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Just give me a Surface Runner from Metroid 2 remix already jesus why does this banger always get overlooked?
Certainly no stereotype, but I'd agree that there's been a lack of variation in the Metroid stages. If I weren't already a fan, there'd be little in Smash outside of Brinstar Depths to show me the scope of Samus's adventures. Really surprised Phaaze or the Artifact Temple didn't make it in over Orpheon. SR388 would be nice, too.
I've had ridiculous intimations that the super/infant/baby metroid would be a fun curveball character if the AT didn't exist. Multiple jumps, movement like bowser jnr., command grabs, healing mechanic. To throw lore to the wind, have it quickly grow the limbs of different metroid forms for smash attacks and specials ("the strange atmosphere in the world of Smash has caused it to mutate!")
Chozo music has to have spooky choirs, maybe incorporate some Lower Norfair.
Well, between Planet Zebes, Brinstar, Brinstar Depths and Norfair, I'd forgive someone for thinking lava was an emphasis of the series.
I've honestly yet to see someone who has crafted their own image of Metroid based solely around the lava stages in Smash. Pretty sure most people's idea is that it's about a bounty hunter in space (that was my first impression after being exposed to Metroid for the first time in Smash 64). I'll consider it a problem if if the general public's view on the franchise starts matching that notion.
The whole scope of a game will never be accurately represented with a few stages in a fighting game, even with the devs' best intentions in my mind for those particular franchises. There are just too many climatic moments and memorable set pieces that it would be a logistical nightmare trying to do them all justice.
It's less a full idea of the scope and more the lack of focus on creative variation. It’s also not that this is resulting in people getting tame impressions of Metroid environments, more that it’s not going to do anything to push the opposite. I’d be curious about how the Kirby games encapsulate both Fountain of Dreams and Halberd, or how Mother transitions from the very human Onett to the monstrous New Pork City. There’s little in this vein for Metroid barring Brinstar Depths, as I said and as you touched on – you want to know what that Godzilla is. By contrast, Orpheon and Pyrosphere are relatively standard sci-fi designs (the latter also crippled by the Ridley debacle); and Norfair and Brinstar both utilize similar environmental hazards despite ‘looking’ opposite.
At this point they may as well just add an 'arm canon' item that actually fires Samus's beams!
I don't really care. It's not like she has any other alternative to the stun gun.
I don't mind them, some say they are unnecesary but they are a buff and adds to her being more unique I guess.
I think ZSS wasn't a great addition to the roster to begin with, and the rocket boots are an admission of that. They had to invent something to make the character interesting enough for the roster, which is kind of a slap in the face when Dark Samus and Ridley would have made for much better characters even back in Brawl, without any creative license. This got really silly after the Sakurai interview where he said Ridley wouldn't work because shrinking him down would make the character "not Ridley anymore," but giving ZSS rocket boots is okay.
Dark Samus may have worked, yes, but Ridley? They couldn't just copy his Prime model (organic rendition or not) and make a playable character out of it. They needed a model with the right arm-to-torso-to-leg ratio for it to work. Ultimate just had them throw their hands up and make a model from scratch.
Sakurai's the kind of guy who wants to move on from a project. I can't really see his team giving major long-term support like with Splatoon.
I completely understand the difficulty in getting Ridley to work as a playable character, which is why I give Sakurai a lot of praise for his work with him in Ultimate. Ridley is pretty much perfect in Ultimate, both in design and moves, but that took a lot of thought and work, which is why he'd been so doubtful of the idea for so long.
Do you have problems with his Smash design, or his canon designs? I personally like all of them.
Eternally agreed. I really don't understand Sakurai's apparent concern about alienating current players. There's a gradient through which you can make a character more accurate to their source material: visual changes (model, stance, taunts, animations) > attribute changes (weight, speed, etc.) > visual changes to moves while keeping the same or similar frame data/knockback, etc. > addition of attributes to certain moves (sweetspots, elemental effects) > replacement of moves generally considered bad > significant replacement of multiple moves > complete revamp.
For items, I can think of a few.
To be fair, Sakurai's apparent fear of alienating players is just speculation.
Alienating players? What was this?
Do you mean making people mad because of changes to character movesets, or how I dislike the changes to Link and Bowser?
No I'm just curious why you chose the word "alienating."
Because changing something that has been the same for years will make the vast majority of people mad.
That makes sense. It would be better to put something new on a newcomer instead of an older fighter.
The opposite could also be true - that is, have a new fighter or echo "inherit" a classic fighter's moves and attributes, while giving the original a couple of new tools to try out. It would make sense to make Samus heavier while keeping Dark Samus "floaty", for example, or to have a Dry Bowser echo with melee-style moves.
Now that you mention it, Samus would probably be better as a heavyweight. It's confusing for her to launch easily whilst being in a suit of armor.
