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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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In regards to the Riddle rumor. Even though a character mainly doesn't debunk a rumor. Scorpion IMO is an exception to this rule. Pretty much any rumor that has him is automatically fake.

1. Mortal Kombat's main gimmick is the brutal violence and finishing moves, it couldn't fly past the radar in Smash unlike Bayonetta.
2. Mortal Kombat is incredibly unpopular in Japan. Only a few people in Japan would actually know he is. If there's going to be a western 3rd party character, it's gotta be someone that's recognizable in Japan like Crash or Banjo(I Think). Lara could qualify as Square has been trying to push her to Japanese gamers(They did a Tomb Raider Pixiv contest and put her in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius).
 
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So, what Assist Trophies would you all like to see? This is a question I don't see asked very often, and I just want to see your thoughts.

Edit: I would like Fi.

Additional edit: It has to be a new character to Smash.
Adeline (Kirby)
Bob (Animal Crossing)
Sidon (Zelda)
Balance Board (Wii Fit)
Professor Sycamore (Pokémon)
Wally (Pokémon)
ANY POKEMON TRAINER EVER (Pokémon)
Giygas (Earthbound)
Suzie (Kirby)
Pearl and Marina (Splatoon)
T-Rex (Mario)
Galactic Nova (Kirby)
Dark Lord (Mii)
Petey Pirahna (Mario)

Also bring Resetti back. That AT was genius.

So here's a forum game to throw around:
What are your top five favorite franchises included in Smash Bros.?
For me personally:
1. :ultpokemontrainer:
2. :ultmario:
3. :ultlink:
4. :ultlucina:
5. :ultsamus:

Jeez, that looks awful. Like I get someone put effort into this, but it's definitely not that easy to pull off.
Also, I could've sworn you hated us discussing "obvious fake leaks", so why do you bring this one up?
1. :ultkirby: (Favorite: Robobot)
2. :ultpikachu: (Favorite: X/Y)
3. :ultzelda: (Favorite: BotW)
4. :ultinkling: (Favorite: Splatoon 2)
5. :ultness: (Favorite: Earthbound <3)

He likes his twinks
Don't we all...
 
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Favorite Franchises
1.:ultlink:
2.:ultinkling:
3.:ultpikachu:
4.:ultolimar:
5.:ultmario:
This put into perspective that I don't actually play a lot of the series in smash. That isn't to say I never have, I just haven't to the point of saying I'm a fan of them like the 5 above.
 

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You know, I'm going to be really surprised if we don't see any Ubisoft content in Ultimate.
Consider the following:
1.) Mario + Rabbids began production in 2015, which was the same year that the first project plan for Ultimate was finalized.
2.)Ubisoft had three trophies in Smash 4 and if we take a look at polls, Rayman was popular in the Ballot era.
3.)Following the announcement of Fox in Starlink, Ubisoft said to expect more collaborations in the future.
https://nintendoeverything.com/ubisoft-ceo-says-nintendo-collaborations-will-continue/
4.) Following the announcement of Mario + Rabbids selling 2 million copies, they have reiterated their "long term relationship" with Nintendo.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...difficult_times_has_helped_their_relationship
5.) Although most of the character additions have been worldwide favorites, Sakurai is also adding characters that the western Smash fanbase wants, whether as an AT (Shovel Knight), Echo (Dark Samus), or newcomer (Ridley).
Given all of this info, I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility for more Ubisoft representation in Ultimate. Not necessarily a character, but more likely an AT. Rayman could be a popular character that follows in the AT footsteps of popular characters such as Knuckles, Zero, Krystal, Bomberman, and Shovel Knight, but the addition of Sukapon, another limbless character, makes me wonder if it would be someone else.
If Rayman doesn't get in the base game as a character or AT, I think he has a fairly good shot as DLC.
All Mario + Rabbids does is show how awesome the Rabbids are. It really doesn't help Rayman, but I could see a combination of Rayman and Rabbids among playable/AT/trophies.

I think we will see both in some way. Not one or the other. They're both iconic, highly popular, and unique in their own rights.
 
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Yeah, I hear the lines are crazy. Hoping no one goes to the GameStop I will go to. Maybe everyone else can go to Best Buy, like there...
I think I'm just fine waiting for a demo or testsmash.
Right. Bit of a thinkpiece here, but to be honest, looking at stuff like this, the rather huge reaction to Civilization VI coming to Switch in November, people still buying Switches in droves, Nintendo is starting to get back on a roll later on this year. At this point, I'm just gonna end up seeing problems like "cloud saves" and such be swept under the rug because of games and hype, because look at how long that line is, man.

You see it happen with Sony with the games they got; I have quite a few of problems I have with the PS4, mostly it's online stuff and how they handle their legacy content with PS3, PS2 and PS1 games, but at this point, they aren't gonna be fixed and will only just get mentioned because people are buying the system like hotcakes and big hitters like God of War and Spider-Man are the only thing people's attentions are at. They don't care about things like cross-play when you're focusing on a good game (and boy did that issue get swept under).

Not to mention these problems - whether it be Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft - don't really hit the mainstream as they should, so whenever I see something like "Sony Will Never Fix Cross-Play Issues" or "Nintendo's Online Service Has Been Handled Terribly" I just look at it with a jaded view because these problems never usually get fixed cause their respective platforms are still printing them money and most people just have other priorities.

Sorry for the long post, but man, I just gotta figure out where I could put these thoughts at since I've been seeing these stories lately.
 

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Imo Zelda has really obnoxious fans that overrate it a bit like Undertale.

Though this is only my opinion
Almost every fanbase has obnoxious fans; some are just more notable than others.
---Somewhat related---
Fan backlash has been a thing for decades. Arthur Conan Doyle brought Sherlock Holmes back to life because of fan backlash.
 

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Top 5 Favorite franchises? Hmm that's a toughie.
  1. :ultsnake:/:ultlink: tie
  2. Above
  3. :ultsamus:
  4. :ultike:
  5. :ultsimon:/:ultmegaman:/:ultdk:
That was harder than it should've been...
 
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Almost every fanbase has obnoxious fans; some are just more notable than others.
---Somewhat related---
Fan backlash has been a thing for decades. Arthur Conan Doyle brought Sherlock Holmes back to life because of fan backlash.
Do you think Bubsy has a fanbase? :troll:
 

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So, what Assist Trophies would you all like to see? This is a question I don't see asked very often, and I just want to see your thoughts.

Edit: I would like Fi.

Additional edit: It has to be a new character to Smash.
Poochy
Eggplant Wizard
King Hippo
Chun-Li
An ARMS rep
 

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My last few posts gave me an interesting thought. Does anyone here think that it could be possible to turn a playable character into an Assist Trophy? In the event that Sakurai considers cutting characters again, is it possible that this could happen to some characters (aside from :ultdarksamus: and:ultlittlemac: to a waaaay lesser degree).
I extremely doubt Sakurai will ever give a previously playable character a demoted role, he is very well aware of the big backlash it would cause. He had the opportunity before and he never did; even when it was perfectly logical to make Dr. Mario an alt costume in Smash 4, Sakurai still went and made him a clone like he was in Melee explicitly because Sakurai didn't want to disappoint fans of his Melee appearance.

When a new Smash gets a new director who knows how they will operate, it could maybe be possible then, but I think they would take significant influence from Sakurai and would still avoid doing that.
 
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Almost every fanbase has obnoxious fans; some are just more notable than others.
---Somewhat related---
Fan backlash has been a thing for decades. Arthur Conan Doyle brought Sherlock Holmes back to life because of fan backlash.
Oh, I'm aware.

But we're bound to get BotW/OoT 2, Melee 2, and Star Fox 128 with the fan's say so.
 

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So here's a forum game to throw around:
What are your top five favorite franchises included in Smash Bros.?
  1. :ultvillager: I can't get enough of Pocket Camp. I also enjoyed New Leaf and Happy Home Designer.
  2. :ultlink: ALTTP, OOT, MM, TWW, TP, and BOTW are some of my favorite games.
  3. :ultmario: Main games and Mario Kart games and Mario RPG games is the ****. I also like Mario Tennis 64 and Mario Power Tennis.
  4. :ultsimon: I still play Castlevania games on Wii Virtual Console (and WiiWare) and Wii U Virtual Console once in a while.
  5. :ultryu: I still play Street Fighter II Turbo (SNES Classic Edition) and Super Street Fighter II (Wii Virtual Console) once in a while.
 
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Top 5 franchises:

1. :ultbayonetta:
2. :ultinkling:
3.:ultshulk:
4. :ultpalutena:
5. :ultrichter:
 

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All Mario + Rabbids does is show how awesome the Rabbids are. It really doesn't help Rayman, but I could see a combination of Rayman and Rabbids among playable/AT/trophies.

I think we will see both in some way. Not one or the other. They're both iconic, highly popular, and unique in their own rights.
Maybe it's me being a bias Rayman fan, but considering Sakurai is taking a look at the Ballot for character suggestions such as K. Rool, I don't think it's far out there to think he would choose Rayman since he's still pretty popular.
The Rabbids are popular now, but if you took your mind back to 2015 to the Ballot era, that wasn't the case.
Of course, I'm open to the possibility of Rabbids getting in. I don't have a problem with them. I mainly used Mario + Rabbids as an example of how close partners Nintendo and Ubisoft really are. If Ultimate's newcomers were following Smash 4's philosophy of adding in relevant characters, then I could see the Rabbids being more likely than Rayman.
We'll just have to wait and see. :)
 

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Favorite series in Smash?

1. :ultlink:
2. :ultpikachu:
3. :ultmario:
4. :ultcloud:
5. :ultdk:/:ultwario:

What can I say? I'm basic. Both Mother and Xenoblade would have a good chance of placing, but I've yet to actually play any of those games. Same with Animal Crossing actually. And possibly Fire Emblem.

Wait I guess technically I have if you count the mobile games for FE and AC. But uh yeah I'm not gonna count those.

Edit - :ultwario: refers specifically to Warioland, though WarioWare is fun too. Also :ultsonic: gets an honorable mention.
 
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1. :ultdk:
2. :ultpikachu:
3. :4shulk:
4. :ultdarksamus:
5. :ultsonic:

Something like this for my top 5, although I’m really tempted to put Kirby and Mario in also.
 

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Well apparently some people found something strange about the Karate Joe "files". Apparently in the blog file orders, 133 is the last known one which is Alolan Exegutor. But for some reason 134 is the memory of Karate Joe's game while 135 is the newcomer post itself, when it should be the other way around.
 

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So here's a forum game to throw around:
What are your top five favorite franchises included in Smash Bros.?
For me personally:
EDIT: Some of you guys are going in depth, so I might as well too.
1. :ultpokemontrainer:- First game series I've ever picked up, and I fell in love with it ever since. I still remember all the hours I spent in Viridian Forest trying to get a Pikachu after shortly leaving Pallet Town with Charmander. I have such an attachment to games like FireRed, SoulSilver, and the Unova games foe a variety of reasons as they all had an impact on me at different stages in my life. It's an amazing series, I know practically every game in the series like the back of my hand, and despite me not being happy with a lot of decisions in modern games, it still holds a very high place in my heart.
2. :ultmario: - There's honestly not much I can say about these games that no one else hasn't spoken upon. He is the definition of Nintendo for me, so outside of that I'll just move on as everything has been spoken upon for him.
3. :ultlink: - Like many people, OoT was my very first Zelda game. It left me awed at the world and all the unique characters to be found. I found myself always wanting to come and explore the next iteration and incarnation of the Hero. This one that is heavily nostalgia based, sure, but I still contest that some of the games in the series are my favorites of all time. And they have the strength to back it up.
4. :ultlucina: - Again, my first FE was many other people's, Awakening. I originally picked it up because it reminded me of one of my favorite tactical RPGs, Final Fantasy Tactics. However, I was pulled in through the sheer amount of personality and stakes that the series brings to the table. Alongside the introduction of the Outrealms and finding that this series had more to it than Ike and Marth, made me decide to take a deep dive into it. I found myself enjoying the earlier entries of the games and lost myself in the different continents and stories they had to offer.
5. :ultsamus: - One of the series that I found through Smash Bros. itself, hell I used to think Samus was a robot until I saw her again in Brawl. After I practically got a 100% in that game, I read through all the Metroid trophies to discover more info and realized I needed to play these games.
My first game was Zero Mission and it felt completely unlike any other game I've played before and began to adore it. I slowly became a fan of the entire series after that.

Honorable mentions go to: :ultsnake::ultryu::ultpit:

Jeez, that looks awful. Like I get someone put effort into this, but it's definitely not that easy to pull off.
Also, I could've sworn you hated us discussing "obvious fake leaks", so why do you bring this one up?
  1. :ultshulk:
  2. :ultpichu:
  3. :ultsonic:
  4. :ultmario:
  5. :ultyounglink:
Something like that.
 

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Call me boring, but my top 5 franchises are
1. :ultyounglink:
2. :ultmario:
3. :ultkirby:
4. :ultsamus:
5. :ultpikachu:

Xenoblade is close to overtaking Pokemon. This isn't counting Smash itself of course
 
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