Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Capybara Gaming]

Hey, that's the same song everyone used during the Grinch leak and every single one of Vergeben's """"""""""lucky guesses''''''''''''''

And yet when I called several times over that Shadow was still an assist trophy I was ridiculed because he was "such an obvious lock."

And gee willikers look how that turned out

 

[Blargg888]

Is this a Fire Emblem Heroes reference?

Nope, this is an older one:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...Alfunzo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140519235609
Back from the good ol' Miiverse PotD days.


Edit: Image link included

 

[Kuon]

Mario teh Plumber...
He's a jerk who got famous for hoarding a bunch of Rosalina Amiibo, just so her fans could get them...

He bought a bunch of Rosalina Amiibo just so others couldn't buy them? That's pretty selfish.

 

[GoeGoe]

SO.. summing everything up, the 5 DLCs are..
1. Geno
2. S.. ss.. ughh.. sttt.. steve
3. Katalina
4. Goemon
5. Chorus Men

 

[Kuon]

Hey, that's the same song everyone used during the Grinch leak and every single one of Vergeben's """"""""""lucky guesses''''''''''''''

I know Vergeben has been kind of a jerk with some of his responses, but I don't think he's been getting lucky guesses... unless you're being sarcastic about the lucky guesses, which I think you are

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

He bought a bunch of Rosalina Amiibo just so others couldn't buy them? That's pretty selfish.

Let's just say some people really hate Rosalina... Mario teh Plumber included

 

[Deleted member]

You know what's gonna be insane? If the rumors are true, Kingdom Hearts is gonna have 7 songs, while Final Fantasy has 2 still, since it's confirmed on Nintendo's website that all DLC fighters will have 7 songs.

Though, with that being said, which songs do you guys think are getting in?

 

[Pakky]

Hey, that's the same song everyone used during the Grinch leak and every single one of Vergeben's """"""""""lucky guesses''''''''''''''

When I think of Steve

Jill from MvC2 keeps coming to mind.

Spawning in enemies as attacks

 

[KingofKoopas]

Mario teh Plumber...
He's a jerk who got famous for hoarding a bunch of Rosalina Amiibo, just so her fans couldn't get them...

That is some Chrischan levels of **** right there, do you know if he pepper sprayed anyone?

 

[Kuon]

SO.. summing everything together, the 5 DLCs are..
1. Geno
2. S.. ss.. ughh.. sttt.. steve
3. Katalina
4. Goemon
5. Chorus Men

I don't think Geno is happening.
Steve is probably DLC
Katalina might be DLC
Goemon probably won't be in
and the Chorus Men probably won't be in, otherwise they would've been in the base game

 

[WolfCypher]

Let's just say some people really hate Rosalina... Mario teh Plumber included

I wonder if Rosalina haters also like Waluigi. It really speaks volume on tastes.

 

[Nekoo]

You know what's gonna be insane? If the rumors are true, Kingdom Hearts is gonna have 7 songs, while Final Fantasy has 2 still, since it's confirmed on Nintendo's website that all DLC fighters will have 7 songs.

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Though, with that being said, which songs do you guys think are getting in?

No 13th struggle and I riot.

 

[Untouch]

You know what's gonna be insane? If the rumors are true, Kingdom Hearts is gonna have 7 songs, while Final Fantasy has 2 still, since it's confirmed on Nintendo's website that all DLC fighters will have 7 songs.

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Though, with that being said, which songs do you guys think are getting in?

Alright if the 7 song thing is true DQ has nearly no possible chance of making it in unless some miracle happens.
Maybe next game.

 

[Kuon]

Let's just say some people really hate Rosalina... Mario teh Plumber included

Everyone has a character they hate, but that doesn't mean people should ruin the fun for others just because they don't like said character

 

[Pakky]

Rayman is probably in.

 

[JCDied4U]

SO.. summing everything together, the 5 DLCs are..
1. Geno
2. S.. ss.. ughh.. sttt.. steve
3. Katalina
4. Goemon
5. Chorus Men

Or maybe
Monster Hunter
Banjo Kazooie
Elma
Paper Mario
Heihachi
Dixie Kong
There's actually a lot of potential characters

 

[BluePikmin11]

Honestly the pace of speculation discussion here is going way too fast for my liking.

Maybe I should make my own speculation Discord, or make a thread in General Discussion to share my speculation newcomer predictions.

Maybe I should do both or maybe I should just hang out in the quieter Newcomer Speculation Discussion thread.

IDK if you guys are that interested in having a speculation discussion in my personal hut tho. lol

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Verge and Spawnwave directly counter each other do they not?

Verge himself said that he hasn't heard who the Square rep is because they're playing it close and safe right?

Spawn legit seems to know ''IT'S SORA."

One has to be wrong. They can't be in unison.

 

[osby]

Rayman is probably in.

Just like Smash For, eh?


No, really, nothing personal but it feels weird making character predictions after PP.

 

[Kuon]

Alright if the 7 song thing is true DQ has nearly no possible chance of making it in unless some miracle happens.
Maybe next game.

That is a fair point. DQ doesn't really have very notable music (to my knowledge). DQ11 reuses basically the same five songs throughout the entire game, and it gets pretty repetitive. lol. With all of this said, I agree with you and think Sora might have a better chance than DQ

 

[Untouch]

Verge and Spawnwave directly counter each other do they not?

Verge himself said that he hasn't heard who the Square rep is because they're playing it close and safe right?

Spawn legit seems to know ''IT'S SORA."

One has to be wrong. They can't be in unison.

Spawn wave hasn't straight up ever said it was Sora, he's kind of hinting at it but it hasn't straight up said.

 

[The DanMan051]

Verge and Spawnwave directly counter each other do they not?

Verge himself said that he hasn't heard who the Square rep is because they're playing it close and safe right?

Spawn legit seems to know ''IT'S SORA."

One has to be wrong. They can't be in unison.

That's not how it works at all. Different people with different sources are a thing.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, I'm back here. It's kinda weird to co tinue speculating like this after we know the full roster tbh, but I guess it's this feeling that we do know the entire game by now, but yet, there's plenty of evidence that we haven't seen the full thing yet. And I mean in the Stadium Modes, what WoL entails and character changes we haven't seen yet.

I'll just say I'm really disappointed Chrom is still in Robin's Final Smash :/
Makes you wonder what was the point of keeping it hidden until now.

 

[Deleted member]

So if there's a second DLC wave that presumably wouldn't have been decided in 2015, what character's would be likely?

Personally I feel like Rex will be a straight up lock if there's a second wave that's not preplanned, and I don't throw around the word "lock" very often. You could tell Sakurai seemed kinda upset that he couldn't add Rex in, considering Xenoblade 2 was like his game of the decade or w/e

 

[Kuon]

Verge and Spawnwave directly counter each other do they not?

Verge himself said that he hasn't heard who the Square rep is because they're playing it close and safe right?

Spawn legit seems to know ''IT'S SORA."

One has to be wrong. They can't be in unison.

If I recall, Vergeben said he's heard who the SE character is but doesn't want to say it because the SE ninjas will find the leakers and destroy them. So in order to keep his leaker safe, he refuses to say who the character is. But I think he knows who it is

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Apparently Robin still calls in Chrom for his Final Smash.

I don't know how to feel about this.

Have people seen Robin's final smash yet? I thought we were still missing a bunch

 

[Nekoo]

Verge and Spawnwave directly counter each other do they not?

Verge himself said that he hasn't heard who the Square rep is because they're playing it close and safe right?

Spawn legit seems to know ''IT'S SORA."

One has to be wrong. They can't be in unison.

One can know the identity the other maybe not.
There no contradiction here?

 

[osby]

Hey, I'm back here. It's kinda weird to co tinue speculating like this after we know the full roster tbh, but I guess it's this feeling that we do know the entire game by now, but yet, there's plenty of evidence that we haven't seen the full thing yet. And I mean in the Stadium Modes, what WoL entails and character changes we haven't seen yet.

I'll just say I'm really disappointed Chrom is still in Robin's Final Smash :/
Makes you wonder what was the point of keeping it hidden until now.

...they didn't kept it hidden. Some characters simply didn't have FSs in their blog trailers.

 

[Dyamanttine]

Our boy Sora is finally going to unlock the door <3

 

[The DanMan051]

Have people seen Robin's final smash yet? I thought we were still missing a bunch

https://youtu.be/un44CDKDqIY
1:58

 

[GoeGoe]

I don't think Geno is happening.
Steve is probably DLC
Katalina might be DLC
Goemon probably won't be in
and the Chorus Men probably won't be in, otherwise they would've been in the base game

Ouch. Where do you get your info? Goemon's not in? That's absurd.. have some faith in the elusive theif.. err, ahm, ninja.
Seriously though and just clearing, I only care about Goemon.. so here we go..
Why Geno isn't happening? Nothing to gain from Sora, and if any Rectangle rep should be in it's Geno (boy I'm so sick of repeating that name). Wasn't it a Sakurai wish? Chorus Men also were a Saki desire. Probaly they weren't important enough to include in the base roster, that's why.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I got a response from Vergeben.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77160319/911668687

 

[Untouch]

I can't find anywhere where it says there has to be 7 songs, just "multiple".

 

[Deleted member]

For those who are wondering, yes, it's confirmed on the site that every DLC fighter with their stage will get seven new music tracks. Keep in mind, they never said old songs, it's ALL NEW.

 

[ThatOneAnon]

Hey, I'm back here. It's kinda weird to co tinue speculating like this after we know the full roster tbh, but I guess it's this feeling that we do know the entire game by now, but yet, there's plenty of evidence that we haven't seen the full thing yet. And I mean in the Stadium Modes, what WoL entails and character changes we haven't seen yet.

I'll just say I'm really disappointed Chrom is still in Robin's Final Smash :/
Makes you wonder what was the point of keeping it hidden until now.

PROTO MAN FOR DLC BAYBEEEE

 

[FreeFox]

Which first party characters do you guys think are more likely for our first DLC pack? I can only think of a few if consider all assist trophies to be out. Bandanna Waddle Dee is still a popular character that is currently MIA. Paper Mario could finally get his chance. Maybe, we could get a Rhythm Heaven character since the franchise didnt receive anything so far this smash. The Legend of Zelda could use a new character. Unless Spirits are out, Dixie Kong could join in as a semiclone like Isabelle. Since Piranha Plant is already a thing, maybe Yoshi could get an unorthodox characcter in Poochy?

Do you think we might get just third parties? If the rumors from the two leakers are true, it could also be posible that all characters could be third party DLC. If that is the case, maybe Bethesda could get a character. Another platform vet like Crash Bandicoot or Banjo Kazooie would be nice too.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Is PapaGenos still sure? I thought he also firmly believed the leak. Or did he only beleive because he was sure of Banjo? At this point I think it's more likely his source was mistaken.

Yeahh, I don't know. I'm guessing he'll make a video explaining some things. In his reaction to the Direct though, he did say that he was gonna talk to his source about this whole situation.

 

[The DanMan051]

For those who are wondering, yes, it's confirmed on the site that every DLC fighter with their stage will get seven new music tracks. Keep in mind, they never said old songs, it's ALL NEW.

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...That says "Several". Several. Not seven.

 

[Kuon]

Ouch. Where do you get your info? Goemon's not in? That's absurd.. have some faith in the elusive theif.. err, ahm, ninja.
Seriously though and just clearing, I only care about Goemon.. so here we go..
Why Geno isn't happening? Nothing to gain from Sora, and if any Rectangle rep should be in it's Geno (boy I'm so sick of repeating that name). Wasn't it a Sakurai wish? Chorus Men also were a Saki desire. Probaly they weren't important enough to include in the base roster, that's why.

I'm getting this info from my head, which is why I said 'probably'. I'm just going off of what I think and feel is likely

 

[GoeGoe]

Or maybe
Monster Hunter
Banjo Kazooie
Elma
Paper Mario
Heihachi
Dixie Kong
There's actually a lot of potential characters

No man, come on, those aren't real potentials.

I'm getting this info from my head, which is why I said 'probably'. I'm just going off of what I think and feel is likely

Oh! am fine with that. Means Goemon still in