Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Zinith]

While doing my research to disprove the Greninja tongue theory (I did, see my previous post) I found some inetresting pictures of Greninja and his tongue:
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*First image*

Bad touch bad touch!!!

 

[amazonevan19]

I was thinking about it today and there's only one thing I can really find wrong with this leak: it feels scripted.

I firmly believe that the actual images are almost entirely red herrings, and that the details of the remainder of the leak are what matter, and those are where the whole thing feels the most "scripted" to me.

As I mentioned in the previous thread, Marina and ACP are both real companies, and you can tell from their registrar info that they've been around for a WHILE: Marina's was registered 9/03/2004 and ACP was 3/02/2005 (all of which is publicly available information, btw).

And yet it's the involvement of not one but TWO paper product advertising companies that so perfectly allows the narrative to write itself. We've seen Bricard's former employer (Marina) tell everyone to step the **** off lest they loose the hordes of angry winged lawyers on them for bringing this negative attention to their firm. This is an entirely hollow threat (they can't sue a fake leaker because people got the wrong idea about where a former employee works), but it's the CORRECT reaction that a PLV firm should have to their reputation being compromised.

...Which is what make's ACP's silence THAT much more conspicuous. If Bricard doesn't actually work there and/or they don't work with Nintendo/Bamco, then they should've absolutely published a statement saying so, and we KNOW that this is what they should've done because, what luck! We just so happen to have a second PLV firm present to show us exactly how an innocent PLV firm would react to this kind of speculation.

When potential new clients go to search for info on ACP, they're going to read an AWFUL lot about an employee of ACP allegedly leaking confidential client info, but they're not going to find any sort of official statement rebuking these claims, and that will literally KILL their business in due time.

This, plus the fact that Bricard conveniently had two LinkedIn profiles, including an older one that listed Marina as his employer, is what makes the whole thing feel "scripted", like we were meant to find this info and Marina was intended to show us how a PLV company SHOULD be reacting to this sort of thing.

I feel crazy for even saying this, but at the back of my mind, I wonder if the person behind all of this is none other than Sakurai himself.

I know that's bonkers to even suggest, but what if this whole thing is a carefully orchestrated ruse that he put into place because, given that this is his last SSB game, he wanted to go out like a legend.

There's so much going on here that makes it appear that everything is in chaos, but in a way, doesn't THAT feel kind of scripted as well? All of the insiders and gaming news outlets that seem to not want to discuss THIS particular leak when they've been happy to discuss so many others... Wouldn't Nintendo have told them to "just act casual" if they really wanted the leak downplayed? Their actions just make it that much more suspicious, giving it even more credence.

It wouldn't be the first time a game developer has run an ARG for their fans to unravel, and Sakurai knows just how much the SSB fanbase goes insane over leaks.

Imagine, at the end of all of this, in the final direct, Sakurai reveals that Marina and ACP were in it all along, and then drops the Grinch on us, a character we'd never peg as playable in a thousand years, says, "That's right. It was me all along. Do I know my fans, or what?" and goes down in history as an absolute LEGEND of trickery and misdirection.

It's completely unrealistic, but man, would that be the perfect end to the most insane prerelease hype cycle a game has ever seen or what?

This would truly be the best timeline.

If Sakurai masterminded all of this...he deserves the GDP of China's worth in Smash sales.

 

[ReeseBalaski]

This thread is giving me high blood pressure, I need a hecking drink. Lol.

 

[Will]

its all good i didnt take offense or anything

i just felt i should point out that yes im hypocritically pointing out both:

why inconsistencies on a printed shrunk image dont make it fake.
and also that omnis flawless rayman doesnt mean its real.

the hypocrisy is the point im making the image isnt the answer here, its addressing the surrounding evidence, the full picture of this leak is why its so darn credible.

Okay yeah that's cool but do they not have like, an e-mail or something?

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Just want to make it clear to Waluigi fans that if I could change my name I would.

Unless I'm an idiot and missed the option somewhere.

 

[BrytonJ]

Ok, here’s a non-leak discussion topic:

Is there a character that you wanted previously and probably had a shot in appearing but due to reasons, it never happened for one reason or another?

For me, anime Meowth would had been a better Pokemon rep thank Jigglypuff. It would of been awesome to had him in 64.

Chibi-Robo probably would've had a great chance at being in Ultimate... if only they'd made a good game that sold well instead of making Zip-lash! It's all very sad

 

[EndlessPillows]

Ok, here’s a non-leak discussion topic:

Is there a character that you wanted previously and probably had a shot in appearing but due to reasons, it never happened for one reason or another?

For me, anime Meowth would had been a better Pokemon rep thank Jigglypuff. It would of been awesome to had him in 64.

Ok probably not a GOOD shot, but they're a fighting type at least >.>

 

[doomedtacox]

B-B-But Waluigi is a symbol of hate and all of his fans are mean people to Sakurai!!! >:^(

I will never forget him. My dream is still that he gets upgraded to playable and his reveal line is just "WAHHHHHHHHH".

 

[CannonStreak]

I'm talking about this.

Maybe you just can't see it for some reason. It is faint, but it is there. I can see it.

 

[andres22]

It's literally what I said from the beginning, most of those who have harassed the insiders are from / v /

 

[SuperSceptile15]

I honestly feel terrible for Mystic. He didn’t have to tell us ****, but he did and he payed the price :/

He should have been more careful then.

 

[HesIn]

Here's a topic I haven't seen yet: How is the Japanese fanbase reacting to this? Are they aware of it? Can any bilingual user enlighten us?

From what I've seen they really only want Kirby characters and are wondering where Bandana Dee and Magolor are.

 

[Zinith]

Just want to make it clear to Waluigi fans that if I could change my name I would.

Unless I'm an idiot and missed the option somewhere.

You can change it if you get premium

 

[Sigran101]

Before I go, I just wanted to say, take a second to consider how you'll feel if it turns out MarioTehPlumber really was the leaker. Forget for a second whether you think the leak is real or not and realize that he is the leaker, this toxicity is him winning. If he is the leaker, he did it to get us to **** on each other. Imagine him gloating about his victory over the whole fanbase and reconsider how you're all acting.

 

[cothero]

*Watches smashboards turns into saltboards*

Nope. Back to sleep.

 

[Starbound]

WAIT WHAT

god damn and here I thought the grinch was really dead...phew

It is dead though.

The cropped tongue wrecks the professional quality of the render because it alters the character beyond just moving it.

 

[RC-3197]

I'm talking about this.

Honestly there's no way to tell, it's so blurry.
This is as big as I can get it:

 

[amazonevan19]

Emailing a company that's probably under ND ****ing A won't get you anywhere. Even if they weren't, do you really think they'll answer some random ass person from Smashboards rather than issuing their own statement denying involvement??

Seriously guys, there's stupid and then there's advanced stupid.

 

[Taco Cruise]

Ok, here’s a non-leak discussion topic:

Is there a character that you wanted previously and probably had a shot in appearing but due to reasons, it never happened for one reason or another?

For me, anime Meowth would had been a better Pokemon rep thank Jigglypuff. It would of been awesome to had him in 64.

Banjo in Melee, Rare being sold killed the chance (unless Grinch is real).

 

[PassePopinjay]

oh my god

Spoiler

 

[Fortnite4Smash]

THIS IS THE BEST THING TO COME OUT OF THIS WHOLE LEAK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNh7rom0GLs

 

[StormC]

It's so close, I can taaaaaste it.

This is the taste of a liar!

 

[ExitWound]

Before I go, I just wanted to say, take a second to consider how you'll feel if it turns out MarioTehPlumber really was the leaker. Forget for a second whether you think the leak is real or not and realize that he is the leaker, this toxicity is him winning. If he is the leaker, he did it to get us to **** on each other. Imagine him gloating about his victory over the whole fanbase and reconsider how you're all acting.

Doesn't matter. I get to main banjo :D

 

[T3Z3R1]

While doing my research to disprove the Greninja tongue theory (I did, see my previous post) I found some inetresting pictures of Greninja and his tongue:
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Oh god, now I am reminded of that comic where shiny greninja implied about "special benefit" to some kid pokemon.

 

[Ignoritus]

This, plus the fact that Bricard conveniently had two LinkedIn profiles, including an older one that listed Marina as his employer, is what makes the whole thing feel "scripted", like we were meant to find this info and Marina was intended to show us how a PLV company SHOULD be reacting to this sort of thing.

There are already so many layers of complexity involved with this from the perspective of someone trying to fake a leak. To suggest that they deliberately found and selected an employee who used to work for one company and then moved to another, got both of them on board, and then deliberately had massive amounts of negative press generated about them all to trick the Smash fanbase into thinking we got the Ultimate roster so that we can inevitably be disappointed albeit surprised is an idea which transcends consideration.

 

[Union of Darkness]

While doing my research to disprove the Greninja tongue theory (I did, see my previous post) I found some inetresting pictures of Greninja and his tongue:
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It's actually terrifying to me that he uses his tongue as a scarf. He's tasting everything he brushes against.

 

[Z25]

Stage Blog post on Tuesday? Something is up. Odds of direct being this week over next are up!

So when do they usually do stage posts?

 

[Midget Master]

Ok, here’s a non-leak discussion topic:

Is there a character that you wanted previously and probably had a shot in appearing but due to reasons, it never happened for one reason or another?

For me, anime Meowth would had been a better Pokemon rep thank Jigglypuff. It would of been awesome to had him in 64.

Anna or Tiki as Fire Emblem reps instead of just a bunch of Marths. Iconic and recurring characters that it feels like would absolutely be at home here.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

It is dead though.

The cropped tongue wrecks the professional quality of the render because it alters the character beyond just moving it.

It's not cropped. We literally had 5 freaking pages discussing this. IT'S NOT CROPPED.

I give up I'm going to bed.

 

[doomedtacox]

Emailing a company that's probably under ND ****ing A won't get you anywhere. Even if they weren't, do you really think they'll answer some random *** person from Smashboards rather than issuing their own statement denying involvement??

Seriously guys, there's stupid and then there's advanced stupid.

Never doubt the power of spam my man. If we can someone take down or delay their email server they may be forced to take drastic measures.

 

[CosmicQuark]

Man, this thread moves way too fast.

This would truly be the best timeline.

If Sakurai masterminded all of this...he deserves the GDP of China's worth in Smash sales.

Sakurai is the undefeated four dimensional chess world champion. At the very least, never underestimate him.

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

I just hope the Direct is indeed the 1st.
We all need it.

But we sure don't deserve it. We don't deserve Sakurai at all.

I don't blame this site, or any one site in particular for the constantly escalating negativity and toxicity, but this fandom as a whole is pushing it pretty hard. I wasn't deep into ESRB-leak discussion, but I think I'm starting to get a pretty good idea.

 

[doomedtacox]

It is dead though.

The cropped tongue wrecks the professional quality of the render because it alters the character beyond just moving it.

You want some more straws to grasp? Or you got enough already?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

While doing my research to disprove the Greninja tongue theory (I did, see my previous post) I found some inetresting pictures of Greninja and his tongue:
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*saves them*

Thank you so much for your research, Doctor

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Ok, here’s a non-leak discussion topic:

Is there a character that you wanted previously and probably had a shot in appearing but due to reasons, it never happened for one reason or another?

For me, anime Meowth would had been a better Pokemon rep thank Jigglypuff. It would of been awesome to had him in 64.

Man, Ashley. I was convinced that this was her time, she's got the popularity, I believe she's got the moveset potential, but nope. Assist trophy again.

Maybe next time.

 

[Schnee117]

Never doubt the power of spam my man. If we can someone take down or delay their email server they may be forced to take drastic measures.

Jesus ****ing Christ...
Are you even listening to yourself?

 

[SmashingXan2]

Jesus it's late. I think everyone should take a breather and sleep before this leak actually ends up killing someone

 

[xXShadeXx]

Evening everyone. Is everyone done throwing insults to each other and trying to stab each other in the throat? Or should I come back in a couple hours?

 

[Fortnite4Smash]

Before I go, I just wanted to say, take a second to consider how you'll feel if it turns out MarioTehPlumber really was the leaker. Forget for a second whether you think the leak is real or not and realize that he is the leaker, this toxicity is him winning. If he is the leaker, he did it to get us to **** on each other. Imagine him gloating about his victory over the whole fanbase and reconsider how you're all acting.

bro youre way too paranoid take a nap

 

[Nekoo]

But we sure don't deserve it. We don't deserve Sakurai at all.

I don't blame this site, or any one site in particular for the constantly escalating negativity and toxicity, but this fandom as a whole is pushing it pretty hard. I wasn't deep into ESRB-leak discussion, but I think I'm starting to get a pretty good idea.

Trust me.

This worst.

Waaaaay worst. Than ESRB