So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

[DeLux]

I'm doing some testing now. If you buffer a Dash out of Squall, it also sets it up. I'll keep updating posts with what I find lol

I've noticed that if you double tap dash pretty much out of the cooldown of ANYTHING you'll get this effect. If buffered correctly, the first dash reads as the "turn popo and nana around". However, the second dash cancels the first dash in the buffer cue thus making it input at a turn around rather than a dash. Except in the case of Nana who's put one frame ahead because of the turn around mechanics, she will dash on IASA because as we note, she has no need to turn around.

That's my hypothesis on why it works at least. I'll consult with EA at some point and we'll put our heads together and see if I'm wrong. He's more informed than I am on this stuff I think lol

 

[B0NK]

^^^ Gracias =)

Keep me posted =P

EDIT: thanks, that's actually really interesting and makes it seem more useful than ever :D

 

[DeLux]

If you do a forward initial dash and then buffer a run back the other direction, it also creates this situation. It does not appear to work with reverse initial dash though. Go figure lol

Note: I say run in the sense that you input your FID, then you input a buffered RID, but hold the RID input, effectively buffering a run. The RID gets cancelled into a turnaround and every input there after counts as walking for Popo, but as a run for Nana.

 

[B0NK]

that's exactly how i do it^^^ I explained it in my earlier post, I should have specified initial dash though, definitely the easiest way to do it.

edit again:

lol nvm i see what your saying now, yeah i did do two inputs

 

[DeLux]

Oh, you said dash dance. So I assumed you did more than one dash input lol

 

[B0NK]

also considering there are so many desyncs using the RID, it's interesting to have one out of a FID.

Thing such as empty short-hop backwards (like spacing a back air), and then dashing forward away from the opponent (possibly avoiding an attack) then walking towards the opponent with this. (also easier than that 2 frame landing desync thing... although each would be used for different situations)

 

[DeLux]

also considering there are so many desyncs using the RID, interesting to have one out of a FID.

Thing such as empty short-hop backwards (like spacing a back air), and then dashing back (possibly avoiding an attack) then walking towards the opponent with this. (also easier than that 2 frame landing desync thing... although each would be for different situations)

Inb4 I reveal LuxDesync2

The Preview

I need to do more testing on it before I let you all know lol

 

[B0NK]

loooooool ok xD, should be interesting. Eventually at this rate we'll get to the point that it'll be possible to stay desynch the entire match without losing options.

Not that it'll be the most effective style, but still an interesting one to look at =P

 

[DeLux]

I'm convinced that if the character has only two jumps and it isn't Rob (whose lasers go through things), it's possible to play entire matches desynced when you're on approach. At least, that's how i've been playing lately. But my desyncing philosophy is getting to the fast way of Nana being able to do a special desynced for a frame trap.

I say this loosely in that this is the gameplan I use on every character that fits that description except rare cases (MK, Snake, Diddy, ROB, TL, DDD, Kirbs, and Olimar). Well, actually even Kirby and DDD I use that game plan. I play the ROB and Snake MUs very similarly but it's more complicated to explain.

I wish I had some very recent vids of me playing my new style lol


WHO IS GOING TO POUND?

 

[Rubberbandman]

WHO IS GOING TO POUND?

Even though its only about an hour and a half away from me, Im not going. I have no money. Its kinda saddening.

 

[DeLux]

L Tell Cheese to cut TWO cheerleaders and let's make it happen

 

[ch33s3]

L Tell Cheese to cut TWO cheerleaders and let's make it happen

You Jelly.

 

[EverAlert]

lol, implying cheese can even get those two cheerleaders without an aussie bro.

 

[ch33s3]

lol, implying cheese can even get those two cheerleaders without an aussie bro.

You're really jelly.

 

[Roller]

WHO IS GOING TO POUND?

Just registered. Coming down with Lain, so he'll be there too.

 

[Smoom77]

Who's going to whobo? ;-;

 

[B0NK]

Bonk vs Monday

I hate Monday -__-

 

[Teh Future]

Future, I'll team with you if I don't go to the rave too :D

no ur going

i need to tell my pal davey if im coming to pound

I agree!

Just registered. Coming down with Lain, so he'll be there too.

he lives!

 

[Smoom77]

In all seriousness, do you wanna team?

 

[GimR]

Today is the last day to sign up for pound!

http://pound5.weebly.com/

 

[Hylian]

I'll be at Pound and Whobo.

 

[DeLux]

Not going to Pound anymore. Schedule conflicts

Too bad Hylian, we would have had like 16 hours to talk IC's in the carride there lol

 

[ch33s3]

16 hours to talk IC's

Wow, that sounds so fun. Seriously.

 

[Hylian]

Talk? We could have played brawl for 16 hours. My girlfriends car has a tv that we brawl on.

 

[DeLux]

Haha. Too bad you guys were leaving one day too early for me. Those unmovable tests are shenanigans for me.

I probably wouldn't have been able to play. I get horrendously car sick (like, can't even play Melee because the camera zoom makes me motion sick) when what I'm seeing doesn't match the motion we're making and would have slowed us all down.

 

[Hylian]

Wait lux, is your test on thursday? If so you are fine to go. We aren't leaving till like..10pm or even midnight.

 

[DeLux]

It's a night class on Thursday. And then I'd have to drive the 4 hours or w/e it is to St. Louis. So there is no way I'd make it in time :\

 

[Hylian]

When does it end?

 

[DeLux]

10pm.

10cantmakeittostlintime

 

[Rubberbandman]

10pm.

10cantmakeittostlintime

You can make it, just speed.

You dont have to worry about TRAFFIC until you get to VA.

 

[Roller]

Just gun it. They clearly seem down to leave latenight.

 

[ch33s3]

Doooooo eeeeeeeeettttt

 

[B0NK]

You can make it, just speed.

You dont have to worry about TRAFFIC until you get to VA.

loooooooool so true xD Dat I-95 status!

 

[Roller]

Yo Lux, this is from last night. Me thinks you could get there in time.

Ok for those going to Pound:

I think it would be best to leave between Thursday at Midnight to Friday no later than 6 or 7 am.

There's more. But you can check out the post to see it.

 

[DeLux]

too late, didn't register. Deadline already past

 

[B0NK]

It's plank... More likely than not he is going to extend the deadline =P

Unfortunately I don't have money to enter, still debating if I'll still go though

 

[ch33s3]

too late, didn't register. Deadline already past

Reg is still open. do it.

 

[DeLux]

Fine guys. I put in a request in the StL thread. So it's like a 50/50 and more or less up to them if they want to wait for me.

 

[ch33s3]

Fine guys. I put in a request in the StL thread. So it's like a 50/50 and more or less up to them if they want to wait for me.

Good boy. *pat pat*

 

[Roller]

So, I know a few people in here have expressed interest either to me, or to tech chase, or other MI smashers, in the idea of coming to MI for a tourney if there was ever one of a decent size.

There is going to be a Brawl/Melee regional in MI 3/19. Hype is already high. Several EC melee players have already confirmed, and are working on some EC brawlers. Multiple midwest states have already confirmed as well.

If you are ever planning on coming to an MI tourney. This is the one to hit up.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=296753