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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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I'm finding it rather difficult to believe that you all had dreams of watching Smash reveals. I think you're just rephrasing your wishlists as dreams. But whatever, it's not like I can prove that.

I had an actual dream once of Smash and it was a stage involving falling down the stairs. It didn't really have anything to do with any game franchise, nor was it a "big reveal", it was just a stage where the characters would perpetually fall down giant stairs.
 
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PsychoJosh PsychoJosh Brought an old computer game back to mind, Stair Dismount. The whole object of the game was to try and maximize the damage dealt to a 3D figure falling down stairs.

Anyway, it's not that big of a surprise that many of us have dreamed about Smash reveals when you consider the fact that stranger things like Game Transfer Phenomena exist.
 

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I had a Smash dream where the only characters were... :4mario::4link::4kirby::4pikachu:.

And the only stage was Battlefield.

I was disappointed.
 

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I'm finding it rather difficult to believe that you all had dreams of watching Smash reveals. I think you're just rephrasing your wishlists as dreams. But whatever, it's not like I can prove that.

I had an actual dream once of Smash and it was a stage involving falling down the stairs. It didn't really have anything to do with any game franchise, nor was it a "big reveal", it was just a stage where the characters would perpetually fall down giant stairs.
I have dreamt that General Pepper and Squidward were revealed for Smash.

I can assure you that those characters aren't on my wishlist.
 
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I'm finding it rather difficult to believe that you all had dreams of watching Smash reveals. I think you're just rephrasing your wishlists as dreams. But whatever, it's not like I can prove that.
I stated earlier that I dreamed that Captain America was in Smash, even though he wouldn't be my first pick among non-video game characters. I don't even recall ever truly wanting him (though I guess he could be kind of cool if he somehow made it in).

Dreams are just weird sometimes.
 

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I'm finding it rather difficult to believe that you all had dreams of watching Smash reveals. I think you're just rephrasing your wishlists as dreams. But whatever, it's not like I can prove that.

I had an actual dream once of Smash and it was a stage involving falling down the stairs. It didn't really have anything to do with any game franchise, nor was it a "big reveal", it was just a stage where the characters would perpetually fall down giant stairs.
m8 i don't like or care about gambit. still had a dream about him in smash bros. dreams are nonsensical like that

anyway what are the chances for smash bros stuff at e3 this year? either port or new game. I personally don't expect a new game until maybe 2019. if there's a port of ssb4 it better be revealed at e3 though. i hunger for smash.
 
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An idea I just had is for them to add character-specific defeat themes in addition to the victory themes.

So defeat themes would only play in multiplayer stock matches, usually whenever someone's last stock is taken from them. Some examples of defeat themes:

Mario & Luigi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wc3kwv0Ddw

Bowser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE4ZdMZqkHQ

Donkey Kong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLblQpxNGSY

Dr. Mario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u6TsEutA4M

You get the picture.

m8 i don't like or care about gambit. still had a dream about him in smash bros. dreams are nonsensical like that

anyway what are the chances for smash bros stuff at e3 this year? either port or new game. I personally don't expect a new game until maybe 2019. if there's a port of ssb4 it better be revealed at e3 though. i hunger for smash.
I'm thinking it'll be "both" a new game and a port of SSB4.

Rather, it'll be an updated port with all the DLC characters but also new characters and modes, and revamped, faster gameplay. Think of it as an update from Street Fighter 4 to Super Street Fighter 4.
 
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An idea I just had is for them to add character-specific defeat themes in addition to the victory themes.

So defeat themes would only play in multiplayer stock matches, usually whenever someone's last stock is taken from them. Some examples of defeat themes:

Mario & Luigi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wc3kwv0Ddw

Bowser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE4ZdMZqkHQ

Donkey Kong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLblQpxNGSY

Dr. Mario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u6TsEutA4M

You get the picture.



I'm thinking it'll be "both" a new game and a port of SSB4.

Rather, it'll be an updated port with all the DLC characters but also new characters and modes, and revamped, faster gameplay. Think of it as an update from Street Fighter 4 to Super Street Fighter 4.
Unique defeat themes is something I would have never thought of but it is a really good idea that I would like to see happen. They can also probably be used in solo modes when you loose too instead of the generic gameover thing we get now.
 

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I'm finding it rather difficult to believe that you all had dreams of watching Smash reveals. I think you're just rephrasing your wishlists as dreams. But whatever, it's not like I can prove that.

I had an actual dream once of Smash and it was a stage involving falling down the stairs. It didn't really have anything to do with any game franchise, nor was it a "big reveal", it was just a stage where the characters would perpetually fall down giant stairs.
Nah dude my dream was vivid as all hell. It was akin to an actual Smash reveal trailer.

In my case it was Andy being revealed. Started out with the whole cutting screen effect that always happens in the reveal trailers. Then it shifted to official artwork of Andy from AW1 and AW2 flashing through the screen only for him to pop out and then it had the splash screen and everything. He was fighting a bunch of characters at once and had his units from AW and all.

I woke up from that dream so pissed off lol.
 

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I had a dream about reading a guide for Super Smash Bros that had a lot of non-Nintendo characters and I was disappointed. I also had another dream that I was still trying to unlock one more character in the Smash roster, (I believe it was a Pokemon.) but it was almost impossible to do it.
 

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I had a dream about a match between Wii Fit Trainer and Shy Guy on Town and City.
The only thing I remember is that Shy Guy had an balloon attack, similar to Villager's but with multicolored balloons.

I also had other dream, Nintendo revealed a Bandana Dee amiibo.
I was extremely happy in the dream, but that's all I can remember.

Is this on topic? XD
 
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One dream I had months back was some sort of Switch reveal. Only three new characters were shown, and one of them wasn't in the trailer but was shown on the website, which got updated. That character was Dante, which doesn't make sense to me since I don't care about Devil May Cry nor do I really want him in Smash. :V (So no, this isn't some "wishlist").

The trailer showcased the Ice Climbers and Greymon as the two big reveals. The Ice Climbers were basically the same and Greymon had this gimmick where he could Digivolve into MetalGreymon after some requirement (don't remember what it was) but would revert back to Greymon when KO'd.
When I woke up, I thought the two shown were kind of a random pairing, but now that I think of it, the "theme" of the trailer seemed to be characters that would have been impossible to include prior to the Switch release because of the 3DS. :laugh:
 
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One dream I had months back was some sort of Switch reveal. Only three new characters were shown, and one of them wasn't in the trailer but was shown on the website, which got updated. That character was Dante, which doesn't make sense to me since I don't care about Devil May Cry nor do I really want him in Smash. :V (So no, this isn't some "wishlist").
Super Smash Bros. for Switch, featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series! & Knuckles

And on the subject of Atlus box art memes, what do you all think the odds of an Atlus character are?
 
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Dante would be a damn sight cooler than any of the other sword characters in the game right now.
 
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Super Smash Bros. for Switch, featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series! & Knuckles

And on the subject of Atlus box art memes, what do you all think the odds of an Atlus character are?
Is one a very high request or is a series' creator planning on trying to get one in?

If the answer to both is "no", then very unlikely. If one of those is a "yes", then it's plausible.
 

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I think the only Smash-related dream that I had was that Monkey D. Luffy from One Piece, of all characters, was revealed. He was heavily inspired by Jump Ultimate Stars, from what I recall.
 

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I had a Smash dream after Smash 3DS's release about Snake actually being a secret character in Smash and I had just unlocked him. This was a couple days after Smash 3DS was out and I had it already and already got every character unlocked. It's safe to say that when I opened my eyes and realized it was a dream I was ****ing depressed. Like really ****ing depressed.
Super Smash Bros. for Switch, featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series! & Knuckles

And on the subject of Atlus box art memes, what do you all think the odds of an Atlus character are?
Who are you thinking? I can't really see any of the protagonists of the SMT games, definitely not Persona, getting in so, like, who? Jack Frost? That's the closest thing they have to a mascot. Although Etrian Odyssey is an Atlus property right? I suppose a character class from those games could make it.
Dante would be a damn sight cooler than any of the other sword characters in the game right now.
Smash speculation hasn't even started and I'm already sick of hearing the term 'Sword Characters/Sword Fighters'. No offense to you, of course, It's just I hear it SO ****ING MUCH!
 
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>Mention Dante being a side thing in the dream
Everyone comments on it
>Mention Greymon/MetalGreymon being a bigger part in the dream
Everyone ignores it

A little disappointing, honestly. :p
 

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>Mention Dante being a side thing in the dream
Everyone comments on it
>Mention Greymon/MetalGreymon being a bigger part in the dream
Everyone ignores it

A little disappointing, honestly. :p
Honest, didn't even know who Greymon was. Then you said 'Digimon' and I was like 'Oh that's why'. Was never into Digimon so I have no real opinion on anyone in it. I don't really see them getting into Smash now or in the future either way but y'know, that goes for a lot of characters.
 

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Once I had a dream the DOJO updated about four years after Brawl came out. They had forgotten to announce a character. I forget which one. xD
 
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Once I had a dream the DOJO updated about four years after Brawl came out. They had forgotten to announce a character. I forget which one. xD
Slowpoke? :p

Like Slowpoke being added to Brawl after Smash 4 is revealed?
 
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>Mention Dante being a side thing in the dream
Everyone comments on it
>Mention Greymon/MetalGreymon being a bigger part in the dream
Everyone ignores it

A little disappointing, honestly. :p
Everybody just wants Nintendo vs. Capcom man.
 

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Who are you thinking? I can't really see any of the protagonists of the SMT games, definitely not Persona, getting in so, like, who? Jack Frost? That's the closest thing they have to a mascot. Although Etrian Odyssey is an Atlus property right? I suppose a character class from those games could make it.
I doubt we'd see any characters or even assists from Etrian Odyssey, but can we get some music in here? Because come on.

Smash speculation hasn't even started and I'm already sick of hearing the term 'Sword Characters/Sword Fighters'. No offense to you, of course, It's just I hear it SO ****ING MUCH!
I don't blame you at all. Especially since it's usually used in shallow judgment to discredit a character and deem them unworthy without ever looking beyond the surface.
 
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I don't know why, but I've had a rather uneasy dream that Deadpool somehow got into the Smash fray. He breaks the fourth wall a lot, and even goes as far as to insult you whenever he's losing.

Fortunately, Deadpool, being a comic book character, has no chance of making the cut.
 

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Who are you thinking? I can't really see any of the protagonists of the SMT games, definitely not Persona, getting in so, like, who? Jack Frost? That's the closest thing they have to a mascot. Although Etrian Odyssey is an Atlus property right? I suppose a character class from those games could make it.
If not an SMT or Persona character then I highly doubt we'd get anyone. I didn't really have anyone in particular in mind really, just thought a character from them would be interesting. And why not Persona might I add? Given how popular it is I actually think someone like Yu could fare well now that we have someone like Cloud. He did appear in the 3DS game Persona Q, so he has some ties to Nintendo even if it's not much.

Granted I don't think an Atus character is likely, but Yu seems like the standout in the same way Cloud is for FF. I could be way off though as my only SMT/Persona experience are P4 Arena, Persona 2: EP, 3 and 4 (all of which I've yet to finish.) That's just my assumption since Persona 4 has remained pretty relevant over the years with the original, Golden, Arena, Ultimax, Q, Dancing All Night, and the two anime adaptations.

If not Yu then I'd say Jack Frost (he's not close to being the mascot, he is the company mascot btw), though that'd feel odd to me to be honest. He's not really more important than any other demons when it comes to the games themselves, with the exception being that one Jack Bros. game on Virtual Boy, which doesn't really help much. But then again he's still fairly iconic and being the company mascot might give him an edge despite his role not being too prominent.

And if not those two then I honestly don't know enough about SMT to know who'd be a good pick. Given the series legacy I think picking someone from the classic games over Persona would be nice, but I thought that would the case for Final Fantasy as well and yet here we are with Cloud. (Not that I'm complaining btw he was a wonderful surprise.)

As for Etrian Odyssey, I know next to nothing about that series, but I don't think they'd skip over SMT/Persona since that's their biggest franchise. Overall, as I said earlier, I don't it's very likely we'll see an Atlus character as of this point, and trying to predict who they'd even go with is fairly difficult as well.
>Mention Dante being a side thing in the dream
Everyone comments on it
>Mention Greymon/MetalGreymon being a bigger part in the dream
Everyone ignores it

A little disappointing, honestly. :p
Like with NonSpecificGuy I just don't know anything about Digimon outside of Agumon, and a few others I've happened to stumble across. I do know that the original Digimon was a Tamagotchi style digital pet, toy thing. I'm not sure if Sakurai would count that as a video game though. We do have ROB, but that's first party, so I don't know if he'd do the same for third parties.
Everybody just wants Nintendo vs. Capcom man.
This. If there's a game I like speculating about as much as Smash it's this non-existent, fan dream. Hopefully they'll allow it to happen someday.
I doubt we'd see any characters or even assists from Etrian Odyssey, but can we get some music in here? Because come on.

I don't blame you at all. Especially since it's usually used in shallow judgment to discredit a character and deem them unworthy without ever looking beyond the surface.
The music alone makes we want to try Etrian Odyssey now. And I agree on the sword argument. The weapon they use doesn't matter, it's how they use it. The only reason I can find as to why it may feel to many that the sword characters play similarly is because we have 3 clone/semi-clones with:4tlink::4feroy::4lucina:, but that still leaves 8 unique play styles among the sword wielders. (9 if you want to count the Mii.) :4link::4marth::4metaknight::4myfriends::4robinf::4shulk::4cloud::4corrinf::4miisword:
 
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Like with Swampasaur I just don't know anything about Digimon outside of Agumon, and a few others I've happened to stumble across. I do know that the original Digimon was a Tamagotchi style digital pet, toy thing. I'm not sure if Sakurai would count that as a video game though. We do have ROB, but that's first party, so I don't know if he'd do the same for third parties.
You mean NonSpecificGuy, not swumpy. :p

There should be no issue, considering the problem lies with characters that are from other forms of media such as anime or movies, where the rights to the characters are much more difficult to obtain.
Digimon started as a virtual pet and had a console release of the original line before the Toei anime put the franchise on the map. Not only that, but Bandai Namco owns the IP, meaning it should be relatively easy to get the rights.
 

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Why do people still say we have too many sword fighters in Smash? We have 58 characters in SSB4 and only 12 characters are sword fighters. That's like about 20% of the whole roster.
 
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Why do people still say we have too many sword fighters in Smash? We have 58 characters in SSB4 and only 12 characters are sword fighters. That's like about 20% of the whole roster.
Those same people should instead complain to the developers of the games these characters come from on why they don't give to the main characters anything but a sword as their main weapon. :V
 

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I'd say that we need more guns in Smash. They so cool, yet so underrated in the roster so far.

Guntz from Klonoa for Smash

Leon from Resident Evil for Smash.

Sheriff for Smash.

Pudding for Smash. :troll:
 

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Pudding as in Space Channel 5? Only character I can think of with that name.
Spoiler alert.

She means Big Mom's closest daughter in One Piece

Though Space Chanenl 5 Pudding would be fun (she has an electric guitar, but hey).
 
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This talk of Space Channel 5 makes me think about how Ulala would be a pretty great character, she's even got a gun. I should make a support thread for her.

Space Channel 5 for Switch when????
 

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If only the game wasn't from Sega or Japan-only, Pole from Pole's Big Adventure would be the ***s.

I'm still made that game was never localized.
 

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Those same people should instead complain to the developers of the games these characters come from on why they don't give to the main characters anything but a sword as their main weapon. :V
I suspected that to be the case... whenever I see people complaining about "too many sword fighters", I suspected they were actually complaining about "too many Fire Emblem characters".
 
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