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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Iridium

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These Little Mac memes have somehow made this all worth it, LOL. Literally the best thing to come out of all of this situation.
 

Guybrush20X6

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I wonder if this is what it is like at CERN between the Sting Theory believers and non-believers.

Only we don't have the budget to build a supercollider to sort things out.
 

Chrollo.

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"Guys, compression is why the background is different"
2 days later
"Guys, compression doesn't exist anymore!"
Smash fans are the true Gods of this Earth. If we say something doesn’t exist then it doesn’t. It’s evolution, you either adapt or become insane.
 

Tree Gelbman

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- POTENTIALLY BIG UPDATE -

Jon from GameXplain has responded to the claims that GameXplain is being purposefully quiet about the leak

https://twitter.com/JonComms/status/1056691773915967488
To be fair if the theory was real it's not like he's gonna come out and say ''Yep. You got me. You got us. Leak's real. Hang it up boys. Sorry, Nintendo we failed you."

Though I'm still Team Hmm, so, don't go getting any crazy thoughts. Just thinking of all the possibilities and what seems the most logical.
 

Darkmoone1

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Talking about the tiny possible inconsistencies of the banner is nauseating. Let me know when something new develops on the Grinch leak itself.
 

Naiko3232

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apparently they just dont cover the leak at gamexplain at all because they dont want to.
 

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No one was cut from any mural.
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They do not edit the mural this way, they have the background and the character renders in a photoshop file.
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I thought the implication was that since the banner is in panels/tiles, they were using the wrong "mac" panel that has the "vine" bit on his shoe.
Not that they chunked it using image manipulation or anything.

Not that I believe it, but the "green" is along the tile boundary, which is what I thought the point was. Not what you're trying to imply.

Who knows, maybe I misunderstood. Haha.
Either way, it's bogus.
 
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To be honest, I've been shying away from presenting what "team" I'm on, but I can officially say I'm #TeamReal and #TeamSakuraiNeedsToStopSpoilingUsWeDontDeserveHim.
 

Dukeofdeath5

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I tried but it's not possible...
Duck Hunt is already the farthest character from any Grinch leak ones, and part of his tail/duck still goes in the section where Shadow is. Though Shadow is far, and the other characters are all aligned, only Duck Hunt has the glitch.
The only part of the mural that does not include leak characters is the one from Wario to Duck Hunt, but it confines with the Chorus Kids/Geno and Shadow parts.
Well thatd be quite the coincidence wouldn't it, not impossible though
 

Jovahexeon Joranvexeon

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there ya go
Hmm.. on the one hand, this kind of development story sounds flipping insane. Then again, I've heard crazier that's come true. Especially with devs like Kojima and Harada that exist. I could on a slim chance, see Sakurai do this.

Granted, I'm still leaning towards Incineroar being either bait or simply cut.
 

Ignoritus

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"Guys, compression is why the background is different"
2 days later
"Guys, compression doesn't exist anymore!"
You are referring to two completely separate types of compression under two completely different contexts. Also you're committing the fallacy of assuming that all people of the opposing viewpoint are using uniform arguments. I don't support the "compression" argument for the background or for this.

Everybody is just taking this one random guy at his word that the site glitched out in this way. This color does not exist in the actual banner. So the theory is literally that they have the Isaac version of the banner currently stored on their server for anybody to find if the page code just loads weird.
Multiple people observed the site glitch out that way. Unless you're implying that the dude who took that original screenshot of the glitched site that multiple people recall having happened introduced a single green pixel so that two months later he could use it to support a leak, I don't think the authenticity of it is in question.

Not to mention you're making the strange and heavily flawed implication that they can't simply remove an image from the public server once they realize it's no longer going to be used?
 
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Chrollo.

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- POTENTIALLY BIG UPDATE -

Jon from GameXplain has responded to the claims that GameXplain is being purposefully quiet about the leak

https://twitter.com/JonComms/status/1056691773915967488
I mean, the theory has been faulty since the beginning since they quoted how Jonneh clearly has insiders information as proof that they know its real but conveniently left out that he made a bet on twitter saying if the leak is real he’ll sit in a puddle of water
 

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Tree Gelbman

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Either way. It's still weird they were ultimately really dismissive of this leak, when they will literally do a 30 minute discussion video over an image Nintendo will release of Mario without his gloves on and what it could mean for the next Mario title.

Here they just sort of tried to Jedi Mind trick the leak away.

''This leak does not exist and is fake."
 
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There's a blue/green colored line that goes down the middle of the Battlefield stage. Goes right across the portion of Mac's boot y'all are looking at.
 

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To be fair if the theory was real it's not like he's gonna come out and say ''Yep. You got me. You got us. Leak's real. Hang it up boys. Sorry, Nintendo we failed you."

Though I'm still Team Hmm, so, don't go getting any crazy thoughts. Just thinking of all the possibilities and what seems the most logical.
While your point is a good one, I think them not covering the leak is purely due to the fact that they have SOMETHING that makes them believe so strongly that it's fake they won't bother covering it, because they know it would be a waste of time. Hell Jon said he'd be willing to sit in a puddle if its real.

Really think these "Nintendo are forcing them not to speak!" theories are a bit much. And I believe in the leak.
 
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Sorry if this is way too off topic but I'm posting this mindfulness breathing activity because I think we all need it in here:


Maybe take a break from the rumour for a while too, if it's causing you too much anxiety or consuming your thoughts too much.

 

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If you look at the cuff where Olimar's glove begins in the top left, you can see the cuff is a mixture of 2 color layers: greenish on top and light grey on bottom. Pretty sure the top half of the cuff color matches the little green speck near Little Mac's foot that everyone is up in arms about.
 
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Phobos_Anomaly

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Don't think the four pixels of green on Little Mac's shoe means much tbh.

If the characters are done as layers in a PSD, then there really would be no reason for any little bit of Isaac to be left over. If you get rid of the layer, you get rid of the layer. There shouldn't be anything left.

There's also the possibility that's it's just a mistake so tiny that it went unnoticed. Mac does use green after all.
This. Exactly this. As someone who uses Photoshop every single day at work, I can tell you anyone who knows how to properly layer anything would keep all items separate from one another. There shouldn't be any bleed of any kind on any of the characters if they were properly layered.
 
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ExitWound

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lol

GX: *makes 2 minute video about the leak, when normally they spend way longer on this kinda thing*

General public: "GX is being really quiet about the leak"

GX: *3 word, super dismissive response*

Duly noted.
Lol it's painfully obvious at this point. I can't wait to play as banjo
 

Luigi The President

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You seem like one of the more reasonable people here, but even I don't know what the **** you're talking about.
So there's a little green blemish on Olimar's glove;

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If you look at the cuff where Olimar's glove begins in the top left, you can see the cuff is a mixture of 2 color layers: grernish on top and light grey on bottom. Pretty sure the top half of the cuff color matches the little green speck near Little Mac's foot that everyone is up in arms about.
 
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