So I've grabbed marth...

[St. Viers]

and its my turn to be an annoying *** to HIM. He's at low damage. What should I do? I can't chaingrab (as he can jump up too quickly). U-air doesn't do much to combo yet and Up-smash takes too long. U-tilt seems the best option but I can only get 1-2 before he jumps out of that...

I'm guessing SHBAWD/ FJDBA would get me maybe 2 more hits before he can tech, but is there any really good way to punish? (I'm using the down throw, if that helps)

Should I throw a different way (sometimes I just b-air and start hit-and running again)?

 

[hhliveson]

from what i've seen, you shuffle a few u-airs. u-tilt can work but at some point the u-air has to come into play. after some time you can start to look into the b-air and docpunch.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

U-air doesn't do much to combo?..I've been carried off stage by those darn things many times at low damage.

 

[Ronin686]

U-air IS good against Marth at low percents.

 

[Cyphus]

at low damage, uptilt is prolly ur best bet if he doesn't DI completely...otherwise, i'm actually fond of a rising d.air, fastfalling the 2nd half of the animation into a UpAir for a nice chunk of damage.

u can also do an immediate shuffled upair and attempt a regrab..works good if they don't expect it, but i wouldn't do it twice.

 

[St. Viers]

Thanks Cyphus. I'll try those.

@everyone else.
I also love u-air, but when I use one (SHFF, if not L-cancled, I'm not sure) he seems to not be able to be hit by another. When I say low percent I mean like 10%, not 30+%. Its always the first grab off of him (usually after he tries to f-smash me after he dies, and I'm at really high %) and it ends up that I lose the advantage by grabbing. When I get him into the less low %'s I don't have as much of a problem.

@thebluedeath100: don't cut my words up to try and make me look foolish (omitting "yet" is kind of major when reading, don't you think?--it makes it clear that I know that u-air is good for comboing people, just not at the percent he is at when I grab him)

 

[Dogysamich]

u can also do an immediate shuffled upair and attempt a regrab..works good if they don't expect it, but i wouldn't do it twice.

Depending on the %, I like that option.

I also like d-throw -> f.smash, just to get some damage and get them away from you.

Until late, i've been lackin pretty bad in the combo department, so I cant really talk for how good or bad u.air-ing. I'd like to think it would work, but I cant say for sure.

U.tilt is always a good option, imo. Sets em up for other stuff.

 

[Bullet Bill]

It is annoying that you can't chainthrow Marth. And even if you can't uair combo that well (like me) you can always do a quick fair. It's a short combo but it does a fair amount of damage.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

st. viers, I didn't try do cut up your words, I didn't even say anything offensive, don't be a prick about it, I didn't mean anything by my post.

 

[St. Viers]

^ah, okay. Sorry man, no offence taken, I hope?
I read this real late, and I assumed intent that wasn't there.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Its okay, It takes alot to develop a grudge with me : )

 

[DrGrimReaper]

wat is FJDBA ??

 

[St. Viers]

Full jump double back-air...not a commonly used acronym (I made it as I was typing...)

 

[DrGrimReaper]

oh okay, yeah that's a pretty fun move to do, never would have thought of using it on the offense tho!

 

[boss8]

d-throw,jump dair, gives him atleast 25%,then grab again and you can upair from there,or grab,d-throw,up-air,grab again,try it!!!