of shonen shows, shojo (romance) and quieter, more subtle shows get more traction. It's a cultural thing.
 

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What would be a good idea is trying out at least one full season of each show before you jump to conclusions. And the greatest part of each show is the story being told, not the animation style. The animation style is just icing on the cake, but the story and characters is the cake itself.

And why? Because us 'Muricans love action. It's marketable and a smart strategy to market action shows. While over in Japan, aside from the BIG dogs of shonen shows, shojo (romance) and quieter, more subtle shows get more traction. It's a cultural thing.
Coincidentally, I’m not a huge fan of icing either. You gotta have a thin as **** later of it or else it overwhelms the cake with nothing but pure horrid sugar. I feel there’s a kind of metaphor there.

Okay but Americans like comedy too. Probably more than action. And there’s a sizable market for more dramatic shows too. dramas are pretty popular, it’s why my mom watches shows like Grey’s Anatomy. My point is, the market for these kinds of shows in America is far from nonexistent. And if they want this stereotype removed than maybe they should try to actually show us some of these things. Like Miyazaki’s movies. Those were doing great over here, thanks to Disney they were getting full theatrical releases.
 
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Coincidentally, I’m not a huge fan of icing either. You gotta have a thin as **** later of it or else it overwhelms the cake with nothing but pure horrid sugar. I feel there’s a kind of metaphor there.
Not sure what you're implying. Are you saying too much animation is a bad thing? Can you give examples of what you're saying too? It'd make things easier for everybody here.
 
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The thing that gets me as far as the "anime Smash characters" thing is concerned is this.

The Legend of Zelda, Kid Icarus, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and Dragon Quest would all fall into this category, that category being "standard anime-style humans" (honestly I'd even put Samus here), but all of their characters have wildly different artstyles to where I'm honestly baffled by how some can think they're all from the same franchise.
 
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