Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Ramen Tengoku]

First Travis. This week's casualty? Master Chief.

Well, I guess that means the Microsoft character is more likely to be Banjo or Steve, now...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Watch that we instead get Arbiter.

 

[Idon]

You liked Chief and/or Travis?

I understand that. Chief was one of my four picks! Oh well, it was a long shot, and if there's a wave 2 there's a chance...another day.

Well, more Travis than Chief.

 

[KingofKoopas]

You liked Chief and/or Travis?

I understand that. Chief was one of my four picks! Oh well, it was a long shot, and if there's a wave 2 there's a chance...another day.

Travis, not so much Chief as i honestly see him as an obstacle in the way of

This BEAUTIFUL son of a *****.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Also when was Travis disconfirmed as well?

 

[KingofKoopas]

My apologies guys. I'm not too knowledgeable about the Halo franchise. Never played the games.

youre in good company with me then.

 

[Wyoming]

Watch that we instead get Arbiter.

I'd take it.

He'd come with the Energy Sword. That's enough. Also the Sanghelli grunts would be worth the 5.99 alone. WORT WORT

 

[KingofKoopas]

Wow its quiet. Forgive me I been hiding out awhile to not be spoiled but... How long has this thread been a Ghost Town?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Wow its quiet. Forgive me I been hiding out awhile to not be spoiled but... How long has this thread been a Ghost Town?

Not too sure. Its been like this for a while now. Many are too busy playing Ultimate.

 

[KarneraMythos]

TBH I wouldn't mind a nerf on Roller if there really is a need for it, but I hear and see conflicting things about it. Makes it hard to tell if something legit needs to be done or if people are knee-jerking like with K. Rool.

Time will tell, I guess. It's not like nerfing Roller would even hurt Inkling that much, though; Nair, Fair, and D-Throw into Up-Air are all still great, and they would still have a great projectile and movement game.

It's not so much the roller that needs nerfing as it is the pitfall effect in general. It's way too good given how the grabs that induce the effect (i.e. K.Rool, ROB, etc.) requires you to close in, potentially whiff it, and get punished accordingly. Now imagine the Roller, except it activates up close immediately, has the same end result as some of the down grabs I mentioned with none of the drawbacks, and couple their dash-dancing and you are either going to get thrown off stage and Fair'd to death, or you get buried and charge-smashed to death. The thing is, they'd still be solid characters either way, but the pitfall mechanic itself is unforgiving and needs some fine-tuning.

 

[Graizen]

Created another art to support Agumon in Smash.
Hope you guys like it

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

First Travis. This week's casualty? Master Chief.

Are we certain this isn't an NDA that allows for them to deny it? Otherwise, that means Dante is out of the running too after what Matt Walker said.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Otherwise, that means Dante is out of the running too after what Matt Walker said.

Whelp in that case I'm replacing Dante with Monster Hunter/Phoenix Wright on my prediction list.

Banjo-Kazooie
Erdrick
Lloyd Irving
Monster Hunter/Phoenix Wright

 

[Idon]

Are we certain this isn't an NDA that allows for them to deny it? Otherwise, that means Dante is out of the running too after what Matt Walker said.

What has Matt said?

 

[Deleted member]

It's not so much the roller that needs nerfing as it is the pitfall effect in general. It's way too good given how the grabs that induce the effect (i.e. K.Rool, ROB, etc.) requires you to close in, potentially whiff it, and get punished accordingly. Now imagine the Roller, except it activates up close immediately, has the same end result as some of the down grabs I mentioned with none of the drawbacks, and couple their dash-dancing and you are either going to get thrown off stage and Fair'd to death, or you get buried and charge-smashed to death. The thing is, they'd still be solid characters either way, but the pitfall mechanic itself is unforgiving and some fine-tuning.

Yeah, I could see the effect itself being the problem rather than the move. K. Rool's is especially cheesy, as it kills at like 50%.

Thanks for the in-depth response!

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

What has Matt said?

Lol no, he is not. ^^

— Matt Walker (@retroOtoko) August 24, 2018

That Dante ain't in essentially. Unless we've got NDAs that allow for folk to lie.

 

[KarneraMythos]

Created another art to support Agumon in Smash.
Hope you guys like it

View attachment 184114

Constructive criticism coming your way: Wouldn't it make more sense to put Agumon side-by-side with Pokemon Trainer's team? You could showcase his base form, Greymon, and Wargreymon at the end with Charizard, to juxtapose how both series' handle "evolution".

 

[perfectchaos83]

Also when was Travis disconfirmed as well?

Couple days ago. THere was a 2 hour No More Heroes stream and Suda literally started with "Travis isn't going to be in Smash, maybe next time"

 

[Wyoming]

Lol no, he is not. ^^

— Matt Walker (@retroOtoko) August 24, 2018

That Dante ain't in essentially. Unless we've got NDAs that allow for folk to lie.

Base game and DLC aren't the same project plan.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Couple days ago. THere was a 2 hour No More Heroes stream and Suda literally started with "Travis isn't going to be in Smash, maybe next time"

Ah.

Well looks like Travis, Dante and Master Chief can then join Ashley, Isaac, Shadow, Skull Kid and Waluigi in the grave.

 

[Graizen]

Constructive criticism coming your way: Wouldn't it make more sense to put Agumon side-by-side with Pokemon Trainer's team? You could showcase his base form, Greymon, and Wargreymon at the end with Charizard, to juxtapose how both series' handle "evolution".

Yeah...
But i think Pikachu is more iconic for this.
I don't know why.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Base game and DLC aren't the same project plan.

There's nothing suggesting him to be DLC. And quite frankly, considering the time they were planning DLC, if Dante were supposedly being discussed, I highly doubt NDAs would allow even a mention.

 

[KarneraMythos]

Yeah...
But i think Pikachu is more iconic for this.
I don't know why.

I believe it's the most advertised one so that makes it a mascot of sorts, yeah. Maybe include an alternate version as well?

Yeah, I could see the effect itself being the problem rather than the move. K. Rool's is especially cheesy, as it kills at like 50%.

Thanks for the in-depth response!

K.Rool's can be waggled out of at that percentage. I'd say that at around 70% or higher is where you might need to be careful. The one advantage to fighting K.Rool though is that he's everywhere online. I do exceptionally better against him than with rarer characters.

And of course, dude!

Lol no, he is not. ^^

— Matt Walker (@retroOtoko) August 24, 2018

That Dante ain't in essentially. Unless we've got NDAs that allow for folk to lie.

Literally every Dev, Director, Producer, etc. ever approached for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate news (so far) that has said "no" to whatever they're approached for, has actually meant No. In fact, Kamiya lowkey deconfirmed him already, BUT there is a silver lining to supporters like me. It implies that Kamiya M I G H T approach Sakurai and negotiate a second Fighter's Pass. They already have good relations outside the clock, so it's just a matter of "When" at this point. I figured it's worth bringing this up as to hype responsibly.

 

[Roberk]

First Travis. This week's casualty? Master Chief.

DAMN IT

He was a long shot but he was a long shot that would’ve been in its own league of crazy Smash additions. I don’t even know who to rally behind at this point...

 

[Idon]

I believe it's the most advertised one so that makes it a mascot of sorts, yeah. Maybe include an alternate version as well?



K.Rool's can be waggled out of at that percentage. I'd say that at around 70% or higher is where you might need to be careful. The one advantage to fighting K.Rool though is that he's everywhere online. I do exceptionally better against him than with rarer characters.

And of course, dude!



Literally every Dev, Director, Producer, etc. ever approached for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate news (so far) that has said "no" to whatever they're approached for, has actually meant No. In fact, Kamiya lowkey deconfirmed him already, BUT there is a silver lining to supporters like me. It implies that Kamiya M I G H T approach Sakurai and negotiate a second Fighter's Pass. They already have good relations outside the clock, so it's just a matter of "When" at this point. I figured it's worth bringing this up as to hype responsibly.

Err, Kamiya currently has nothing to do with Dante.

You'll be looking more for Itsuno and co. for deconfirmations.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Literally every Dev, Director, Producer, etc. ever approached for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate news (so far) that has said "no" to whatever they're approached for, has actually meant No. In fact, Kamiya lowkey deconfirmed him already, BUT there is a silver lining to supporters like me. It implies that Kamiya M I G H T approach Sakurai and negotiate a second Fighter's Pass. They already have good relations outside the clock, so it's just a matter of "When" at this point. I figured it's worth bringing this up as to hype responsibly.

Exactly! And even later on, there was another hit against Dante in October!

Yeah, that late in? Definitely not looking good for Dante's chances.

 

[Deleted member]

Wow its quiet. Forgive me I been hiding out awhile to not be spoiled but... How long has this thread been a Ghost Town?

To be blunt, forums as a whole are pretty much dying, especially with sites like Reddit and twitter rising in popularity relatively recently.

 

[KarneraMythos]

DAMN IT

He was a long shot but he was a long shot that would’ve been in its own league of crazy Smash additions. I don’t even know who to rally behind at this point...

The only time we'd ever see Master Chief in Smash is if competing console companies find a middle ground where cross-promotion of each other's 1st-party mascots helps each other as opposed to being financially-suicidal for either side. Like, in a future where both Nintendo and Microsoft openly support the notion of owning both consoles per consumer's home, like a glorious mix of red and green (helps these two colors compliment each other).

Err, Kamiya currently has nothing to do with Dante.

You'll be looking more for Itsuno and co. for deconfirmations.

I am well aware of that, but consider that Kamiya has a seat in Smash at the moment. He would know if Dante is in the game (or not) by now, considering Bayonetta's placement in it, as with the other Bayonetta-related content.

 

[Icedragonadam]

So.....

3rd Party RIP List so far

Travis Touchdown
Master Chief
Dante
Every other Sega rep?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Alright, just matched with a laggy Peach with a Japanese name.

Now, I don't want to make assumptions here, but... are we sure this guy is from the US?

obviously There is gonna be lag if you are fighting a dude all the way in Japan

 

[KarneraMythos]

obviously There is gonna be lag if you are fighting a dude all the way in Japan

Plot-twist: Idon is actually from Japan.

 

[Idon]

obviously There is gonna be lag if you are fighting a dude all the way in Japan

Yeah, duh, I know.

I'm asking why Ninendo's pairing me with em.

 

[praline]

Apparently my perfect Smash game has 100 unique characters and like 15 echoes.

Good grief lol

 

[KarneraMythos]

Yeah, duh, I know.

I'm asking why Ninendo's pairing me with em.

Nintendo's trying to tell you that they support "Idon x Japanese Peach Player"

To that I say...THE SHIP HAS SAILED!

Apparently my perfect Smash game has 100 unique characters and like 15 echoes.

Good grief lol

Until every ****poster and fandom is satisfied, the perfect Smash game will never exist.

Except fans who support non-videogame characters. Those are Never-Evers <:v

 

[praline]

Nintendo's trying to tell you that they support "Idon x Japanese Peach Player"

To that I say...THE SHIP HAS SAILED!


Until every ****poster and fandom is satisfied, the perfect Smash game will never exist.

Except fans who support non-videogame characters. Those are Never-Evers <:v

I think mine is fairly close for everyone.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I think mine is fairly close for everyone.

Is Brian in it?

 

[praline]

Is Brian in it?

I’m atleast trying to keep it believable, missy.

 

[KarneraMythos]

Is Brian in it?

>No Spirit of Brian has been reported

Spoiler: He's In.

"PETAHHH! OUR DOG, BRIAN GRIFFIN IS NOT DEAD!"

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Yeah, duh, I know.

I'm asking why Ninendo's pairing me with em.

I guess because you both had open slots, it saw you were waiting and he was waiting too. and since its international, it paired you two up

 

[KingofKoopas]

>No Spirit of Brian has been reported

Spoiler: He's In.

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"PETAHHH! OUR DOG, BRIAN GRIFFIN IS NOT DEAD!"

Not for long