Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[xXShadeXx]

Yall are pushing it. 8 pages left and 6 hours remain

Sorry, we have people to avenge and people to ****post for.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

I honestly think Nintendo really nailed how to handle leaks this time. EVERYONE IS CONFUSED.

 

[Shroob]

Like:


Vergeben is wrong
Grinch leak ends up being wrong


HOW BAMBOOZLED DO WE GET?!

 

[Naiko3232]

according to them those characters are not coming in release, if the N64 announcements really happens tomorrow, this means 2 things, Banjo is DLC, or the N64 mini release is not happening tomorrow.

I refuse to believe they're showing an N64 and not a newcomer from that console, is just nonsensical.

according to Gamexplain Banjo would "make sense" as DLC, so there's that.

Now, if this is true, Incineroar...what the heck.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Grinch leak being fake but no Incineroar anyways would be one of the biggest doozies in Smash speculation history.

 

[ChronoKatie]

All the steps are irrelevant besides making the smash mural itself, which is an amateur undertaking to begin with. It makes no difference if hes actually working at a print shop or actually has access to Grinch assets (All old btw).

The only step this person had to do to go out of his way was edit the mural.

In a way, that's really exciting because it means no one really knows what's going to happen.

TOTALLY this. I love the fact that so many insiders have conflicted because it means I genuinely have no idea what we are getting tomorrow, but I have a firm belief in Ken, Incineroar and Dante. At least Ken and Dante now.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

if they are disagreeing with Verg, that can only mean good things.

Wait why? Dislike Incineroar and Ken?

 

[Starbound]

Also I'm actually really glad they weren't like "and here are all the characters you'll see later".

Because now I don't feel like I got that spoiled.

Just confused.

 

[Shroob]

according to them those characters are not coming in release, if the N64 announcements really happens tomorrow, this means 2 things, Banjo is DLC, or the N64 mini release is not happening tomorrow.

I refuse to believe they're showing an N64 and not a newcomer from that console, is just nonsensical.

But Banjo being DLC probably also kills the Grinch leak.

 

[Aerospherology]

Good night guys. See what happens tomorrow.

Before I leave though...

Come on Banjo-Kazooie! Come on Black Shadow! Come on Elma! Come on Leon Powalski! Come on Medusa! Come on Nightmare (Soulcalibur)!

Please all come true!!!!

Come On Chase McCain!

 

[Bladeviper]

if they are right, then that just means what a lot of us were speculating and that incieroar was just leak bait

 

[ChronoKatie]

Alright, everyone! I am getting 5 hours of sleep now as it is, so I just want to say that this has been a blast and super fascinating. ^_^ See you all after the direct! Good luck to everyone hoping to get their character. I will forever dream of Geno no matter what. <3

My final prediction is still Ken, Incineroar and Dante. Hope I get more than that. ^_^ Bye <3

 

[Shroob]

if they are right, then that just means what a lot of us were speculating and that incieroar was just leak bait

But it also means no Banjo, thus Grinch Leak is also wrong.

 

[Naiko3232]

But Banjo being DLC probably also kills the Grinch leak.

oh you're right...
Well that might put Incineroar back in...but not as DLC?
But that contradicts the Gameintel leak itself.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

But Banjo being DLC probably also kills the Grinch leak.

I could see a scenario where he's announced as the first DLC, but still added to the mural. I wouldn't say it's likely, but it's a possibility.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Even more Bamboozle, Ken is an AT

 

[Starbound]

But Banjo being DLC probably also kills the Grinch leak.

At the same time though, it kills basically every other leak because they all said Incineroar.

So like this is literally a reset button 6 hours before the direct.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

That’s terrible. Lol. It can only go a couple of ways anyway. It is debunked, it isn’t debunked or it’s all but confirmed.

I hope it’s real, but based on what I have seen and heard, I’m Team Maybe. I guess since I haven’t been here, I’m just not invested in the speculation. I keep it in mind, but it hardly affects my expectations.

I’ve been keeping occupied playing Final Fantasy Tactics, XCom 2, Final Fantasy 9 and making my own tabletop game that is like a mix of Tactics, XCom, Starcraft and Dungeons and Dragons.

That said, I have put all that on hold because my hype is affecting my work ethic. Lol

I hope it's real too, for my Geno and for your Banjo (and all the others). I'm team maybe too but leaning toward fake. We'll know for sure in a few hours anyway

Also that's a nice selection of games to keep you occupied! (are you playing the old Starcraft: Broodwar or SCII?)

 

[Aaron1997]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...ad-about-nothing.77842/page-192#post-14455414


Emily and Imran thinks its fake. My god.....

 

[Shroob]

Insiders are confused
"Leaks" are confused
We're confused


EVERYONE.IS.CONFUSED!

 

[Jeck]

Oh look a small pile of bull****. This doesn't help me enjoy my 7:00 AM PST.

 

[Radical Bones]

And we move one page closer.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

WELCOME TO WHOSE LEAK IS IT ANYWAYS?

WHERE THE INFO IS MADE UP AND THE SOURCES DON'T MATTER

 

[Starbound]

Even more Bamboozle, Ken is an AT

WAIT WHAT???

I don't see that on their site. Do you have a source?

 

[Naiko3232]

Wait now Emily says their sources are wrong, so no N64 then? this guys ****ed up at the last day or Emily has wrong info

 

[Nethermoosen]

I hope it's real too, for my Geno and for your Banjo (and all the others). I'm team maybe too but leaning toward fake. We'll know for sure in a few hours anyway

Also that's a nice selection of games to keep you occupied! (are you playing the old Starcraft: Broodwar or SCII?)

I’m not playing them. It’s just part of the inspiration inherent to the game I am designing. It’s only similar in that structures and economy will be important for progress.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

WAIT WHAT???

I don't see that on their site. Do you have a source?

You just got Bamboozled.
Sorry, source is MEme

 

[TheBlue10]

So their thing is:

"Grinch leak IS fake....... but so is Incineroar?"



Sorry, but... I find this hard to believe, and I'm not even on TeamReal or TeamVergeben. This really sounds like an unsourced claim.

At this point it's hard to believe anybody. Plus there's only 6 hours until the direct, all will be revealed then.

 

[Svenjamin Olafsvartal]

It would appear that Nintendo has developed a mastery of the art of the confusing of peoples' faces! Nothing these leakers say makes sense, and they all contradict each other in more ways than one. Mr. Veggiebond is no longer to be trusted either. Final prediction: the GRINCH leak shall be the correct one! Smell you all SOON, and avoid all fire safety hazards whilst doing so.

 

[staindgrey]

Wait, is there a legit leak?

Does it matter? The direct's in six hours.

 

[Starbound]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...ad-about-nothing.77842/page-192#post-14455414


Emily and Imran thinks its fake. My god.....

I feel like I'm being pulled in every damn direction now

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, I want y'all to take a VERY good look at this part of the Grinch Leak.

This is clearly not from Smashified's render, for starters. So, in the history of all of the Smash leaks and just leaks in general, I don't think a fake leaker has gone THIS far with this amount of effort that they'd know where to move VERY SPECIFIC characters and references. As such, with here.

This is like the Ken Leak, the more you try and critique it, the more it becomes stronger and real. When has someone ever went to the extreme lengths of pulling off a fake leak like this? And once again, the reference to Metal Gear Solid V's Bear Hunting mission, how would one have THAT much knowledge going into this? Not to **** on Omni, but this leak has way more going for it than some video of a simple CSS that people who know graphic design and can do video editing can do very well.

I'm trying my best to be as subjective as I can with the Grinch Leak, but I've just come to accepting that this is another Ken Leak situation, where it's just too good to be fake. The more you try and critique it and say it's fake, the stronger it becomes.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...ad-about-nothing.77842/page-192#post-14455414


Emily and Imran thinks its fake. My god.....

No surprise really, insiders will be sticking by their sources to the end at this point. Really interesting to see two so credible sources clashing though.

 

[Freaky Mutant Man]

If GamingINTEL is right, note that they said "wouldn't be in on release," which maaaaybe indicates they could be DLC? That's a big fat maybe, though, and is based on their info being correct, which...

I mean, we'll know in 7 hours. I should really just get some sleep.

 

[Jeck]

Wait, is there a legit leak?

Short answer, no. There's really not.

 

[Shroob]

So now the N64 classic may not even be real.


Well, this is just


My head hurts.

 

[Bladeviper]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...ad-about-nothing.77842/page-192#post-14455414


Emily and Imran thinks its fake. My god.....

id really stop taking them as gospel. especially emily, she has been so wrong about nintendo stuff over the past year its insane, or need i remind people she said smash ult was a port of 4, or that mother 3 was coming to the west.

 

[CosmicQuark]

Insiders are confused
"Leaks" are confused
We're confused


EVERYONE.IS.CONFUSED!

I woke up only to get immensely hyped, followed by immediately getting bamboozled.

The only person that gets to confirm is Sakurai, though. We'll know in 6 hours.

 

[Shroob]

id really stop taking them as gospel. especially emily, she has been so wrong about nintendo stuff over the past year its insane, or need i remind people she said smash ult was a port of 4, or that mother 3 was coming to the west.

I mean, if they're wrong, and this is right, then Grinch Leak is also wrong so...

 

[RouffWestie]

So manny insiders convenintly just now coming out of the woodworks with full knowledge of the roster only after the Gronch leak happened. Hmmmm...