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Part 7 of a series discussing all 12 of the current franchises in Smash represented with more than one fighter.
Pokémon, being one of Nintendo's oldest series, has made its way to the top charts of video game sales. With nine pokémon currently in the roster, the series is predominately the most represented in Smash. As always, the opening poll discusses the roster. The opening topic is....
How would you feel if the Pokémon Trainer was split into three separate fighters instead of one fighter that switches between three?
I wouldn't mind it honestly. I'd rather avoid having to use Charizard at all costs if I'm honest as he does feel like dead weight dragging Squirtle and Ivysaur down. Not sure which way I'd go with it...
...alternatively keep them the same but don't switch on death. Like Robin's weapon breakage I know it's a mechanic in the game proper but it's also a handicap that isn't really needed in Smash IMO.
I wish they'd moved Pokemon swapping to Shield B so that the three 'mons at least had a fourth special. On the other hand, removing stamina and making the switching happen so fast means that it's hard to determine where Pokemon Trainer rests power-wise, so maybe it was a bit of a precaution. They could always remedy that in the next game, if not in a patch (which would be asking for a lot, of course).
I wish they'd moved Pokemon swapping to Shield B so that the three 'mons at least had a fourth special. On the other hand, removing stamina and making the switching happen so fast means that it's hard to determine where Pokemon Trainer rests power-wise, so maybe it was a bit of a precaution. They could always remedy that in the next game, if not in a patch (which would be asking for a lot, of course).
Yeah, come to think of it, switching Pokémon in the middle of a game is a rather cheap way of messing with the flow of a match. Firat you have to play aggressively against Zard, but then defensively against Squirtle or something like that.
From that perspective, just having them be separate is the superior choice for balance, but then we lose the fun of switching Pokémon like a real trainer.
I voted for separating them, but I don't think it would hurt to at least test them out both being switchable and having full movesets. At worst, Pokémon Trainer becomes a triple counterpick, but that can be patched. I'm not convinced that switching out Pokémon or transforming characters are ever practically more than a novelty or something that looks badass the one time in a hundred it helps (e.g., transforming into Zelda for her recovery).
No, I think Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard are all much better off under Pokemon Trainer's command.
The switching gimmick represents the Pokemon series much better than any other character, except for maybe Pikachu. It'd be like Robin without his durability mechanic, or Kirby without his Copy Ability gimmick. It just wouldn't feel right if the Kanto trio were separated. The game's about playing as your favorite character. What good would that be if they weren't at least mostly accurate? I mean, although I'd still probably be playing as Robin even if his durability mechanic wasn't in Smash, I think I would like playing as him a bit less.
Seeing how Samus and Zero Suit Samus are now separated fighters, as well as Zelda and Sheik, Pokemon Trainer is currently the only character to be unique in that aspect. There ARE some people who like the switching gimmick, after all. Like me! It allows for many new tactics and strategies to be made and used.
As a Down-B, it completely takes away a Special from each of them that they could really use. I agree with how it should be like Inkling's Shield-B instead.
No, I think Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard are all much better off under Pokemon Trainer's command.
The switching gimmick represents the Pokemon series much better than any other character, except for maybe Pikachu. It'd be like Robin without his durability mechanic, or Kirby without his Copy Ability gimmick. It just wouldn't feel right if the Kanto trio were separated. The game's about playing as your favorite character. What good would that be if they weren't at least mostly accurate? I mean, although I'd still probably be playing as Robin even if his durability mechanic wasn't in Smash, but I think I would like playing as him a bit less.
Seeing how Samus and Zero Suit Samus are now separated fighters, as well as Zelda and Sheik, Pokemon Trainer is currently the only character to be unique in that aspect. There ARE some people who like the switching gimmick, after all. Like me! It allows for many new tactics and strategies to be made and used.
As a Down-B, it completely takes away a Special from each of them that they could really use. I agree with how it should be like Inkling's Shield-B instead.
I feel that transformation mechanics would be better if they weren't as extreme as PT's. They should be more "restrained" in some way, like Link pulling out a spear or Ganondorf pulling out a sword. It would change only certain moves and not all of them.
PT's switching is fun, but it also ruins the flow of a game.
I find it mildly amusing that the Pokemon in Trainers squad all behave the opposite way you'd expect; Charizard despite being half flying type is pretty awful in the air, Squirtle; the tiny turtle Pokemon, is surprisingly fast and nimble and is a more offensive than defensive character...and Ivysaur is a pretty good anti aerial Pokemon despite grass types being weak to flying types.
I'd like them to still be with the Trainer so he/she could still be represented, so I'd prefer Shield+B to switch; an extra move for each Pokemon would be nice, though I don't really mind how they currently have it.
Now that Mimikyu is deconfirmed, I guess... Maybe Zeraora? idk if I had to choose any Pokemon newcomer that's feasible, I'd go with Raichu at this point
The only thing I ask of is the Pokemon that gets picked has some lasting star power. Very few Pokemon actually can claim that. Honestly I'm not even sure if I think all of Smash's Pokemon roster fits that description since we have Pichu and Ivysaur. I love them both but they're not really a big deal to Pokemon, with Ivy being the mid form between two more popular Pokemon and Baby Pokemon falling out of favour almost immedietly after Gen 2.
Pokemon like Gardevoir and Blaziken(to use two NON Genwun examples as I know people leap on that) have remained insanely popular throughout the years. I hope Greninja and Inciniroar uphold similar popularity for years to come. It's why Puff is usually the Smash 64 character people talk about being cut, unlike Pikachu, Zard, Squirtle, Mewtwo and arguably Lucario she's someone who was popular in the distant past but that starpower ran out a few games ago.
Also one of the reasons I've always argued Meowth would have been a better choice for an anime based Pokemon choice. Due to the anime he'll always remain relevant and one of the most iconic Pokemon of all time due to Team Rocket. Eevee is similarly a big deal even after years and years have passed.
I find it odd how my favorite non-smash Nintendo series is ironically my least favorite in smash by representation. 64 was fine because that game barely represented anything except for the absolute minimum of series plus Earthbound for flavor. Sure, stopped being relevant after Melee, but that applies to a lot of Melee reps, and yet we bring 'em back anyway because competitive scene loves that game so ****in' much. Then we get Melee, which gave us , who was a perfect inclusion. As much as I love , they definitely wouldn't be my first pick for a 4th Melee rep for PKMN (hell, Pichu isn't even in my top ten in that regard). However, since Sakurai probably wouldn't have bothered with a 4th rep if it weren't a clone character of some sort, Raichu is practically chopped liver to Nintendo, and because Pichu didn't come back until Ultimate, I tolerate them being in Smash. Plus, Pichu is cute, and how can you say no to such an adorable face?
Brawl is where things really start goin' downhill. First they cut Mewtwo, which was an act of sacrilege so offensive that it makes the Phillips CDI incident seem acceptable by comparison. Then, completely ignoring Gens 2 and 3, they skip right over to (although Lucario themself was a good pick). I somewhat understand them not bothering with a Gen 2 rep, as it fell by the wayside awhile ago, but Brawl was the best time to give us a Gen 3 rep, and they completely blew it. And to top it all off, they add perhaps my most hated character in Smash: . He heavily bloats the Pokemon roster to 9 when it only feels like 7 (at the time of his release, 6 when it only felt like 4), his Pokemon are completely lopsided in their growth (Why evolve Charizard twice but neglect Squirtle completely? are you sure we put Red in Smash and not Ash Ketchum? because he's certainly managing his team like an Ash Ketchum), he has that stupid*** stamina gimmick everyone hates, and of the three Pokemon he has chained to eachother, you get a turtle who feels completely worthless, a plant that can't recover worth a damn, and a dragon that can't do jack **** except cheese boss fights in SSE because
Smash 4 was promising, but ultimately failed to deliver for me. Pokemon Trainer's out, thank Arceus, but his stays in and is just as clunky as last time (only now with a recoil attack that's ironically only useful as a recovery move), and then there's Greninja. I'll admit, when was first announced, I thought he was a decent inclusion. It would be until much later until I realized A) This pretty much meant no Gen 5 rep, and B) Gens 6 and 7 have significantly less Pokemon to pull from then the other generations, and even fewer fan-favorites outside of Mega Evolutions and Alola's regional variants. In hindsight, Greninja feels less like an organic and fun inclusion and more like a "yeah, Game Freak and the Pokemon fanbase don't give a **** about any new Pokemon other then the Starters, so why should we?" It doesn't help that Greninja plays like a bad Street Fighter or Tekken impersonation, in a constant state of stop-and-go that makes the frog feel stuttery and clunky, as opposed to other smash characters like , and who all feel smooth and elegant.
And now we have Ultimate, which feels like a family reunion of Pokemon's embarrassing mistakes that makes me want to lie down on a set of subway tracks and forget that Pokemon was ever a Nintendo series. And then I remember Pokken is a thing and I realize that the C-train can't get here soon enough so not even Pokemon can get repping Pokemon right. So when I hear about Decidueye and Incineroar, with no mention of Primarina whatsoever, I get legit sh00k. Not because I don't like the two, I think all three of them are decent starter designs with neat personality, but holy ****, I don't think I can take much more scattershot starter picks without wanting to just purge Pokemon from Smash entirely.
Leave Pokemon Trainer as it is, it's such a staple of Pokemon battles that you switch strategically, and I like that this character gets to keep that. I also like the way it enables an entire set of starters to exist without propelling one to stardom while killing the others (see: Greninja)
Which leads to the topic of pokemon from latest gens.
The main two that I wish would happen for Smash Ultimate are Guzma + Golisopod and Primarina, and I'll explain why for each.
For Golisopod, because we don't really have anything like it. It's a giant bug-type that belongs to the latest addition to the evil team pantheon. While we could argue that Mewtwo is loosely connected with Giovanni and team rocket, as whole he mostly just represents himself now and one doesn't think of an evil team when seeing Mewtwo, but of a powerful legendary.
By being placed with Guzma, Golisopod would also enable for a trainer character to be acknowledged in Smash via animations and voice lines. And Guzma is honestly one of the most likable additions to Pokemon, at least lately, so I'd be super down for this.
Then moveset-wise you can have inclusion of other guzma bug types in moves (recovery with a flying masquerain? have ariados set a web trap that stuns or slows players?), or even if just by itself it could have particularly unique mechanics because of both First Impression and Emergency Exit.
Also it's a giant bug pokemon that is as fierce as it is cute.
Then there's Primarina. There's even more bias in this one, but basically I want her in because
- she was my starter
- her movement and moveset would forcibly be super unique
- I grew tired of everyone talking about Incineroar and Decidueye while shunting Primarina to the side and would LOVE for all of that to get shut down
Now, with this latest one, my ideal would actually be a Rowlet, Torracat, Primarina pokemon trainer from alola, like Kukui or the main character. However, I see that as very unlikely. In general though, I do agree that the whole point of starters is for people to choose who they like most and I get annoyed at pokemon company deciding for us who gets to be the important one. As such, I'm cool with the mentality of all starters from a gen or no starters from that gen.
honorable mentions:
- Eevee, Gengar and Gardevoir: all these three pokemon have significant fame and would properly represent new aspects of Pokemon not available to us yet (evolution, ghost types, gen 3)
For the poll, I voted no because all of Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon has four attacks, their neutral, side and up special, as well as their attack in triple finish.
With newcomers, I find it hard because there are three big categories when it comes to popular pokemon, those from Kanto, the starters and the (peusdo) legendaries. There are some exceptions like Lucario, Mimikyu, Gardevoir and technically some of the Eeveelutions, but even then those pokemon are sometimes not as popular as the pokemon who are.
What I don't like about using Shield + B is that it won't allow you to switch in the air. Besides, switching can be a potentially powerful mechanic after all the buffs it's received, so losing out on a down special isn't really that big of a deal imo.
Anyway, what I really love about the trainer's current inclusion isn't just that they represent the team-based aspect of Pokemon really well but also that it makes its fairly straitforward Squirtle and Charizard have something really unique to them. I'd hate to say it, but without his buddies, Charizard is really a Bowser 2.0. Yeah Zard has a ton of differences and isn't even really a semi-clone but he has a really similar feel to Bowser in play style, even more similar then a lot of true semi-clones have to their counterparts. Now that his partners are back, he finally has a chance to really stand out from his fellow heavy weights. It's a bit ironic that sharing the spotlight is what takes for him to get more attention, but I love Squirt and Ivy as well so I'll happily take it.
On an unrelated note, you should be able to swap twice before respawn invincibility wears off, so forced switching upon death isn't actually that big of a deal.
And now we have Ultimate, which feels like a family reunion of Pokemon's embarrassing mistakes that makes me want to lie down on a set of subway tracks and forget that Pokemon was ever a Nintendo series. And then I remember Pokken is a thing and I realize that the C-train can't get here soon enough. So when I hear about Decidueye and Incineroar, with no mention of Primarina whatsoever, I get legit sh00k. Not because I don't like the two, I think all three of them are decent starter designs with neat personality, but holy ****, I don't think I can take much more scattershot starter picks without wanting to just purge Pokemon from Smash entirely.
That doesn't have to be the case. We only say "shield B" because you just preas the shield button and B at the same time.
I think the only aerial problem with Shield B is how it could lead to some cheap invincibility exploits combined with the air dodge. To address that, I think you should only be able to Shield B during the first few frames of the air dodge.
Leave Pokemon Trainer as it is, it's such a staple of Pokemon battles that you switch strategically, and I like that this character gets to keep that. I also like the way it enables an entire set of starters to exist without propelling one to stardom while killing the others (see: Greninja)
Which leads to the topic of pokemon from latest gens.
The main two that I wish would happen for Smash Ultimate are Guzma + Golisopod and Primarina, and I'll explain why for each.
For Golisopod, because we don't really have anything like it. It's a giant bug-type that belongs to the latest addition to the evil team pantheon. While we could argue that Mewtwo is loosely connected with Giovanni and team rocket, as whole he mostly just represents himself now and one doesn't think of an evil team when seeing Mewtwo, but of a powerful legendary.
By being placed with Guzma, Golisopod would also enable for a trainer character to be acknowledged in Smash via animations and voice lines. And Guzma is honestly one of the most likable additions to Pokemon, at least lately, so I'd be super down for this.
Then moveset-wise you can have inclusion of other guzma bug types in moves (recovery with a flying masquerain? have ariados set a web trap that stuns or slows players?), or even if just by itself it could have particularly unique mechanics because of both First Impression and Emergency Exit.
Also it's a giant bug pokemon that is as fierce as it is cute.
Then there's Primarina. There's even more bias in this one, but basically I want her in because
- she was my starter
- her movement and moveset would forcibly be super unique
- I grew tired of everyone talking about Incineroar and Decidueye while shunting Primarina to the side and would LOVE for all of that to get shut down
Now, with this latest one, my ideal would actually be a Rowlet, Torracat, Primarina pokemon trainer from alola, like Kukui or the main character. However, I see that as very unlikely. In general though, I do agree that the whole point of starters is for people to choose who they like most and I get annoyed at pokemon company deciding for us who gets to be the important one. As such, I'm cool with the mentality of all starters from a gen or no starters from that gen.
honorable mentions:
- Eevee, Gengar and Gardevoir: all these three pokemon have significant fame and would properly represent new aspects of Pokemon not available to us yet (evolution, ghost types, gen 3)
I like the idea of "Alola Pokemon Trainer" a lot. I'm a Rowlet supporter (not Decidueye) and by having it paired with Torracat and Primarina, we could have 3 extremely unique fighters solely by virtue of how they move: Rowlet is a bird so it'd fly around, Torracat is a quadruped of which there are only 2 others in the game (Ivysaur and Duck Hunt Duo), and Primarina would be the very first pinniped, and I'd LOVE to see how one of those moves around and fights. This trio already sounds more unique than only getting Decidueye or only getting Incineroar.
I agree that keeping down B to switch is ideal, shield B means you can't switch in the air, like others pointed out, and I love the idea of switching to Primarina in midair to belly flop on other fighters.
I voted to keep the three as is. Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard having a fourth special would be nice, but I feel like having all three of them as seperate fighters on the character select screen would only further emphasize just how overrepresented the first generation is. Which I'll admit is a rather petty/strange point, but ever since generation six went deep into the Kanto-pandering which has stuck with the series ever since, anything relating to that generation just leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.
Just about all of the new fighters that I'd want for Pokémon are from later generations, so I'll just make it a list. In general though, I just feel like there really should be playable characters from generations three and five.
Grovyle: As a representative of both generation three, as well as the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games. It has always quite bothered me how so many of Mario's spin-offs can get something to show for in Smash, but with Pokémon, there's absolutely nothing. Between his already defined moveset as well as the various PMD items, I feel like there'd be enough to pull from.
Hoenn Pokémon Trainer: This one's probably one of the more popular opinions here. Another Pokémon Trainer with Pokémon from a later generation would just be perfect, and I feel the Hoenn starters are particularly well-suited for this. I personally would go with Mudkip, Grovyle and Blaziken for the character choices (in particular because Blaziken is I feel the most popular fully-evolved starter out of the set? Not certain on that, though), but I could also see other configurations working, like Torchic, Marshtomp and Sceptile.
Zoroark (+ N): I get that Zoroark isn't exactly the most popular Pokémon in the world, since it was conceived as an obvious Lucario clone. But still, I feel like it's a good Pokémon in its own right. I'll admit that I have no idea how its illusion ability could work in Smash, but to be fair, its PokéBall appearance in Smash 4 didn't really account for that, either. As for N, I feel like he could work well as a background element similar to Pokémon Trainer, especially since he did canonically use a Zoroark in the final battle of Black and White.
Lycanroc: This one I admittedly haven't put much thought into. I've just seen some people show support for Lycanroc, and honestly, even with giving it little thought even in regards to which form to use, I'd still take it over Incineroar.
Zeroara: Punching lightning cat! It's pretty cool. I think it could even work as a simple Lucario Echo Fighter that lacks the aura mechanic, which is a concept that I feel would also go over pretty well with players.
Leave Pokemon Trainer as it is, it's such a staple of Pokemon battles that you switch strategically, and I like that this character gets to keep that. I also like the way it enables an entire set of starters to exist without propelling one to stardom while killing the others (see: Greninja)
Which leads to the topic of pokemon from latest gens.
The main two that I wish would happen for Smash Ultimate are Guzma + Golisopod and Primarina, and I'll explain why for each.
For Golisopod, because we don't really have anything like it. It's a giant bug-type that belongs to the latest addition to the evil team pantheon. While we could argue that Mewtwo is loosely connected with Giovanni and team rocket, as whole he mostly just represents himself now and one doesn't think of an evil team when seeing Mewtwo, but of a powerful legendary.
By being placed with Guzma, Golisopod would also enable for a trainer character to be acknowledged in Smash via animations and voice lines. And Guzma is honestly one of the most likable additions to Pokemon, at least lately, so I'd be super down for this.
Then moveset-wise you can have inclusion of other guzma bug types in moves (recovery with a flying masquerain? have ariados set a web trap that stuns or slows players?), or even if just by itself it could have particularly unique mechanics because of both First Impression and Emergency Exit.
Also it's a giant bug pokemon that is as fierce as it is cute.
Then there's Primarina. There's even more bias in this one, but basically I want her in because
- she was my starter
- her movement and moveset would forcibly be super unique
- I grew tired of everyone talking about Incineroar and Decidueye while shunting Primarina to the side and would LOVE for all of that to get shut down
Now, with this latest one, my ideal would actually be a Rowlet, Torracat, Primarina pokemon trainer from alola, like Kukui or the main character. However, I see that as very unlikely. In general though, I do agree that the whole point of starters is for people to choose who they like most and I get annoyed at pokemon company deciding for us who gets to be the important one. As such, I'm cool with the mentality of all starters from a gen or no starters from that gen.
honorable mentions:
- Eevee, Gengar and Gardevoir: all these three pokemon have significant fame and would properly represent new aspects of Pokemon not available to us yet (evolution, ghost types, gen 3)
Ohh, I also like those concepts. Having Guzma as a "single-Pokémon Pokémon Trainer" like how I envision Zoroark and N would especially pretty neat. And of course, I also love the idea of Primarina being in, since it was my favourite starter line of the bunch. (Kinda like how I gravitated towards Oshawott once it became clear that it was unfairly hated by so many people.)
Is Gen 5 one of the latest ones? Because if so, that should be obvious. If it's too early, then I think Aegislash would make a great and unique fighter. It and Mega Blaziken formed my GOAT Pokemon team in Gen 6 as well, so I have some emotional bias for it.
I am so, so excited to have Ivysaur back. Maybe I just love green reptiles, but she was by far my favorite of the PT trio. That being said, why not just switch with one of the Taunts?
Anyway, I'm pretty disappointed at how not-popular Crabrawler became. That punching pincer was my favorite of Gen VII, but it really never seemed to take off. Is it just not marketable enough? I imagine his moveset to have lots of punching attacks, of course, but also Scald and Crabhammer. His final smash could have summoned an avalanche of Crabominable to come charging down a snowy mountain. I just love that blue thing.
I know no one asked me this question, but it's been on my mind lately, and this seemed like an appropriate place to post it:
Pokémon is my favorite series, and I'm thrilled it has so many reps, but I still think the Pokémon roster is kinda... iffy. I would love to have representation from every generation. Here's what I would do if it were up to me:
Gen I - I generally wouldn't ever want to make any cuts to the roster, but if I were to do it, this is definitely the generation to cut from. Jigglypuff hasn't been relevant in forever, so get it out of there. Pokémon Trainer is nice, but if I'm making cuts, who should I keep? Ivysaur is definitely gone, it's irrelevant and I personally just don't like it all that much. Out of Squirtle and Charizard, Charizard is definitely the more iconic of the two (and just my favorite of the two), so it gets to stay. So from the first generation, we have Pikachu, Mewtwo, and Charizard. Gen I is still undoubtedly the most popular to this day, so I think it's fair that it gets three reps.
Gen II - While I get why Pichu was originally put in, it isn't really the best representation of Gen II. Again, I'm not crazy about cuts, but if I were to do it, Pichu would be a pretty easy one. In its place, I would put Tyranitar. It's awesome, it's a pseudo legendary which we don't currently have in Smash, and it's a Dark-type, which was introduced in Gen II.
Gen III - Gen III is my least favorite generation. I don't like the games, I don't like the Pokémon, I'm just not a fan. So it took me a while to decide who I wanted in from Gen III. I hate Sceptile, and Blaziken isn't much better to me. Maybe Gardevoir? I guess, but it would probably just be a Mewtwo echo. I finally decided on Plusle and Minun. They'd be unique, they were almost in Brawl, and they're alright as far as Pikaclones go. So we'll go with them.
Gen IV - Lucario is cool. No change.
Gen V - Gen V is my second least favorite, but I absolutely love Zoroark. Yeah, you could take the easy way and make it a Lucario echo, but you could also give it a completely unique moveset and make it awesome. I'd also love to see its Imposter ability come into play, although I admit I have no idea how that would work.
Gen VI - Greninja is great. Huge fan, my favorite water starter. No change.
Gen VII - I know people think we're getting Incineroar. I really, really hope not, though. My favorite Pokémon from this generation is Mimikyu, but I think there's a better option for a fighter. That option is Decidueye. I'm usually not at all interested in the grass starters, but my god, is Decidueye fantastic. Plus, I really want an archer in Smash. Decidueye just hits all of the bells for me. And I know Sakurai doesn't care about this (or any of this, really), but Charizard, Greninja, and Decidueye are my favorite starters of the three starter types, and I'd just love seeing that trinity complete.
TL;DR - If I were to decide Pokémon representation in Smash, I would include Pikachu, Mewtwo, Charizard, Tyranitar, Plusle and Minun, Lucario, Zoroark, Greninja, and Decidueye.
I find the idea of equally reprenting every generation a little pointless. I think each pokemon should be chosen for its own merits. Gen 1 has the most pokemon because its pokemon are the most iconic, its as simple as that.
And don't get me wrong, I'm no genwunner. Black and White were my favorite games in the series and I have a huge love for Hoenn, but it doesn't bother me at all that neither has playable characters because I don't care for arbitrary "generational representation". As much as I'd love Sceptile and Zoraork I'm content with what we have now.
Pokemon Trainer is my favorite. And I really love the concept of transforming characters, I wish there were more of them.
That said, Project M showed me the potential for the three of them as separate characters. PM Ivysaur is, I firmly believe, the greatest designed character in Smash Bros history. If we could have had that in Ultimate I'd absolutely be on board. I'd be concerned that splitting them would end up with us just having Traitorzard again though and I am not about that life. Greninja's reveal trailer was the darkest of days.
I don't think Pokemon is over-represented in the slightest. That franchise is a goldmine of fun and iconic character designs, and unlike FE, only a very small number of fans seem disturbed by the pokemon roster count. Every pokemon except Pichu brings a unique character design and moveset or play style with them, so they're all great additions to the roster.
Yeah they have a character count to rival Mario's (I count DK and Yoshi as both Mario reps and their own franchise reps, not just one or the other btw), but Pokemon has far more iconic designs then Mario does since that's what Pokemon is about to begin with.
Generally "overrepresented" or "underrepresented" is really just an excuse people use when they need something to blame for their favorite newcomer of choice doesn't make the cut anyway, so I try to avoid that mentality. I think every character should be judge by its own merits, not some fan-made "representation" rules. I'm starting to sound like a broken record, aren't I?
I've got mixed feelings.
I really just want to solo main Ivysaur, so it'd be cool if you didn't switch Pokémon automatically every time you lost a stock.
I've got mixed feelings.
I really just want to solo main Ivysaur, so it'd be cool if you didn't switch Pokémon automatically every time you lost a stock.
As I mentioned before, switching is fast enough now that you should be able to switch twice before respawn invincibility wears off. Forced switching shouldn't be anything more then a minor inconvenience.
As I mentioned before, switching is fast enough now that you should be able to switch twice before respawn invincibility wears off. Forced switching shouldn't be anything more then a minor inconvenience.
I like it as a concept.
And with the changes they made (no penalty for sticking with one, choosing wich one you wan to start with), you can basically main only one of them, just missing the down B...
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stopped being relevant after Melee, but that applies to a lot of Melee reps, and yet we bring 'em back anyway because competitive scene loves that game so ****in' much. Then we get Melee, which gave us 
