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Snake is as easy, if not easier to play than using Zelda in Melee.

Laijin

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Zelda. The easiest character in the game in melee(next to Sheik) to use, takes as much skill to play as Snake does in Brawl. All of Zelda's moves consisted of f-air, b-air(and occassionally down smash, f-smash, and throw).
Well. If you count her edge guarding, that will actually make her harder to use than Snake.

All that requires of snake is f-tilt..AAA combo..and maybe the occasional shield grenade and C4. Back throw, foward throw, Nikita.
Im not good at describing ****.

But I mained Zelda in melee and I main Snake in brawl. And Snake is beyond easy to play and he is even one of the best in the game. Its ********. Takes almost no skill to play Snake(Or this game in general, which sucks btw.)

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abit_rusty

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First off, Zelda easier to use than Sheik in melee? Teir list consideration here? I hope you're joking.

Second, I disagree (somewhat). A friend of mine was really skilled in melee, a real tech and mindgame freak, usually destroyed everyone in my local tourneys and he also went to national tourneys and beat a few of the pros (ka-master, gimpyfish). So basically he was a beast in melee.

I faced off with him with my Snake. I felt that my Snake was(is) as good as it is now because I actually practiced, not because he was "easy to use". It takes a lot more than spamming tilts and random specials. I proceed to whoop him. HE then tries out Snake. I proceed to 3 stock him in a Snake ditto, almost JV 4 stock. So my point is, someone who was extremely skilled in melee can't apply the same things to brawl, yet brawl still takes a different type of skill to be proficient in.

Snake may be easy to use (then again who ISN'T in brawl, just as you said) but he is tough to play properly. He's not a pick-up-and-go character, and I think you're dumbing down his gameplay too much.
 

DiasFlac

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Took me about 4hrs to learn a great way of playing Snake. I don't like how I play Snake because I feel what the other players are feeling. "All he's doing is running,rolling and spamming grenades its so annoying!!" (thats not all I do with my Snake thats just the gist of it)

I'm all for players using different tactics so I don't complain about one tactic to the next but I just don't like that kind of camping tactic. Its waaaay to creepy for me. Snake is easy to play (imo) he's not as hard as say Jig's, Peach and Sonic.

If anyone seen me play Snake a few times against them I believe they would have his play style down pat. I'm sure each Snake player play Snake differently but the way I play him it even scares me (not saying I'm the best Snake player)

Its just I would hate to actually play against my own Snake LOL and my friends and brothers hate playing my Snake so I just stop playing as him.

Like I said before I'm all for different tactics and stuff. I know their a way around every thing (unless its a glitch or something of that type) but playing a campy Snake is by far the worst thing for any character and I haven't even played another Snake who plays the way I do online. I'm just going off the way I play and imaging what it would be like playing myself with my main Zelda and having to play against a Snake who plays him the way I do.

I find it shocking I don't see more Snake players online.
 

Parthenon

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Laijin, is this all because of your Mike G matches at Waba?

What happened to Kirby?
 

Laijin

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Laijin, is this all because of your Mike G matches at Waba?

What happened to Kirby?
I actually main Kirby more than Snake. Its just that Snake is hard for me to fight out of every other character in the game its really ghey. He is impossible to edge guard because of his super armor and his f-tilt has SO much range and priority and knockback its ridiculous. Too easy to play IMO
 

bman in 2288

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Eh. Snake is hard to learn, but epic once mastered.

However, now I can't play Melee anymore due to my main there being Link, who's the exact opposite of Snake.
 

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first off i think this game is much easier period, theres no need to rant about every1 being easier to play it goes with saying so dont bother wasting ur breath. Secondly, Snake is dangerous definitely, but ive seen some crappy snakes out there so i dont believe he's as easy as you believe him to be. granted his f-tilt is amazing among other things in his arsenal, but theres plenty other character with just as much dangerous weapons as f-tilt and the fact is with the depreciation system in play most snakes run around doing f-tilt and then just fail in the long run because it becomes so weak. I personally think snake is perfect for this game because hes the most mind game oriented. But if u see through them, i believe hes more vunerable than most characters because he relies so heavily on them.
 

Lunar6

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All that requires of snake is f-tilt..AAA combo..and maybe the occasional shield grenade and C4. Back throw, foward throw, Nikita
Yeah, but people who aren't ******** will catch onto your playstyle given how analytical and half-***** you make it out to be. F-tilt is spammable at best, but it's not the longest-ranged move Snake's got. I usually just try to finish people off with its two hits. The only reason to use the AAA combo is for the kick, it's sometimes impossible to get out safely after just landing one or two punches. And all the "maybes" you listed are actually to be taken into a higher priority than "maybe", espeially the forward/back throw.
 

Jeff Highwind

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Zelda. The easiest character in the game in melee(next to Sheik) to use, takes as much skill to play as Snake does in Brawl. All of Zelda's moves consisted of f-air, b-air(and occassionally down smash, f-smash, and throw).
Well. If you count her edge guarding, that will actually make her harder to use than Snake.

All that requires of snake is f-tilt..AAA combo..and maybe the occasional shield grenade and C4. Back throw, foward throw, Nikita.
Im not good at describing ****.

But I mained Zelda in melee and I main Snake in brawl. And Snake is beyond easy to play and he is even one of the best in the game. Its ********. Takes almost no skill to play Snake(Or this game in general, which sucks btw.)

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You put me in a relatively awkward position when I read this dammit. Quit trying to be so ambiguously eloquent, jerk. :p

I do agree that Snake is relatively overpowered, but his moves hardly rely on 2 A moves, a grab and 2 B moves. Dtilt and Utilt are shockingly powerful, come out quick and have deceptively big hitboxes. His aerials are also amazing, my favorites being the Uair and Dair and the occasional Ftilt to confuse people with a high flying KO. Grabs, I prefer the Uthrow since it pops people high but the Dthrow is great for chasing and C4 sticking. In the end though, his moves are strikingly powerful and deceptively long.

That being said, he's not all powerful and it does take some fiddling around to get over his weakness. His biggest pain is people with "projectile walls" such as Toon Link and Olimar, they devastate him since both are strikingly fast and keep Snake at bay with their meddling tools or sentient vegetation. Also, his aerial game is fairly weak and are more KO moves than anything so people with air games can destroy him.

Finally, I sincerely think anyone who plays cautiously can outdo Snake. I believe that Snake thrives on unpredictability, so all Snake mainers need to keep a sharp mind in order to not be predictable. He may be easy to pick up, but his complications and unorthodox smashes make him hard to master.
 

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You put me in a relatively awkward position when I read this dammit. Quit trying to be so ambiguously eloquent, jerk. :p

I do agree that Snake is relatively overpowered, but his moves hardly rely on 2 A moves, a grab and 2 B moves. Dtilt and Utilt are shockingly powerful, come out quick and have deceptively big hitboxes. His aerials are also amazing, my favorites being the Uair and Dair and the occasional Ftilt to confuse people with a high flying KO. Grabs, I prefer the Uthrow since it pops people high but the Dthrow is great for chasing and C4 sticking. In the end though, his moves are strikingly powerful and deceptively long.

That being said, he's not all powerful and it does take some fiddling around to get over his weakness. His biggest pain is people with "projectile walls" such as Toon Link and Olimar, they devastate him since both are strikingly fast and keep Snake at bay with their meddling tools or sentient vegetation. Also, his aerial game is fairly weak and are more KO moves than anything so people with air games can destroy him.

Finally, I sincerely think anyone who plays cautiously can outdo Snake. I believe that Snake thrives on unpredictability, so all Snake mainers need to keep a sharp mind in order to not be predictable. He may be easy to pick up, but his complications and unorthodox smashes make him hard to master.
Woo Jeff repreSENT.

Seriously though, I get often get comments from my opponents saying they underestimated Snake.
 

DiasFlac

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I think Brawl is better then melee but its just my thoughts. OP don't go around thinking everyone thinks the same way you do because they don't. Some people prefer brawl and some prefer melee. Both of them are simply to learn cuz their both mainly the same game.

While both games are easy to play when it comes to actual skill its different. Their is more depth in this game then you may think.

Your probably just mad because a Snake owned you. Quit complaining about it to us and learn how to beat him next time. Their a way to beat every tactic (unless its a gamebreaking glitch) its up to you whether or not you actually want to learn how to beat it.
 

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diddy kong ***** snake.
:-D

Snake is noob friendly. Which means people who use snake use a degenerate playstyle, which, once figured out is easy to counter. Most snakes spam f-tilt and dash attack and randomly throw explosives around. That's not "overpowered". thats "not being good at the game". Just use shield an ddon't get hit by explosives and you'll win against 99 percent of snakes.

his f-tilt is too good though.
my main diddy kong can hit snake out of his up b with any of his aerials. so edguarding isn't too much a big deal until he starts recovering high...but snakes aerials suck and diddy's don't.

Nes Noob, i'm adding you right now. My tag will show up as LOKI?, which is my roomies tag...when its me.. i will change my ingame tag to T1J so you know its me.
 

Zone

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>.> Zelda has more moves than that, that are good for given respective situations.
But I get ur point. Zelda is fairly easy to play, much like jigglypuff.
 
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