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[SnakeFighter64]

I have no idea why you are like this normally, Nintendo being Japanese does not really have any impact to other companies.

I'll check later, thanks.

.......

I need to... I.. *sighs* I don’t even know anymore.

 

[Metal Shop X]

And the universe spited me back by having them be the only company actually interested in my favorite genres anymore.

At the risk of coming off racist, I just want more American games. I want more american made fighting games, and hack n slashes, and platformers, and plenty of other genres that I’m not into. There’s just a different flavor to content made in each respective region and I don’t like Japanese food. I mean, I can put up with it when it’s the only thing on the menu, but I’d much rather go to the burger place down town. Oh wait, I can’t go there anymore because “the market shifted” and now all they do is make quinoa salads because it’s “more artistic” and “better for you”. Makes me wanna throw up.

...what?

You know Nintendo being a succeful company doesn't mean that other video game Americain company can't have their part of the cake too, right?

 

[TheMightyP]

Sure. The company is. But most of their big first party franchises are made by American studios. Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Sony Santa Monica, etc. They’re all american studios.

Well, if it makes you feel better, modern day DK and Metroid are pretty much dumped onto American Studios.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Sure. The company is. But most of their big first party franchises are made by American studios. Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Sony Santa Monica, etc. They’re all american studios.

Nintendo's got some western studios too, ya know...

Retro Studios for one.

And while they don't necessarily own Next Level Games, they are planning to work exclusively with Nintendo from now on.

 

[TheMightyP]

Speaking of Next Level Games, new Mario Strikers please?

 

[MSmariosonic]

I usually prefer Japanese gaming franchises

Though the other exceptions are owned by a Japanese company

 

[DerpingPikachu]

Morning everyone, what’s happenin?

 

[TheMightyP]

I honestly don't care where my games come from lol.

With that said, I don't like when people complain that western games are "too
political", and then treat Japanese games as the Holy Grail of apolitical games that never "get woke", that's lame and isn't even true in the slightest.

 

[Z25]

This is better then it should be:

 

[Opossum]

I just thought this was neat.

Basically Claude takes a ton of inspiration from ancient Persian and Turkish culture as opposed to the Western European flair that most Fire Emblem lords get. Also notable that he's one of the very few important explicitly-middle eastern Nintendo characters, alongside Bald Bull and possibly Ganondorf/the Gerudo (though they're a bit more of a hodgepodge).

Nifty.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Speaking of Next Level Games, new Mario Strikers please?

The Mario Strikers games were something special for sure.

They had this sort of edge to them that I'm kinda surprised Nintendo even approved of.

That, and I absolutely loved how they gave each captain their own style of theme music in Charged.

Whoever proposed the idea of giving Waluigi bluegrass needs a pay raise.

Really hope we get another one. Would love to see Rosalina and others join in on the fun.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

...what?

You know Nintendo being a succeful company doesn't mean that other video game Americain company can't have their part of the cake too, right?

It sure feels like it sometimes. No matter what anyone else does, they struggle to sell and maintain an audience without dumbing down/ruining their series. Or filling it up with micro transactions that make the game unplayable.

Meanwhile all Nintendo has to do is sneeze and it will sell millions. Even if it’s not good. It’s the same problem I have with Disney.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Whoever proposed the idea of giving Waluigi bluegrass needs a pay raise.

And Luigi got that super weird pick in music. Music that is the total opposite of his canon ethnicity and race. But it was a banger tho

 

[Metal Shop X]

It sure feels like it sometimes. No matter what anyone else does, they struggle to sell and maintain an audience without dumbing down/ruining their series. Or filling it up with micro transactions that make the game unplayable.

Meanwhile all Nintendo has to do is sneeze and it will sell millions. Even if it’s not good. It’s the same problem I have with Disney.

Man, I sure do wish Nintendo sneeze out F-Zero here and then and sell millions easily, cuz' while I ain't no F-Zero fan, I sure know alot of peoples who would want anything tht isn't cameo at this point.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Well, if it makes you feel better, modern day DK and Metroid are pretty much dumped onto American Studios.

Nintendo's got some western studios too, ya know...

Retro Studios for one.

And while they don't necessarily own Next Level Games, they are planning to work exclusively with Nintendo from now on.

Not really the point. Although that does explain why DKC appeals to me in a way no other series they own really does.

 

[Megadoomer]

It sure feels like it sometimes. No matter what anyone else does, they struggle to sell and maintain an audience without dumbing down/ruining their series. Or filling it up with micro transactions that make the game unplayable.

Meanwhile all Nintendo has to do is sneeze and it will sell millions. Even if it’s not good. It’s the same problem I have with Disney.

The Wii U alone seems to disprove that last part.

I'm sure there are plenty of inventive indie games that think outside the box when it comes to gameplay, but you can't expect independent developers to reinvent the wheel whenever they make a new game, especially if funding or income is uncertain. Some times, people want to take what they love and expand on it, or add to it, or pay tribute to it.

 

[Opossum]

It sure feels like it sometimes. No matter what anyone else does, they struggle to sell and maintain an audience without dumbing down/ruining their series. Or filling it up with micro transactions that make the game unplayable.

Meanwhile all Nintendo has to do is sneeze and it will sell millions. Even if it’s not good. It’s the same problem I have with Disney.

I mean, personally, looking at the Switch, the only million plus seller that I think can be truly called bad would be 1, 2, Switch but it makes sense given the context. Yeah it's basically a tech demo, but it came out when there were only like three other games on the system.

All the other top sellers for Nintendo I'd say are at least quality games.

 

[TheMightyP]

It sure feels like it sometimes. No matter what anyone else does, they struggle to sell and maintain an audience without dumbing down/ruining their series. Or filling it up with micro transactions that make the game unplayable.
Meanwhile all Nintendo has to do is sneeze and it will sell millions. Even if it’s not good. It’s the same problem I have with Disney.

Idk, Federation Force and Color Splash (even though people ended up liking CS in retrospect) both did pretty terribly, Amiibo Cash Grab Festival is considered to be amongst the worst game on the Wii U, and it did awful, Codename Steam... yeah, remember that game?

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Morning everyone, what’s happenin?

Still applying for jobs, hoping my interviews go well this week. I have a set of 4 interviews/shadowing sessions within the next 7 days, so it better yield something positive. That's the most I've ever had within one week so far.

 

[Opossum]

Idk, Federation Force and Color Splash (even though people ended up liking CS in retrospect) both did pretty terribly, Amiibo Cash Grab Festival is considered to be amongst the worst game on the Wii U, and it did awful, Codename Steam... yeah, remember that game?

It's very sad to see Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. listed alongside Amiibo Festival.


S.T.E.A.M. deserved better. :/

 

[Metal Shop X]

Codename Steam... yeah, remember that game?

I remember it thanks to my pal, Opo.

haven't got to play it myself, but I do think it deserved better.

 

[Gyrom8]

Speaking of Next Level Games, new Mario Strikers please?

Hopefully once they're done with Luigi's Mansion 3

Meanwhile all Nintendo has to do is sneeze and it will sell millions. Even if it’s not good. It’s the same problem I have with Disney.

Completely depends on the series - yeah, Pokemon, Smash and Mario Kart are always gonna do well, but their smaller franchises are by no means guaranteed successful sales

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I mean, personally, looking at the Switch, the only million plus seller that I think can be truly called bad would be 1, 2, Switch but it makes sense given the context. Yeah it's basically a tech demo, but it came out when there were only like three other games on the system.

All the other top sellers for Nintendo I'd say are at least quality games.

isnt MK8D still selling?

 

[TheMightyP]

It's very sad to see Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. listed alongside Amiibo Festival.


S.T.E.A.M. deserved better. :/

It could have done better if it wasn't for the Squid Kids taking up all the marketing and hype.

 

[Gentlepanda]

It's very sad to see Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. listed alongside Amiibo Festival.


S.T.E.A.M. deserved better. :/

people: "man i wish intsys did more than just making fire emblem every few years"
intsys: makes codename STEAM, a big passion project of theirs
people: "man i wish intsys just stuck to fire emblem"

 

[DerpingPikachu]

Still applying for jobs, hoping my interviews go well this week. I have a set of 4 interviews/shadowing sessions within the next 7 days, so it better yield something positive. That's the most I've ever had within one week so far.

Good luck man, I hope you get something.

 

[Metal Shop X]

people: "man i wish intsys did more than just making fire emblem every few years"
intsys: makes codename STEAM, a big passion project of theirs
people: "man i wish intsys just stuck to fire emblem"

In my honest opinion, I feel like the crests are to blame here.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

The Wii U alone seems to disprove that last part.

I'm sure there are plenty of inventive indie games that think outside the box when it comes to gameplay, but you can't expect independent developers to reinvent the wheel whenever they make a new game, especially if funding or income is uncertain. Some times, people want to take what they love and expand on it, or add to it, or pay tribute to it.

i understand. I still think they look very samey. But whatever. I guess I’m wrong.

I don’t know. Am I wrong in thinking that most of what we saw looked like HD versions of titles you’d find on the SNES? Every 3D game was either a shooter or that weird Minecraft copycat with anti-grav gimmicks.

I mean, personally, looking at the Switch, the only million plus seller that I think can be truly called bad would be 1, 2, Switch but it makes sense given the context. Yeah it's basically a tech demo, but it came out when there were only like three other games on the system.

All the other top sellers for Nintendo I'd say are at least quality games.

Honestly. That’s the part that frustrates me the most.

 

[IsmaR]

Inside Xbox at Gamescom is starting.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Inside Xbox at Gamescom is starting.

Is it streaming anywhere?

 

[Opossum]

i understand. I still think they look very samey. But whatever. I guess I’m wrong.


Honestly. That’s the part that frustrates me the most.

I'm not sure what you mean. You're upset that Nintendo games sell so much when you think they're often pretty bad, but you're also upset that all but, like, one of the best selling first party Switch games are good games?

I'm just trying to understand.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

The Sonic discussion is mind boggling to me, why should Nintendo be blamed for Sega making bad decisions with the Sonic franchise? It's not like Nintendo physically marched into Sega and said "split your team up so we get a game," Sega just tends to make bad business decisions, they always have. Looking at you Sega CD, Saturn, and Dreamcast.

And I don't like the idea that Nintendo should be chastised for making a console that's underpowered compared to the competition, if the Wii had the same power as the 360 or PS3 it probably would have cost an extra $100 or more. Being underpowered is what made the Wii interesting, it appealed to a wider range of people because it had a lower price point. Forcing companies to have strict guidelines on how powerful a console should be would kill creativity.

Also, Disney "sneezed out" Dumbo and it flopped.

 

[IsmaR]

Is it streaming anywhere?

It's being streamed on Xbox's twitch/Mixer page.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I'm not sure what you mean. You're upset that Nintendo games sell so much when you think they're often pretty bad, but you're also upset that all but, like, one of the best selling first party Switch games are good games?

I'm just trying to understand.

What I think is good and what everyone else thinks is good is often very different. And when games that I don’t like do well, it means that we get less of the ones I do.

When Nintendo does well other people fail. There are only so many studios. So many potential employees. And people only have so much money to spend on games.

 

[TheMightyP]

Nintendo flat out cannibilized their own franchise with Steam, aside from the fact that there was nothing special abiut it when it was shown off at E3, STEAM also was competing with Splatoon, which got all the hype for being a Nintendo shooter, but STEAM just got a measly Treehouse presentation which just showed off the same level for like 30 minutes, 1 amiibo trailer, and that's it. Barely any hands on, lack of info, large droughts for a game not very convincing, so it fizzled out and died on arrival.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

It's being streamed on Xbox's twitch/Mixer page.

Is anything interesting likely to happen? Should I even bother watching?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Also, Disney "sneezed out" Dumbo and it flopped.

I keep forgetting that film already released

And I say this as an absolute Disney fanatic

 

[YoshiandToad]

Do you think Project STEAM would have done better on a home console than the dying 3DS or was it too early to be a factor?

 

[TheMightyP]

I keep forgetting that film already released

And I say this as an absolute Disney fanatic

Maybe Tim Burton should just stay away from classic Disney movies.

 

[Opossum]

What I think is good and what everyone else thinks is good is often very different. And when games that I don’t like do well, it means that we get less of the ones I do.

When Nintendo does well other people fail. There are only so many studios. So many potential employees. And people only have so much money to spend on games.

That's what I don't get. It's not like a Kirby outperforming a Mass Effect game means the Mass Effect devs are going to be forced to make Kirby games. It's a correlation vs causation issue.

Not to mention different audiences exist for different games. Do you have any examples of the bolded?