Smash WiiU & 3DS Miiverse Daily Pic - August 21st

[ihskeyp]

You don't "play" it. It isn't for entertainment purposes. Not a game.

Um, it's still a videogame... Just because you don't technically play it doesn't make it not a video game

 

[DarkDeity15]

Um, it's still a videogame... Just because you don't technically play it doesn't make it not a video game

It kinda does...

 

[ihskeyp]

It kinda does...

No, you're making up false rules for what makes something a videogame. It was made by a video game company, played on a video game system, and you buy it at video game stores. It's a video game.

 

[DarkDeity15]

No, you're making up false rules for what makes something a videogame. It was made by a video game company, played on a video game system, and you buy it at video game stores. It's a video game.

It's a fitness tool. That's all it is.

 

[The21stSmasher]

That's offensive

Yeah, but did you REALLY think that the main villain of Legend of Zelda would be replaced by him?

 

[Digital Hazard]

People seriously thought he was going to be playable? He's only relevant to one game and a spin-off.

 

[RPGatWill]

It's a fitness tool. That's all it is.

"Wii Fit - Game Only by Nintendo of America" - gamestop.com

"Wii Fit Game with Balance Board" - Amazon.com

"By playing Wii Fit Plus a little every day, you, your friends, and your family can work towards personal goals of better health and fitness." - wiifit.com

"Wii Fit (Wiiフィット Wī Fitto?) is a video game designed by Nintendo's Hiroshi Matsunaga[4] for the Wii home video game console.[5] It is an exercise game consisting of activities using the Wii Balance Board peripheral." - wikipedia.com

This shows clearly that Wii Fit is indeed a game. You can look all these up yourself and find these exact quotes. You may not consider it a video game, but you are not the one who decides what constitutes a video game. Nintendo released it as a video game on the Wii console, which plays video games. If you cannot see the truth then that is your choice, but I thought showing you clear proof would help.

I will not participate further but I would ask you consider that this topic is also not for you to debate whether or not Wii Fit is a game. I believe there is a general discussion where you can go argue about it instead.

 

[Ben Holt]

He has a sword, that says enough

That's offensive

Wanting to replace the recurring wielder of the Triforce of Power with a most likely one-off character is offensive.

 

[DarkDeity15]

"Wii Fit - Game Only by Nintendo of America" - gamestop.com

"Wii Fit Game with Balance Board" - Amazon.com

"By playing Wii Fit Plus a little every day, you, your friends, and your family can work towards personal goals of better health and fitness." - wiifit.com

"Wii Fit (Wiiフィット Wī Fitto?) is a video game designed by Nintendo's Hiroshi Matsunaga[4] for the Wii home video game console.[5] It is an exercise game consisting of activities using the Wii Balance Board peripheral." - wikipedia.com

This shows clearly that Wii Fit is indeed a game. You can look all these up yourself and find these exact quotes. You may not consider it a video game, but you are not the one who decides what constitutes a video game. Nintendo released it as a video game on the Wii console, which plays video games. If you cannot see the truth then that is your choice, but I thought showing you clear proof would help.

I will not participate further but I would ask you consider that this topic is also not for you to debate whether or not Wii Fit is a game. I believe there is a general discussion where you can go argue about it instead.

That's cool and all, but people don't play it to have fun. That, for me, is enough for it not to be a game.

 

[Chilex]

why are people ******** about him not being playable?

 

[ihskeyp]

That's cool and all, but people don't play it to have fun. That, for me, is enough for it not to be a game.

It's still a video game, regardless if you have fun while playing it

 

[ecylisis]

All I wanted was a cool Zelda newcomer. That's all.

One that doesn't suck (Zelda, Ganondorf) and isn't a clone (Link, Toon Link, Ganondorf).

Skull Kid would have been cool, I thought. Oh, he's an assist trophy? OK, there's still Tingle, right? Oh, he's an assist trophy too? Well Ghirahim would be pretty cool... assist trophy? ;_;

Now all we have left is Impa, and I don't even like her.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

All I wanted was a cool Zelda newcomer. That's all.

One that doesn't suck (Zelda, Ganondorf) and isn't a clone (Link, Toon Link, Ganondorf).

Skull Kid would have been cool, I thought. Oh, he's an assist trophy? OK, there's still Tingle, right? Oh, he's an assist trophy too? Well Ghirahim would be pretty cool... assist trophy? ;_;

Now all we have left is Impa, and I don't even like her.

You're forgetting Pig Ganon and Vaati.

 

[Mr. KoopaTurtle]

It's annoying that Toon Link (or Lucina [Sakurai said she fights like Marth, so until I see otherwise, she's Marth in a skirt], or Dr. Mario, or Falco, etc) get playable slots with near identical movesets over and over, while characters with real true potential for original movesets like Midna (or Ghirahim, or Kyrstal, etc) are shoved aside into the AT category (or worse, actual trophies.)

I've always had a distaste for clones, even Luigi back in Smash 64. But they changed Luigi enough in Melee that he wasn't a green Mario anymore. Luigi (and Wolf) are clones done right; similar enough to the original that they hold true to the source, while differing enough to be their own character. N64 Luigi can't say that, Dr. Mario, Roy, and Melee Ganondorf can't say that. It's okay for them to be a clone for a one-time appearance, as long as they leave or evolve after that. But Toon Link has not changed since Melee (Young Link = Toon Link, deal with it) and that annoys the hell out of me. Evolve them to not be just a copy/paste palette swap of the original with one or two stats tweaks.

If they weren't such direct clones, there wouldn't be a problem with their inclusion.

Just my little rant on the subject.

I agree with you about Toon Link's wasted potential, but he was going to happen.

Toon Link is a veteran. He never really had to compete with potential Zelda newcomers. In addition, I think it makes sense for Toon Link to return. Despite his moveset, he is the main character of an extremely popular yet diverse entry in the Zelda series, and he also starred in two highly acclaimed Zelda DS titles. Ghirahim... I don't know really. Maybe Sakurai didn't think he has become notable enough yet. It is strange. All I do know is that Toon Link desereves HIS spot, regardless of his semi-clone moveset.

 

[L9999]

Zelda will not have newcomers, period. DON'T YOU PEOPLE DARE bringing up "but Mario and Pokemon have newcomers" argument. About Impa, the Impa you talk about has the same amount of game appearances as Girahim. It's always different Impas and most are old ladies that tell Link some destiny BS or the plot. Impa is not consistent in character. Link is, Zelda for the most part is, and Ganon has always been the same guy. Zelda, like Mario, already has the most important characters in the series, nobody is needed, and Zelda doesn't need to feed of it's own ego like Mario and Pokemon do. Sheik and Toon Link are just extras. Sheik only has popularity thanks to Melee and the gender debate, and Toon Link because Wind Waker and Hourglass.

 

[Enchlore]

Sakurai probably thought we got enough fanservice from that Zero Suit update.

 

[Aenglaan]

.... ****. First Dark Samus, now Girahim. Maybe we'll (finally) get a new moveset for Ganondorf?

 

[smileMasky]

just... the his face looks very plastic like its almost like a mask and not his face

 

[infomon]

.... ****. First Dark Samus, now Girahim. Maybe we'll (finally) get a new moveset for Ganondorf?

Dark Samus is a thing? Sounds like alt. costume potential.

 

[ihskeyp]

Zelda will not have newcomers, period. DON'T YOU PEOPLE DARE bringing up "but Mario and Pokemon have newcomers" argument. About Impa, the Impa you talk about has the same amount of game appearances as Girahim. It's always different Impas and most are old ladies that tell Link some destiny BS or the plot. Impa is not consistent in character. Link is, Zelda for the most part is, and Ganon has always been the same guy. Zelda, like Mario, already has the most important characters in the series, nobody is needed, and Zelda doesn't need to feed of it's own ego like Mario and Pokemon do. Sheik and Toon Link are just extras. Sheik only has popularity thanks to Melee and the gender debate, and Toon Link because Wind Waker and Hourglass.

So.... You decide who gets in the roster and you know for SURE that impa is not in just because she isn't 'a consistent character'?
You sound foolish. Nobody knows the roster.

 

[JE-AT]

That's cute. Now all I want Ghirahim to do, is to throw Master Swords at everyone and we'll call it even! >

 

[Moose of the Law]

People seriously thought he was going to be playable? He's only relevant to one game and a spin-off.

HI SHIEK, NESS, ROY, ICE CLIMBERS, AND LUCAS FANCY SEEING YOU HERE.

But seriously that arguement died a long time ago.

 

[Kai Zami]

WHAT IS THAT STAGE THOUGH???

Pokemon League

 

[Digital Hazard]

HI SHIEK, NESS, ROY, ICE CLIMBERS, AND LUCAS FANCY SEEING YOU HERE.

But seriously that arguement died a long time ago.

Sheik is Zelda, Ice Climbers are there to represent the NES days and are also the stars of their sole game, Fire Emblem and Earthbound are series whose casts change by game with very few recurring characters and most are minor anyway.

Ghirahim, on the other hand, though from a series whose supporting cast changes per game, always mantains its main cast: Link, Zelda and Ganondorf (most of the time), everyone else have little importance to the series in general.

 

[-Se7en-]

Ghirahim as an assist trophy? Do you know how that makes me feel?

FURIOUS! OUTRAGED! SICK WITH ANGER!

Well at least I can play as him in Hyrule Warriors.

 

[Fire Tactician]

So, I guess for Ghirahim supporters, today's PoTD was a real "Debbie Downer..." anyone?

Okay, I'll escort myself out of this thread.

 

[Pickledpotatoes]

Why do they want to deconfirm all the characters I want closer to the release?

Just show Isaac as a trophy or something so I can weep with closure

 

[L9999]

So.... You decide who gets in the roster and you know for SURE that imp aid not in just because she isn't 'a consistent character'?
You sound foolish. Nobody knows the roster.

I'll admit, I sound foolish, maybe Sakurai will prove me wrong on my speculation, but as the things are going I think Zelda will have no new reps, and I don't mind if a new one gets in, but the core characters of the Zelda series are already in. Just saying, and you are right on your statement.

 

[Da Black Rabbit]

Zelda will not have newcomers, period. DON'T YOU PEOPLE DARE bringing up "but Mario and Pokemon have newcomers" argument. About Impa, the Impa you talk about has the same amount of game appearances as Girahim. It's always different Impas and most are old ladies that tell Link some destiny BS or the plot. Impa is not consistent in character. Link is, Zelda for the most part is, and Ganon has always been the same guy. Zelda, like Mario, already has the most important characters in the series, nobody is needed, and Zelda doesn't need to feed of it's own ego like Mario and Pokemon do. Sheik and Toon Link are just extras. Sheik only has popularity thanks to Melee and the gender debate, and Toon Link because Wind Waker and Hourglass And Four Swords, and Four Swords Adventure, and Minish Cap.

...Fixed.

Though Melee might of been Sheik's intro into the fighting game world, she really has been around because she ALSO is the holder of the Triforce of Wisdom. It is debatle if we really need TWO Wisdom holders (Zelda and Shiek) just as much so as it is we really need to Courage holders (Link and Toon Link) but saying "lol your pokemon/Mario argument is invalid", especially with out reasoning, kinda makes your argument invalid.

If we want to be technical, Zelda isn't in every LoZ game, and NO main character of LoZ is ever featured in more than 3 games because of the whole "lol Multiple Timelines" and reincarnation thing. SS Zelda isn't OoT Zelda. TP Link isn't Oracle of Ages Link. Possible the only character that might actually be the same throughout the series is Ganondorf because he forever gets sealed away and resurrected.

Anyway... Sad that the Demon Lord himself isn't in. He was actually a really cool villain and I usually HATE the flamboyant questionably gay villain archetype. I rather of SS Impa or OoT Impa but I would have been glad to see such a unique character as Ghirahim just because he is unlike any other character in the LoZ universe. Glad he is in the game none the less.

I still hold hope for Impa and Vaati. Vaati would be nice because he could be the Toon Villain rep of LoZ and he's been in The Minish Cap and The Four Swords Adventure. LoZ needs a new rep just because they had 4 for two games now...

 

[RedFly]

All I wanted was a cool Zelda newcomer. That's all.

One that doesn't suck (Zelda, Ganondorf) and isn't a clone (Link, Toon Link, Ganondorf).

Skull Kid would have been cool, I thought. Oh, he's an assist trophy? OK, there's still Tingle, right? Oh, he's an assist trophy too? Well Ghirahim would be pretty cool... assist trophy? ;_;

Now all we have left is Impa, and I don't even like her.

Midna...

 

[Wasp]

midna is also assist trophy

 

[SmashBros50]

I suppose I''ll get my chance... another day... *dies*

 

[The21stSmasher]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

OMG.

What will all the gay smashers do. OMG NO!!!!!!!!

I mean we still have Princess Peach.

But WE HAD TO HAVE GIRAHIM.


LIKE OMG. What will silly kyle, SlayerZ, and all the other competitive gay smashers do.

OH OH~ I'm gonna faint.

OH GIRAHIM. Maybe in the next smash we will have hot gay tongue sex.

Really now? What the hell does the competitors have anything to do with Girahim's confirmation as a assist trophy?

 

[domriver]

I suppose I''ll get my chance... another day... *dies*

jajaja Funny.
To bad =/ I kinda wanted this guy to be a newcomer. At least Hyrule Warriors is there.

 

[Moose of the Law]

Sheik is Zelda, Ice Climbers are there to represent the NES days and are also the stars of their sole game, Fire Emblem and Earthbound are series whose casts change by game with very few recurring characters and most are minor anyway.

Ghirahim, on the other hand, though from a series whose supporting cast changes per game, always mantains its main cast: Link, Zelda and Ganondorf (most of the time), everyone else have little importance to the series in general.

Even if Shiek is Zelda, she only takes her Shiek form in one game in the Zelda series, soon to be twice.

The ICs representing the NES games still doesn't change the fact that they only appeared in one game before Melee.

Again, why does that matter? They've only been in one game, just like Girahim.

 

[THE_MAAFIA]

do you hear of what you're saying? smash 64 was release in 1999 banjo and conkers ips were bought in september 2002 around and between that time keeping characters who were already planned to be given to a company wouldn't make since at all

Ok, NOW YOU SEE MY POINT
He should be happy a character he likes is in the game, some people wish for characters to be in smash, maybe banjo might never make it, but will I stop wishing for banjo? F*** no!
Will Lady Bow make it into smash as a trophy? Probably not, I hope you see the point I am trying to get at, he should be happy he's in the game as an Assist

 

[L9999]

...Fixed.

Though Melee might of been Sheik's intro into the fighting game world, she really has been around because she ALSO is the holder of the Triforce of Wisdom. It is debatle if we really need TWO Wisdom holders (Zelda and Shiek) just as much so as it is we really need to Courage holders (Link and Toon Link) but saying "lol your pokemon/Mario argument is invalid", especially with out reasoning, kinda makes your argument invalid.

If we want to be technical, Zelda isn't in every LoZ game, and NO main character of LoZ is ever featured in more than 3 games because of the whole "lol Multiple Timelines" and reincarnation thing. SS Zelda isn't OoT Zelda. TP Link isn't Oracle of Ages Link. Possible the only character that might actually be the same throughout the series is Ganondorf because he forever gets sealed away and resurrected.

I already know that all Links and Zeldas are different, but it doesn't matter because all of their incarnations have similar character. All Links look and act the same, all Zeldas have slight differences but are basically the same character. Zelda doesn't need characters, they can have new characters, sure, but its character lineup is perfect until as it is if you include Ganondorf. Everybody added after them feels like an extra, but they can be in. And because all the potential new Zelda characters are being axed....Let's wait til September 13 to see what happens.

 

[smashingDoug]

Wanting to replace the recurring wielder of the Triforce of Power with a most likely one-off character is offensive.

and stupid

You're forgetting Pig Ganon and Vaati.

what about ganondorfs final smash come on it will be beast/pig ganon so pig ganon might just be a pipe dream

 

[Mega Bidoof]

and stupid

what about ganondorfs final smash come on it will be beast/pig ganon so pig ganon might just be a pipe dream

Pig Ganon is completely different from Beast Ganon.

If we can have Link and Toon Link, we can have Ganondorf and Ganon.

 

[A_Phoenix_Down]

Impa & Ganondorf are the only Zelda characters worth adding into Smash, since they had multiple appearances in the series in some form (Ganondorf originally started out as Ganon before the timeline was implemented and Impa has multiple different versions of herself, to be honest Impa should have replaced Sheik since she's only appeared in 1 Zelda game, being OoT and it's 3DS remake), again if Ganondorf gets cut, it's going to end up just like what happened when Mewtwo got axed in Brawl and it'll be worse since Ganondorf is on the levels of Bowser in terms of villain ranking.

I swear, if they cut Ganon from this game...