So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Yep .

 

[Roller]

So let me get this straight:

Mink said something that a minority of people would find overly offensive for commenting his thoughts on a subject you brought up that would offend overly offend a minority of people.

You admit that you know that a majority of people do this.

That being said, it could be concluded you knowingly incited this. While Mink was simply expressing his opinion.

^

the one that bothered me was mostly this...

"But seeing it is the fun part...for us anyway."

And you did agree with it.

I don't think I've ever agreed more with one of ESAM's posts.

That's... really rude o.O

I don't like thinking about my nana kissing anyone else...

Guess I'm gay, then :/

Sounds like it.

Alright then. Why doesn't my boyfriend like it? Tell me that.

Didn't we just establish he's gay?

way to go :/ you guys do know that talking to people like that is disrespectful, right?

Alright, fine. I'll say it. I'm a human being. I have a vagina, and I have boobs, and I'm still a person. I am not my gender and I am not a tool used for other people to get off. I have feelings, and I love people, and when you disrespect the relationships I've had with girls in the past, and you trivialize the love and heartbreak I felt, it makes me ****ing sick. And I want no association with people who do that.

I just wanted to come here and chat with people like everyone else. I did NOT start this, and don't try to say that I did. I'm just saying my piece, giving you all a chance to be ashamed of yourselves and apologize, then leaving if/when you change the subject again and move on without knowing what you did wrong...

And I am a HUGE Ice Climbers fan. I have been obsessed with them since I was 11 or 12, and I'm almost 21 now. I have been playing with them competitively for 6 months. I belong here, and I deserve to be treated like a member just like everyone else, regardless of my gender or sexual preference.

I have friends who are white, black, asian... doesn't make me not a racist. Me seeing all races as equal makes me not a racist.

It's the same thing.

You trivialized my only high school relationship, and a love that I had so deep that I would have given up everything to be with her, and another love that I almost moved 700 miles away to be with her. You compressed all those feelings down into, "Wow, that'd be hot to watch."

I'm trying, not for my sake, but for the world's sake, to make people realize what they're doing.

But a huge majority of people do this on a regular basis... bi girls even do it to themselves.

And I know this isn't going to make sense, just like everything else I've said, but I have one more thing I'd like to say.

If I see an attractive couple, I will sometimes think, "ooh, I'd like to see them do it." But I am not so low and piggish that I sit there and think to myself "I'd like to see a random guy and girl/girl and girl/guy and guy do it right now even if I have no idea what they look like or act like, lol." I judge by a person-to-person basis, and even if you are straight, goddamn it you should too. ):

Yes, it is, because someone came in and called a bunch of people out for being ignorant. God forbid. One thread takes a turn for the worst, and hopefully, a few people stop being bigots and start treating their fellow smashers like respectable human beings even if their gender or sexuality deviates from the overwhelming majority.

Well, I stick up for myself. If that's called 'drama', eh, whatever. I will discontinue this argument and apologize not for what I said, not for stirring things up, but for getting a bit too personal and a little hot-headed. I really want to be friends with everyone, and I want to participate in this thread. I just...stick up for myself, and I will do as I feel is right.

 

[DeLux]

After a little over 4 hours of practicing:

[6:19:03 AM] DeLux: I decided that I am no longer going to trip while CGing
[6:19:11 AM] DeLux: and can now soft turn CG every character not named jiggly puff

Given that I can't CG normally so I'm breaking down how I CG and relearning everything, I might as well relearn the anti-tripping stuff along the way.

 

[Roller]

I very much approve of this. The rest of us should probably do the same...


But who am I kidding?

 

[DtJ SquidBurrMoneyBurr]

Nerds.......

 

[DeLux]

I can only soft turn jigglypuff like half the time, and I've been working on it for an hour.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Wow I missed a lot of pages...

I was just joking, I didn't mean to offend you nanabanana. The gay people I know aren't offended by jokes or comments like that, so I'm used to tolerance from both ends (We both can joke about each other's respective positions). My bizzle. Mink can vouch that I'm normally not serious on the boards, or in person for that matter.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

I wish I could just decide not to trip anymore. I envy you, lux.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

It's true .

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Mink where'd your pony go??
Nana please ignore roller. Dudes quite the troll.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

My new avatar is a humanized Rainbow Dash.

Until i find a worthy rainbow dash picture.
Or i get my premium.
I'm using sexy rainbow dash

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Trololol. When I go out to pensacola we need to do a smash fest or somethin! I wanna do a jiggly ditto xD

 

[Nana Banana]

Alright, look. All I'm really asking is that you DON'T bring it up again. I have stated that I find it rude, it offends me personally... and I will say right now if I haven't, it makes me feel like I am NOT a part of the community. It makes me feel like I'm here for others to look at, not to hang out and play Smash Bros. like everyone else.

Being turned into a fetish is most likely not an emotion any of you have had to deal with in your lives. It feels terrible.

If you turn this into the next big joke, just know that you've officially excommunicated me. And feel ****ty about it, because you will be sorry.

This isn't just THE INTERNETZ.
I know a lot of you in real life, and I will someday if I keep going to tournaments.

Remember that.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Ayo relax. You aren't a fetish, you are a human and you are bi because of love, not because of sex, I get that. However, it is still nice to see 2 good-looking girls make-out. Does that mean I objectify bi/gay women as "Damn I went them to hook up?" Hell no, it's just nice to see.

If you accept the fact that you are bi, you should also accept people JOKING about it. Remember...JOKING! If people are discriminating against you because of your sexual orientation, that's ****ed up and you can go kill them and I'll help :D

 

[Nana Banana]

Ayo relax. You aren't a fetish, you are a human and you are bi because of love, not because of sex, I get that. However, it is still nice to see 2 good-looking girls make-out. Does that mean I objectify bi/gay women as "Damn I went them to hook up?" Hell no, it's just nice to see.

If you accept the fact that you are bi, you should also accept people JOKING about it. Remember...JOKING! If people are discriminating against you because of your sexual orientation, that's ****ed up and you can go kill them and I'll help :D

I understand a few jokes here and there, I'm just offended by the people who are telling me I shouldn't be arguing and ****. Enough jokes makes it serious, and I've had to deal with a lot of this in my life, and it becomes excessive very easily... I am not even angry with you. I'm angry with the people perpetuating it. I appreciate your comments and everything and I'm totally cool with you now. Now, everyone, STOP perpetuating this topic.

 

[Exceladon City]

Oh my goodness. This thread isn't dead for once.

So what's all the hub-bub, bub?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Well I was guessing you were mad considering you mentioned one of my comments specifically. Whatevs, I'll just joke with the people I know are fine with it. Sowways for not asking before, kinda insensitive.

 

[Nana Banana]

Oh my goodness. This thread isn't dead for once.

So what's all the hub-bub, bub?

A few people offended me with some comments about my sexuality, and I argued with them, therefore, I am suddenly a big deal.

I'd really like to just move on and talk about Smash Bros. at this point, but, what do you know. People keep going, because this is funny to them.

I should start putting out t-shirts and ****.

 

[Roller]

Nana honestly, you need to learn to take a joke if you're going to fit in with the community. People joke around and troll each other here all the time. It isn't meant to be malicious. (At least about 95% of the time it isn't.)

The fact of the matter is, that if you had just not responded to the comments at all they would have just ended immediately. And I find the fact that Frozen is taking a stance against the trolling in this instance purely comical, as in the past he has been a HUGE troll on these boards.

Another thing I find amusing is the profuse apologizing. Because I NEVER see trolls here apologize at all. The only reason they are, is because you have a vagina. imo they are all the ones acting the most sexist/chauvinistic/etc. I'm treating you just as I'd treat any straight, white, upper middle class male. Or anyone else for that matter.

You're not single, but I highly recommend reading this, as it very clearly pertains to you, and contains some good points.
http://www.inspiration-for-singles.com/laugh-at-yourself.html


tl;dr: lrn2laughatyourself, and don't take obviously joking comments so seriously.

 

[Nana Banana]

Nana honestly, you need to learn to take a joke if you're going to fit in with the community. People joke around and troll each other here all the time. It isn't meant to be malicious. (At least about 95% of the time it isn't.)

The fact of the matter is, that if you had just not responded to the comments at all they would have just ended immediately. And I find the fact that Frozen is taking a stance against the trolling in this instance purely comical, as in the past he has been a HUGE troll on these boards.

Another thing I find amusing is the profuse apologizing. Because I NEVER see trolls here apologize at all. The only reason they are, is because you have a vagina. imo they are all the ones acting the most sexist/chauvinistic/etc. I'm treating you just as I'd treat any straight, white, upper middle class male. Or anyone else for that matter.

You're not single, but I highly recommend reading this, as it very clearly pertains to you, and contains some good points.
http://www.inspiration-for-singles.com/laugh-at-yourself.html


tl;dr: lrn2laughatyourself, and don't take obviously joking comments so seriously.

I suppose I will never fit in with the community, then.

I mean, it's a bit too late already, isn't it?
I've already been turned into the next big joke.

 

[Roller]

Again. You're taking this all very seriously. This is joking on an internet forum. I do not have a problem with you.. At all. Neither does anyone else. I'm just giving you advice. I can't tell you how many times I personally have been the target of jokes, that have lasted more than one day mind you. And because I am able to laugh at the humor in what I do and say, I am able to get along just fine with people. I can't tell you how many times I have been trolled by someone online, then met them irl and we both wound up being cool with each other/friends.

Today? Yeah, you're the target of some jokes, most of them though have actually been about your attitude, as opposed to your sexual preferences. But the point is, next week I'll get 3 stocked by a scrub sonic or something, and everyone will be laughing at me. The other week for instance, m2k jizzed in another kid's bed. Will he be the joke of the community forever?(for THAT reason at least.) No. A female smasher recently did multiple promiscuous things with different guys just on one tourney weekend alone, while dating another smasher. The following week there were jokes about her everywhere. Now, you probably couldn't even tell me who that was. (though others here could. but nobody really jokes about it anymore.) The point is, this **** blows over so fast that it doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. Learn to put things into perspective.

And seriously, read the article.

 

[Nana Banana]

I read the article..problem is, I don't find this funny on TV or movies either. :| It's an emotion people don't know how to deal with. I don't think anybody here has ever felt this before. Yes, being made fun of is similar, but this is being objectified. Looked at as a sex object, a fetish.

I'm just going to leave the forums and hope that when I come back a few weeks/months from now, this really is all gone.

 

[Roller]

If you leave for a few months at this point, the second you come back everyone will just be like, OMG I haven't seen you here since that whole blah blah blah, the issue gets brought back up. Your best move, imo is to just ignore these last few pages and join in on the next topic shift.

In other news, I'mma be at KTAR, I assume Cheese will be there. Anybody else?

 

[Exceladon City]

It really shouldn't be that big of a deal Nana. I'm a big, black, gay dude. Now watch as all the attention turns toward me. There, I've martyred myself for the sake of your further attendance on the boards.

 

[Sieguest]

Oh dear, seems we've come back to the same impasse that I thought we got through last night.

After a little over 4 hours of practicing:

[6:19:03 AM] DeLux: I decided that I am no longer going to trip while CGing
[6:19:11 AM] DeLux: and can now soft turn CG every character not named jiggly puff

Given that I can't CG normally so I'm breaking down how I CG and relearning everything, I might as well relearn the anti-tripping stuff along the way.

I very much approve of this. The rest of us should probably do the same...


But who am I kidding?

I've been saying this since late '09!

It really shouldn't be that big of a deal Nana. I'm a big, black, gay dude. Now watch as all the attention turns toward me. There, I've martyred myself for the sake of your further attendance on the boards.

OMGBACONENDOFTHEWORLDYOURSEXUALORIENTATIONISDIFFERENTFROMMYOWN
Mission accomplished... we out.

 

[Exceladon City]

OMGBACONENDOFTHEWORLDYOURSEXUALORIENTATIONISDIFFERENTFROMMYOWN
Mission accomplished... we out.

Excel likes this.

 

[Roller]

Excel, you're an abomination and I hate you. <3

 

[Nana Banana]

I keep TRYING to move on. ._. People keep bringing it back up.

But... I won't be going to that, I don't think. I'm trying to host a free tournament because I can't go to any of the big ones, not enough money. (Not working out so well, no responses so far.)

 

[Sieguest]

I would go if it wasn't over one thousand miles away. x.x Speaking of tourneys, hopefully within the next 7 months I will be attending my first one.

Now to return to school...

 

[Nana Banana]

Bleh. Well if anyone in the Atlanta area would attend, I could have a really good free tourney. Problem is I think people like the aspect of competing for money, so no one good will show up if it's free, right? *shrug* @_@ Gah. I hate being poor.

 

[Exceladon City]

Bleh. Well if anyone in the Atlanta area would attend, I could have a really good free tourney. Problem is I think people like the aspect of competing for money, so no one good will show up if it's free, right? *shrug* @_@ Gah. I hate being poor.

Host house tournaments. $10 Singles/ $10 Doubles/ $5 venue. Use the venue to make money to host at bigger venues. If you're good at what you do, you can make a name for yourself and more people will start showing up to your events. Get some friends together and maybe you can alternate houses or pool money together to rent out a venue like a church or a recreation center.

 

[Roller]

Bleh. Well if anyone in the Atlanta area would attend, I could have a really good free tourney. Problem is I think people like the aspect of competing for money, so no one good will show up if it's free, right? *shrug* @_@ Gah. I hate being poor.

Why couldn't you make the tourney have an entrance fee? It is normal to charge a venue fee, and it sounds like you wouldn't need to pay the venue you would be using. So why not just hold a $10 tourney with a $5 venue fee (normal prices for both) and you then use $10 from the venue fee to enter yourself, and the rest goes to helping you not be so poor. win/win. And the players wouldn't mind it at all. TO's often make money from the venue fees, especially if they host it in their apartment or something. (where they obviously don't need to pay for it) And that is pretty common place, in fact I was at one just 2 days ago in NYC.

EDIT: Ninja'd by excel. lol

 

[Nana Banana]

xD Appreciated guys, but I don't know if I have a decent venue to host at. I'm pretty sure I just have a tiny apartment with one TV. @_@'' If I had an actual house, that'd be good, but sadly I do not.

 

[Dantebro]

I think Ice climbers are OP because we get two characters and everyone else only gets one.... /Discuss

 

[Nana Banana]

LOL Dantebro.

That is what everyone who loses to me says. >)

Tis just a john. The game balances them well enough.

 

[Dantebro]

Cant count the number of times Ive heard that lol. Anywho anyone going to ceo 2011 in Orlando on June 10th?

 

[Nana Banana]

I'd love to go to all tournies but I don't think I have the money. xP Even if it were free I'd still be taking days off work, therefore giving up money. I have been living on my own for a while now.

 

[DeLux]

I think Ice climbers are OP because we get two characters and everyone else only gets one.... /Discuss

Nana says no http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=303142

 

[Nana Banana]

LMFAO. So true... **** nana.

 

[ch33s3]

I hate every single one of you. Equally, of course.

And yes Roller, I'll be at KTAR. And I'm going to get last there, the pause rule doesn't give me free games :/

SEE HOW THIS WORKS?