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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
OH OH THIS WILL REALLY GET MY BRAIN GOING!

Let me think hmmm

:ultmario:- Geno cuz at this point Duh
:ultdk:- Dixie
:ultlink:- At this point ill take anyone who isnt a Triforce bearer, Even Tingle
:ultsamus:- Sylux
:ultyoshi:- Kamek but with a redesign, or Boshi if not.
:ultkirby:- Bandana Dee
:ultfox:- Either Slippy or Peppy. Maybe Leon.
:ultpikachu:- Gun to my head i'll pick Gardevoir.. But any Gen 3, 5, or 7 ill be ok with. Even Trubbish.
:ultness:- Ninten
:ultfalcon:- Black Shadow
:ulticeclimbers:- How would you even have another one from this.. Shorts Bear?
:ultmarth:- Hector
:ultgnw:- Again no clue but I'm sure Sakurai would find a way. Maybe the wolf from Egg?
:ultpit:- Hades
:ultpit:- Hades
Spongebob
:ultwario:- Waluigi if Mario series but wario, Captain Syrup if Land, Ashley if Ware
:ultsnake:- Naked Snake or Punished Snake (wont go into spoilers)
:ultsonic:- Shadow
:ultolimar:- Louie
:ultrob:- Virtual Boy
:ultvillager:- Rover
:ultmegaman:- X
:ultwiifittrainer:- What was the name of the host of Wii Party again? Really liked that game.
:ultlittlemac:- "Iron" Mike Tyson. No I am 100% serious.
:ultmiifighters:- Mii Witch/Wizard
:ultpacman:- Ms Pacman
:ultshulk:- In an Ideal World Rex and Pyra/Mythra, since that aint happening Elma
:ultduckhunt:- Marty McFly (This one i am NOT serious about)
:ultryu:- As Ken is Agiven now, Chun Li or Akuma
:ultcloud:- Sephiroth
:ultbayonetta:- Jeanne
:ultsimon:- Alucard
 

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Okay I wanna do the one rep per series thing too.

:ultmario: - Paper Mario
:ultlink: - Impa
:ultkirby: - Dark Matter OR Susie
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong
:ultpikachu: - Guzma/Golisopod
:ultyoshi: - Kamek
:ultfox: - Krystal
:ultness: - Porky
:ultfalcon: - Black Shadow
:ultmarth: - Anna
:ultsnake: - Raiden (but based on 2 or 4)
:ultsonic: - Dr. Robotnik
:ultwario: - Captain Syrup for Wario Land, Mona for Wario Ware
:ultpit: - Medusa
:ultmegaman: - Roll! Or if we can go any series, Bass.EXE
:ultlittlemac: - Doc Louis
:ultshulk: - Elma
:ultryu: - Dan Hibiki M. Bison
:ultcloud: - Tifa
:ultbayonetta: - Jeanne
:ultinkling: - Octoling
:ultsimon: - Alucard! Or Soma. Or Shanoa.

Everyone else I can't think of right now or doesn't need one. I copied this list from another poster anyway.
 

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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
:ultmario: - Captain Toad
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong
:ultlink: - Skull Kid
:ultyoshi: - BOSHI!!!
:ultkirby: - Bandana Dee
:ultfox: - Leon
:ultpikachu: - Sceptile
:ultfalcon: - Bio Rex
:ultmarth: - Hector
:ultpit: - Hades
:ultwario: - 9-Volt
:ultsnake: - Otacon lol
:ultsonic: - Tails
:ultmegaman: - Megaman Volnutt
:ultlittlemac: - Soda Popinski
:ultshulk: - Elma
:ultryu: - Zangief (There, now you have your grappler!!!)
:ultcloud: - Terra
:ultbayonetta: - Rodin
:ultsimon: - Soma Cruz

All the rest are good as is...
 
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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
:ultmario:: Captain Toad could still be in the running I suppose, so him.
:ultlink:: Skull Kid
:ultmarth:: Tiki
:ultfalcon:: F-Zero seems good as is.
:ultwario:: Katt & Anna
:ultlittlemac:: King Hippo
:ultsamus:: Metroid is good.
:ultshulk:: Elma
:ultmiifighters:: Miis are fine as they are.
:ultyoshi:: Kamek
:ultpikachu:: Primarina
:ultness:: Porky, I guess?
:ultolimar:: Louie
:ultkirby:: Adeleine
:ultpit:: KI is good in my book.
:ultfox:: Honestly don't think Star Fox needs any more after Wolf coming back.
:ultdk:: Dixie Kong
:ultvillager:: K.K. Slider
:ultinkling:: Octolings
:ultwiifittrainer:: Balance Board. Not even joking, I'd love that.
:ultmegaman:: Roll
:ultsonic:: Eggman
:ultsnake:: Revolver Ocelot
:ultcloud:: Noctis
:ultryu:: Chun-Li
:ultsimon:: I think we're good on Castlevania.
:ultpacman:: Ms. Pac Man
:ultbayonetta:: No thanks.
 
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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
All right I'll give it a go:

:ultmario: - Captain Toad (if he isn't deconfirmed) (I have no desire to see Geno in the game)
:ultlink: - Impa
:ultkirby: - Bandana Waddle Dee
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong
:ultsamus: - Sylux (We don't need any more reps though)
:ultpikachu: - Sceptile (Tapu Koko is also up there)
:ultyoshi: - Kamek
:ultfox: - Slippy
:ultness: - Porky
:ultfalcon: - Black Shadow
:ultmarth: - Anna (If Lyn wasn't an AT, she would be here)
:ultsnake: - Raiden
:ultsonic: - Shadow (Tails is a very close second)
:ultwario: - Kat and Ana (If Ashley wasn't an AT, she would be here)
:ultpit: - Medusa
:ultolimar: - Louie (I guess?)
:ultvillager: - We don't need any more reps
:ultmegaman: - Roll
:ultlittlemac: - Glass Joe
:ultpacman: - Ms. Pac-Man
:ultshulk: - Elma (Obviously)
:ultryu: - Ken (Chun-Li is also up there)
:ultcloud: - Tifa
:ultbayonetta: - Jeanne
:ultinkling: - Octoling
:ultsimon: - We don't need any more reps
 
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We should get Enzo from Bayonetta as a newcomer.
We need to have more fat italians and pizza pasta
 

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OH OH THIS WILL REALLY GET MY BRAIN GOING!

Let me think hmmm

:ultmario:- Geno cuz at this point Duh
:ultdk:- Dixie
:ultlink:- At this point ill take anyone who isnt a Triforce bearer, Even Tingle
:ultsamus:- Sylux
:ultyoshi:- Kamek but with a redesign, or Boshi if not.
:ultkirby:- Bandana Dee
:ultfox:- Either Slippy or Peppy. Maybe Leon.
:ultpikachu:- Gun to my head i'll pick Gardevoir.. But any Gen 3, 5, or 7 ill be ok with. Even Trubbish.
:ultness:- Ninten
:ultfalcon:- Black Shadow
:ulticeclimbers:- How would you even have another one from this.. Shorts Bear?
:ultmarth:- Hector
:ultgnw:- Again no clue but I'm sure Sakurai would find a way. Maybe the wolf from Egg?
:ultpit:- Hades
:ultpit:- Hades
Spongebob
:ultwario:- Waluigi if Mario series but wario, Captain Syrup if Land, Ashley if Ware
:ultsnake:- Naked Snake or Punished Snake (wont go into spoilers)
:ultsonic:- Shadow
:ultolimar:- Louie
:ultrob:- Virtual Boy
:ultvillager:- Rover
:ultmegaman:- X
:ultwiifittrainer:- What was the name of the host of Wii Party again? Really liked that game.
:ultlittlemac:- "Iron" Mike Tyson. No I am 100% serious.
:ultmiifighters:- Mii Witch/Wizard
:ultpacman:- Ms Pacman
:ultshulk:- In an Ideal World Rex and Pyra/Mythra, since that aint happening Elma
:ultduckhunt:- Marty McFly (This one i am NOT serious about)
:ultryu:- As Ken is Agiven now, Chun Li or Akuma
:ultcloud:- Sephiroth
:ultbayonetta:- Jeanne
:ultsimon:- Alucard
You named Hades twice...that must means Hades clones himself twice
Okay I wanna do the one rep per series thing too.
:ultmario: - Paper Mario
:ultlink: - Impa
:ultkirby: - Dark Matter OR Susie
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong
:ultpikachu: - Guzma/Golisopod
:ultyoshi: - Kamek
:ultfox: - Krystal
:ultness: - Porky
:ultfalcon: - Black Shadow
:ultmarth: - Anna
:ultsnake: - Raiden (but based on 2 or 4)
:ultsonic: - Dr. Robotnik
:ultwario: - Captain Syrup for Wario Land, Mona for Wario Ware
:ultpit: - Medusa
:ultmegaman: - Roll! Or if we can go any series, Bass.EXE
:ultlittlemac: - Doc Louis
:ultshulk: - Elma
:ultryu: - Dan Hibiki M. Bison
:ultcloud: - Tifa
:ultbayonetta: - Jeanne
:ultinkling: - Octoling
:ultsimon: - Alucard! Or Soma. Or Shanoa.

Everyone else I can't think of right now or doesn't need one. I copied this list from another poster anyway.
Good choices
:ultmario: - Captain Toad
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong
:ultlink: - Skull Kid
:ultyoshi: - BOSHI!!!
:ultkirby: - Bandana Dee
:ultfox: - Leon
:ultpikachu: - Sceptile
:ultfalcon: - Bio Rex
:ultmarth: - Hector
:ultpit: - Hades
:ultwario: - 9-Volt
:ultsnake: - Otacon lol
:ultsonic: - Tails
:ultmegaman: - Megaman Volnutt
:ultlittlemac: - Soda Popinski
:ultshulk: - Elma
:ultryu: - Zangief (There, now you have your grappler!!!)
:ultcloud: - Terra
:ultbayonetta: - Rodin
:ultsimon: - Soma Cruz

All the rest are good as is...
Rodin might be a problem since he’s an AT character...and the choice of Boshi doesn’t surprise me
:ultbayonetta:: No thanks.
excellent choice
We should get Enzo from Bayonetta as a newcomer.
We need to have more fat italians and pizza pasta
All Hail Fatalians
All right I'll give it a go:

:ultmario: - Paper Mario (I have no desire to see Geno in the game)
:ultlink: - Impa
:ultkirby: - Bandana Waddle Dee
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong
:ultsamus: - Sylux (We don't need any more reps though)
:ultpikachu: - Sceptile
:ultyoshi: - Kamek
:ultfox: - Slippy
:ultness: - Porky
:ultfalcon: - Black Shadow
:ultmarth: - Anna
:ultsnake: - Raiden
:ultsonic: - Shadow (Tails is a very close second)
:ultwario: - Kat and Ana (If Ashley wasn't an AT, she would be here)
:ultpit: - Medusa
:ultolimar: - Louie (I guess?)
:ultvillager: - We don't need any more reps
:ultmegaman: - Roll
:ultlittlemac: - Glass Joe
:ultshulk: - Elma (Obviously)
:ultryu: - Ken
:ultcloud: - Tifa
:ultbayonetta: - Jeanne
:ultinkling: - Octoling
:ultsimon: - We don't need any more reps
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Odd not to see Bayo as a Sega character.
Not to me. I see her as a Platinum character who was published by SEGA once.
Bayo 2 got published by Nintendo. And I imagine Bayo 3 will be as well.

And yes, I know SEGA is credited at the end of Bayo 2. But to me, she's still a Platinum character, what can I say?
She's probably as SEGA as Red and Blue from Gunstar Heroes or Dynamite Headdy who were made by Treasure.
 

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:ultmario:- Paper Mario
:ultdk:- Dixie
:ultlink:- Skull Kid
:ultsamus:- Sylux
:ultyoshi:- ??? (I can't think of anyone)
:ultkirby:- Marx
:ultfox:- Slippy I suppose
:ultpikachu:- Lycanroc
:ultness:- Porky
:ultfalcon:- Deathborn (Cuz he's cooler looking than Black Shadow)
:ulticeclimbers:- ???
:ultmarth:- I guess Black Knight, but I think FE is fine as is
:ultpit:- Medusa
:ultwario:- Mona, but I don't really think we need more Wario Ware reps though
:ultsnake:- Raiden
:ultsonic:- Tails
:ultolimar:- Louie
:ultrob:- ???
:ultvillager:- I think Isabelle is fine
:ultmegaman:- Proto Man
:ultwiifittrainer:- ??? Reckless Wii Safety Remote Guy
:ultlittlemac:- ???
:ultmiifighters:- ??? That trainer Mii guy from literally every Wii Sports game
:ultpacman:- Ms. Pacman
:ultshulk:- Elma
:ultduckhunt:- ???
:ultryu:- Ken (or Chun Li/M. Bison if they add a unique fighter)
:ultcloud:- Um, I guess Zack Fair or Noctis...? (Don't know much about FF)
:ultbayonetta:- ???
:ultsimon:- Soma Cruz or Shanoa
 
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:ultrob: - Prof Hector & Prof Vector



He was in Dreamland 3 with ROB
 
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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
:ultmario:Foreman Spike
:ultdk:Dixie Kong
:ultlink:Vaati
:ultsamus:Rundas
:ultyoshi:Kamek
:ultkirby:Marx
:ultfox:Slippy Toad
:ultpikachu:Misty (Maybe even as a second Trainer...?)
:ultness:Giygas
:ultfalcon:Jody Summer
:ulticeclimbers:Doesn't need a second rep.
:ultmarth:Arthur
:ultgnw:Mini Kangaroo. Frick it.
:ultpit:Medusa
:ultwario:Waluigi, I guess.
:ultsnake::ultsimon::ultrichter:Frogger (I'll count different third-party franchises as the same company.)
:ultsonic::ultbayonetta:NiGHTS
:ultolimar:Louie
:ultrob:Diskun. Same as Mr. G&W/Mini Kangaroo.
:ultvillager:Mr. Resetti
:ultmegaman::ultryu:Phoenix Wright
:ultwiifittrainer:No idea, so I'll skip over this.
:ultlittlemac:Super Macho Man
:ultmiifighters:A magician class!
:ultpacman:Taizo Hori
:ultshulk:Elma
:ultduckhunt:No idea.
:ultcloud:Bub & Bob. Square Enix owns Taito, so yes, I'm going there.
:ultinkling:Octoling
 

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Not to me. I see her as a Platinum character who was published by SEGA once.
Bayo 2 got published by Nintendo. And I imagine Bayo 3 will be as well.

And yes, I know SEGA is credited at the end of Bayo 2. But to me, she's still a Platinum character, what can I say?
She's probably as SEGA as Red and Blue from Gunstar Heroes or Dynamite Headdy who were made by Treasure.
Platinum isn't a publisher though

They don't own the rights to the character
 

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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
:ultmario: - Geno
:ultlink: - Impa
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong (can't think of others aside from Lanky, Cranky, Chunky or...Candy?)
:ultkirby: - Bandana Dee/Daroach
:ultmarth: - Leif
:ultfalcon: - Black Shadow
:ultyoshi: - Uhh, Boshi, I guess?
:ultsamus: - Sylux
:ultfox: - James McCloud (seriously)
:ultsonic: - Shadow (or Tails/Silver/Eggman)
:ultryu: - Ken (or Guile/Chun-li/Akuma)
:ultpokemontrainer: - Haxorus
:ultshulk: - Elma, I guess.
:ultsimon: - Soma Cruz
:ultpacman: - Mrs. Pac-Man
:ultness: - Ninten
:ultolimar: - Louie, I guess (or Brittany)
:ultvillager: - Digby
:ultmegaman: - Roll (or Dr. Wily)
:ultlittlemac: - Glass Joe (for the memes)
:ultcloud: - Zack Fair (or Vincent Valentine)
:ultbayonetta: - ...Jeanne
:ultpit: - Hades (or Viridi. Medusa and Phosphora could work, but what about Pyrrhon?)
:ultwario: - 9-Volt
:ultsnake: - Raiden

I did most of what I think of. Some (:ultgnw: & :ulticeclimbers:) just have about nothing left.
 
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Who I think deserve a slot: Shadow, Bandana Dee, Geno
Who I'd like to see in: Crash Bandicoot, Doomguy, Elma, Rex and Pyra, Waluigi (RIP), Tom Nook (probably RIP), Decidueye, Tails, Knuckles (RIP)
Who I'd be ok with: Lara Croft, Steve, Monster Hunter
Who I absolutely don't want: Any fortnite representation and any more FE representation

Outside of those ^ I don't really have super strong opinions and would probably be fine with or indifferent towards their inclusion.
Who I think deserves* a slot: Banjo & Kazooie, Geno, Shadow, Dixie, Crash, Bomberman (RIP), Rayman
Who I'd like to see: Isaac, Elma, Tails, Sora, Joker, Dante, Rex & Pyra, Agumon
Who I'd be okay with: Bandana Waddle Dee, Skull Kid, Lloyd, Erdrick
Who I absolutely don't want: Any character from a game where it's more about the world than the characters (e.g., Minecraft, Fortnite, etc)

*"deserves" is obviously sensitive, and really no character deserves to be in, but these are the closest I feel who've earned it
 

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I'm my old "What characters I want for Smash" lists I used to make as a kid, I actually included Prof Hector and Rob as a character.

You'd play as ROB and prof Hector would appear in the background controlling him. Kind of like Pokemon Trainer

It was before Brawl
 

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Who I think deserve a slot: Shadow, Bandana Dee, Geno
Who I'd like to see in: Crash Bandicoot, Doomguy, Elma, Rex and Pyra, Waluigi (RIP), Tom Nook (probably RIP), Decidueye, Tails, Knuckles (RIP)
Who I'd be ok with: Lara Croft, Steve, Monster Hunter
Who I absolutely don't want: Any fortnite representation and any more FE representation

Outside of those ^ I don't really have super strong opinions and would probably be fine with or indifferent towards their inclusion.
You know what I feel like starting a debate.

Deserve is a word a lot of people hate on here but you know there are some characters I can understand the logic behind. Dixie and Bandanna Dee are the two big ones for me. But that's not what I wanna debate.

Does Geno really deserve a spot?

He hasn't had an actual appearance, outside of a cameo which even then is a decade old cameo, in over 20 years (a long time in video game life span). As a Nintendo character he is in no way an all star, or even relevant to his series, and as a third party character he is in no way recognizable outside of the Smash community nor is he a gaming icon, which more or less is the standard for guest characters. Even Bayonetta is more of an icon.

The one game he originates from is not incredibly well known (wasn't released in Europe until Virtual Console and it's sales are meager compared to other Mario series titles) and even then it's not like he is the title character from that game, he's only a party member.

His two major points he has is Sakurai likes him and that he's popular in the Smash community. Neither of these shout "deserving" any more than characters like Toad, Dixie Kong and Bandanna Dee.

Anyway those are just some of my points for this friendly debate to talk about something new in this thread. I'm 100% down for Geno and want him a bit just for his fans, but I'd like to hear some stuff behind why he would be considered a deserving character. Or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just trying to find an interesting topic.
 

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:ultmario: - Waluigi
:ultdk: - Dixie Kong
:ultlink: - Impa
:ultyoshi: - Birdo
:ultkirby: - Bandana Dee
:ultfox: - Slippy+Peppy duo
:ultpikachu: - Meowth
:ultfalcon: - Samurai Goroh/Black Shadow
:ultmarth: - Black Knight (just so I can team up with a BK main and be "Sonic & the Black Knight)
:ultpit: - Medusa
:ultwario: - Captain Syrup
:ultsnake: - Raiden
:ultsonic: - Tails/Metal Sonic/Shadow/Knuckles either one I'm 100% on board
:ultmegaman: - Protoman/Roll
:ultlittlemac: - Doc Louis/King Hippo/Mr.Sandman. Either one is good.
:ultshulk: - Elma
:ultryu: - Chun Li
:ultcloud: - Erdrick (going for Square Enix rep) - Terra (going for FF character)
:ultbayonetta: - Jenna, whatever
:ultsimon: - Shanoa
 

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You know what I feel like starting a debate.

Deserve is a word a lot of people hate on here but you know there are some characters I can understand the logic behind. Dixie and Bandanna Dee are the two big ones for me. But that's not what I wanna debate.

Does Geno really deserve a spot?

He hasn't had an actual appearance, outside of a cameo which even then is a decade old cameo, in over 20 years (a long time in video game life span). As a Nintendo character he is in no way an all star, or even relevant to his series, and as a third party character he is in no way recognizable outside of the Smash community nor is he a gaming icon, which more or less is the standard for guest characters. Even Bayonetta is more of an icon.

The one game he originates from is not incredibly well known (wasn't released in Europe until Virtual Console and it's sales are meager compared to other Mario series titles) and even then it's not like he is the title character from that game, he's only a party member.

His two major points he has is Sakurai likes him and that he's popular in the Smash community. Neither of these shout "deserving" any more than characters like Toad, Dixie Kong and Bandanna Dee.

Anyway those are just some of my points for this friendly debate to talk about something new in this thread. I'm 100% down for Geno and want him a bit just for his fans, but I'd like to hear some stuff behind why he would be considered a deserving character. Or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just trying to find an interesting topic.
I generally agreed with that on Geno a few months ago, but he goes a long ways back. I feel like many characters who've been wanted since Melee who are still very popular (in the top 10s) "deserve" to be in, as that is a feat onto itself, and the longest standing ones left are Geno and Banjo & Kazooie.
 

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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
:ultmario:: Seeing as Pauline is unavailable and the Captain's status is uncertain, Birdo may do in the meantime.
:ultdk:: Dixie Kong
:ultlink:: Impa, I suppose.
:ultkirby:: Bandana Dee, since he's on top of the priority list.
:ultwario:: Mona
:ultfox:: Miyu
:ultpit:: Medusa
:ultpikachu:: Masked Royal
:ultsamus:: Sylux
:ultmarth:: Black Knight
:ultmiifighters:: Somebody from Miitopia
:ultvillager:: Mr. Resetti
:ultolimar:: Either Brittany or Charlie.
:ultgnw:: Wolf from Egg, hah
:ultlittlemac:: Super! Macho!! MAN!!!
:ultness:: Masked Man
:ultshulk:: Elma
:ultyoshi:: Poochy
:ultfalcon:: Deathborn
:ultinkling:: DJ Octavio
:ulticeclimbers:: Polar Bear, just to see how the hell that would even work
:ultrob:: Professor Hector
:ultduckhunt:: Mr. Stevenson
:ultsnake:: Raiden
:ultsimon:: Soma Cruz
:ultsonic:: Blaze
:ultmegaman:: Roll
:ultpacman:: Ms. Pac-Man
:ultbayonetta:: Father Balder, just because
 

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You know what I feel like starting a debate.

Deserve is a word a lot of people hate on here but you know there are some characters I can understand the logic behind. Dixie and Bandanna Dee are the two big ones for me. But that's not what I wanna debate.

Does Geno really deserve a spot?

He hasn't had an actual appearance, outside of a cameo which even then is a decade old cameo, in over 20 years (a long time in video game life span). As a Nintendo character he is in no way an all star, or even relevant to his series, and as a third party character he is in no way recognizable outside of the Smash community nor is he a gaming icon, which more or less is the standard for guest characters. Even Bayonetta is more of an icon.

The one game he originates from is not incredibly well known (wasn't released in Europe until Virtual Console and it's sales are meager compared to other Mario series titles) and even then it's not like he is the title character from that game, he's only a party member.

His two major points he has is Sakurai likes him and that he's popular in the Smash community. Neither of these shout "deserving" any more than characters like Toad, Dixie Kong and Bandanna Dee.

Anyway those are just some of my points for this friendly debate to talk about something new in this thread. I'm 100% down for Geno and want him a bit just for his fans, but I'd like to hear some stuff behind why he would be considered a deserving character. Or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just trying to find an interesting topic.
There is such a thing as deserving it due to sheer popularity and fan demand.

Geno doesn't deserve it for any other reason, that's obvious. But the fact that he's remained so prominent for over a decade certainly makes him deserving in my book.

If anyone tells you Geno's an icon or something like that they're lying. But I feel sometimes popularity simply outweighs that.
 

Koopaul

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Does Geno really deserve a spot?
Does anyone deserve a spot? Sakurai doesn't have strict qualifications for fighter and there can be a great number of reasons to justify making a character into a fighter. Sakurai himself was interested in Geno simply because he thought he'd make an interesting fighter for having a gun for a hand. That's good enough for him.

People seem to think that these Smash fighters needed to tick off something specific in order to earn the spot. But do you even know what those checkmarks are if they actually exist?
 
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A character from each series with a character rep in Smash...name a newcomer you’d like to see

EX: :ultmario:-Geno and :ultlink:-...Linkle
**** linkle

:ultmario:: Paper Mario (sorry Waluigi but this is a priority).
:ultdk:: My brain is saying Dixie, but my heart wants Cranky so damn bad.
:ultlink:: half the damn cast Skull Kid. Tetra, WW Ganondorf and Midna are all acceptable as well.
:ultyoshi:: Kamek.
:ultkirby:: Close between Dee and Marx but Dee wins it.
:ultfox:: Krystal.
:ultpikachu:: half the damn cast Mimikyu.
:ultfalcon:: Black Shadow.
:ultmarth:: Hector.
:ultpit:: HADES DARLING.
:ultwario:: Mona.
:ultsnake:: Raiden.
:ultsonic:: Close between Tails and Shadow but I'll take Tails.
:ultmegaman:: Protoman.
:ultlittlemac:: Mike Tyson Probably Mr.Sandman.
:ultshulk:: Elma.
:ultryu:: Ken, but since he's basically all but in Akuma. (I like shotos okay don't judge).
:ultcloud:: Cecil Harvey.
:ultbayonetta:: Jeanne.
:ultsimon:: Alucard.

EDIT: I forgot a few.

:ultinkling:: Octoling I guess?
:ultness:: Masked Man.
:ultolimar:: Louie.
:ultvillager:: Tom Nook.



Also I didn't include any of these: :ultduckhunt::ultpacman::ultgnw::ultmiifighters::ultwiifittrainer::ultrob: cause come on.
 
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I generally agreed with that on Geno a few months ago, but he goes a long ways back. I feel like many characters who've been wanted since Melee who are still very popular (in the top 10s) "deserve" to be in, as that is a feat onto itself, and the longest standing ones left are Geno and Banjo & Kazooie.
There is such a thing as deserving it due to sheer popularity and fan demand.

Geno doesn't deserve it for any other reason, that's obvious. But the fact that he's remained so prominent for over a decade certainly makes him deserving in my book.

If anyone tells you Geno's an icon or something like that they're lying. But I feel sometimes popularity simply outweighs that.
I don't mean to discredit popularity and while its hard to measure popularity, I'm sure Geno has higher demand in the Smash community. But outside of that he definitely falls flat where as other characters don't.

I do think his popularity is the only reason he is considered "deserving" and in my oppinion that isn't enough when other deserving characters have that and more.

Does anyone deserve a spot? Sakurai doesn't have strict qualifications for fighter and there can be a great number of reasons to justify making a character into a fighter. Sakurai himself was interested in Geno simply because he thought he'd make an interesting fighter for having a gun for a hand. That's good enough for him.

People seem to think that these Smash fighters needed to tick off something specific in order to earn the spot. But do you even know what those checkmarks are if they actually exist?
I see you didn't read through my post :/ or maybe missed the edit.

No, no character deserves to be in Smash, that's made up. However people definitely think that and I wanted to discuss why people thought Geno was deserving when compared to other deserving characters.

So yea I know no one is actually deserving, mostly because they aren't real people.
 
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