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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Just came back from lunch. Does that mean the Ken leak has been proven fake?
Based off Pichu's icon, it looks like it. Although, I suppose there's always the chance that small things like this got changed through development, as unlikely as that may seem.

Regardless, I think it's funny how quickly people changed sides on the "Ken leak" and acted like they were never wrong.
 
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Well R.I.P Ken leak. Lasted 5 minutes.

So, I came up with a roster of Smash was made for the SNES.
:ultmario:
:ultluigi:
:ultdk:
:ultlink:
:ultsamus:
:ultpit:
:ultkirby:
:ultfox:
:ultpikachu:
:ultmewtwo:
(Sigurd from Fire Emblem)
:ultfalcon:
:ultness:
:ultmegaman:
:ultsimon:
(Cecil Harvey from Final Fantasy)
(Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden)
(Bill Rizier from Contra)
(Rash from Battletoads)
What do you think?
I dont understand the game... if it is on the SNES, there are no Pokemon.
 

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Why would they change this in mid-development? If you want your leak to be considered "real" you have to be 100% on the dot in every nook and cranny, otherwise people WILL find a discrepancy.

This is just another Palutena Hoax.

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Honestly? It looks better when the character art doesn't end up higher than the highest point of the box. If what we're looking at is in fact real, it's a very reasonable change to make.

Also, any claim that the icon is ripped from this image is null, if you actually look at the 'leaked image', Pichu is actually placed differently from this picture, you can see more black from his left ear and his right arm is touching the border. It's not just grabbed from this.

And before someone else asks 'why would they change something like this mid-development?' we've seen it literally before our eyes with Wolf's shoes. They've exposed us to unfinished elements on multiple occasions. Dunno how anybody saying 'Wolf and Young Lin are gonna get touched up before release!' can also claim 'Why would they alter something mid-development!?'
 

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Oh. I thought Sakurai said he wanted to put either one of those characters in 64 or something.
No, it was Marth he wanted to add during 64.

:ultmarth::ultbowser::ultmewtwo::ultkingdedede: are the only confirmed "planned but dropped due to time/technical limitations" 64 characters.
 

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Pokemon only came out 5 months before the N64 in Japan so I kind of doubt they'd be in an SNES Smash
 

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If this is real it looks be a very early build, I wonder if this is where Vergeben got his info from...
 
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I have a feeling this is gonna be debated for at least over the weekend, lol.

I'm flip flopping with this. I thought it was real for a solid 5 minutes and then went to thinking it was fake. Now I'm entertaining it not being dead yet. I should've just stayed neutral like I originally posted. :p
 
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Yeah! Just like the ESRB leak with "disablad"! And Wario missing a pupil! And G&W's hand clipping into Wario's portrait!

Stuff like this happens all the time, it could just as easily have been changed during development or even be an error.

EDIT: Look at masterluigi1 masterluigi1 's post for an example of an icon changing.
We have only seen instances of different renders being swapped out, and even then they still had the same proportions. I would like to see evidence of these portrait proportions changing mid-development. Why would Pac-Man's hand and Pichu's ear be cut off this far in development when we have clearly seen evidence of these portraits done way earlier?
 

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Why would they change this in mid-development? If you want your leak to be considered "real" you have to be 100% on the dot in every nook and cranny, otherwise people WILL find a discrepancy.

This is just another Palutena Hoax.

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Because the ear goes way over the portrait, which is a little inconsistent with other character portraits? cutting it off brings it more in line.

If the leak is real, and it has a part that may not look 100% real, the leaker isn't going to edit it to match what people are expecting. They're going to post it as-is. The goal of a leaker isn't to have a picture that will pass all scrutiny, that's the goal of a fake leaker. A real leaker doesn't care about that because he will be proven right.

Also as a side note, it's very hard to take anything you post seriously, between your avatar and signature you look like a raving lunatic xD
 
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I know this is a dumb reasoning but I want to believe no one would go through all this effort just to fake a freaking Ken lol.

I know we saw it with Palutena but at least was just Palutena and Mario, this one seems more elaborate.
 

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I'm saying stop jumping to conclusions, and maybe think for yourselves a little bit.
I'd say "high expectations for this crowd," but in reality, I think that is too much to ask of any general population.
For better or worse.
 

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We have only seen instances of different renders being swapped out, and even then they still had the same proportions. I would like to see evidence of these portrait proportions changing mid-development. Why would Pac-Man's hand and Pichu's ear be cut off this far in development when we have clearly seen evidence of these portraits done way earlier?
Like I said, MasterLuigi's post clearly shows Ridley's icon render changing from E3 to the waaay later build that we got gameplay of Chrom and Dark Samus off of.
 

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I know this is a dumb reasoning but I want to believe no one would go through all this effort just to fake a freaking Ken lol.

I know we saw it with Palutena but at least was just Palutena and Mario, this one seems more elaborate.
In all honesty the only reason why I care about this is if its real, the person might have more. I want this drought to end already.
 

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I'd say "high expectations for this crowd," but in reality, I think that is too much to ask of any general population.
For better or worse.
That's a bit of a bleak outlook. I think the posters here are mainly high school or younger, so they are very impressionable, and fast to dismiss logic. I tend to have a little more belief in humanity than that. They will learn when they're older, or forever struggle in life.
 

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Yeah in the E3 build pacman's arm doesn't extend over.
I think this is an older build, possibly pre-E3.
 
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Based off Pichu's icon, it looks like it. I suppose there's always the chance things changed through development though.

Regardless, I think it's funny how quickly people changed sides on the "Ken leak" and acted like they were never wrong.
it's a dog-eat-leak world out there
 

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Like I said, MasterLuigi's post clearly shows Ridley's icon render changing from E3 to the waaay later build that we got gameplay of Chrom and Dark Samus off of.
But now look how far Ridley's head goes out of the portrait box in the Dark Samus + Chrom matchup. Wouldn't it make sense to still have Pichu's ear be intact if Ridley's head goes THAT far off?
 
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But now look how far Ridley's head goes out of the portrait box. Wouldn't it make sense to still have Pichu's ear be intact if Ridley's head goes THAT far off?
I might be understanding your post wrong, but it sounds to me like you have the two mixed up. The one with Ridley's head sticking out is from E3, the one where they hid it is from the new Chrom/Dark Samus build.

Assuming this leak is from the latest build then yeah they'd match Pichu and Pac-Man to not go out of their picture, just like they did with Ridley.


Wait no sorry @TotsBS I'm the idiot. It's the way you said.

That does make sense, I dunno now.
 
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Uncharacteristic of me, I'm on Team Real for the Ken screenshot.

This is coming from someone who is doubling down on Geno in October mind you so don't take my word for it, I say crazy things.
 

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The cropped ear looks really unprofessional

Why even make it go outside the box if your just going to crop it?
 

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Oh, there's also those Garden Blue, Dante and Minecreaft Steve ones but I can't even make heads or tails of them

Do you keep that vital implement if it is posted but turns out to be fake?
All of those leaks are just floating in time without any supposed proof coming out until the game drops, and this one at least said it would drop a video

Even if it's fake and they somehow fake a good quality video i will still lose my left nut
 
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