Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[SuperSmashStephen]

Bomberman. He just made his big comeback on a switch exclusive and he surely has the icon status to be up there with the other third parties and the ballot winner.

Although Konami......

Who knows? Maybe we’ll see him in the next Smash Bros. I’ve never understood his appeal personally, but thank you for sharing!

 

[Megadoomer]

Hopefully all 3rd Parties will return along with some new ones as well.

This is a question for everyone. Which 3rd Party would you choose? Pick 1-3 choices. The only rule is they can’t be from an existing 3rd Party Franchise. Bonus question: Can you explain why, and whether or not you think they are possible?

Rayman, Travis Touchdown, and Doomguy.

Rayman: I feel like characters from 2D platformers mesh really well with Smash Bros' gameplay, and Rayman getting a trophy in Smash 4 seems to help. Given the success of Mario + Rabbids on top of that, he seems pretty likely.

Travis Touchdown: Suda 51 has been really persistent about wanting Travis in Smash, asking about it for years, and the No More Heroes games have a strong association with Nintendo consoles. As well, between pro wrestling moves, bashing people over the head with a fluorescent light bulb, and turning into a tiger, it seems like he has a lot of material for a creative and fun moveset. However, he isn't well known, and his games tend to be bloody (which can be worked around) and filled with innuendo, sexuality, etc., so unless he did surprisingly well in the Smash Ballot, he doesn't seem likely.

Doomguy: aside from Bethesda's recent closeness with Nintendo, many of the third party characters tend to come from the pinnacle of their respective genres - arcade games, fighting games, RPGs, beat em ups, and platformers. (Okay, so Nintendo easily has the best known example of that last one, but Sonic and Mega Man are both quite prominent series for platforming games) Doomguy is one of the first examples of an FPS protagonist, and he's probably the best one that they can legally use (so no Master Chief) who would be interesting to play as (so no Call of Duty protagonists). There's also Wolfenstein, but that seems like it would automatically come with Nazi imagery, so that's a big no. The main problems seem to be the sheer violence in Doom, as well as first person shooters not being overly popular in Japan.

Of the three, I feel like Rayman is easily the most likely. The other two could happen, but I have a lot of doubts.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Rayman, Travis Touchdown, and Doomguy.

Rayman: I feel like characters from 2D platformers mesh really well with Smash Bros' gameplay, and Rayman getting a trophy in Smash 4 seems to help. Given the success of Mario + Rabbids on top of that, he seems pretty likely.

Travis Touchdown: Suda 51 has been really persistent about wanting Travis in Smash, asking about it for years, and the No More Heroes games have a strong association with Nintendo consoles. As well, between pro wrestling moves, bashing people over the head with a fluorescent light bulb, and turning into a tiger, it seems like he has a lot of material for a creative and fun moveset. However, he isn't well known, and his games tend to be bloody (which can be worked around) and filled with innuendo, sexuality, etc., so unless he did surprisingly well in the Smash Ballot, he doesn't seem likely.

Doomguy: aside from Bethesda's recent closeness with Nintendo, many of the third party characters tend to come from the pinnacle of their respective genres - arcade games, fighting games, RPGs, beat em ups, and platformers. (Okay, so Nintendo easily has the best known example of that last one, but Sonic and Mega Man are both quite prominent series for platforming games) Doomguy is one of the first examples of an FPS protagonist, and he's probably the best one that they can legally use (so no Master Chief) who would be interesting to play as (so no Call of Duty protagonists). The main problems seem to be the sheer violence in Doom, as well as first person shooters not being overly popular in Japan.

Of the three, I feel like Rayman is easily the most likely. The other two could happen, but I have a lot of doubts.

For me, Rayman is a possibility, but I don’t know if he’s ready for Smash. I’m being bias though. I don’t particularly care for his design. However, I definitely see there is potential for a moveset, and he is popular. I once felt the same way about PAC-Man’s inclusion, but now, I hope he makes it back.

For Travis, he’d certainly be interesting. I have never played his games, but I’ve watched walkthroughs. I think his design, and there is so much potential for his moveset. His lack of popularity is his only downfall. However, Suda51 and Sakurai are close apparently so maybe we’ll see him added as a favor. The same lines along Snake’s inclusion.

I have no idea who Doomguy is so I can not comment.

Thank you for sharing!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Snake
Banjo - Kazooie
Rayman

Snake is a veteran, highly popular and requested a ton since his absence. I want him back cause of his unique gameplay. But I want him nerfed and his weight adjusted to a mid-heavy character. Also fix U tilt.

Banjo is a character deeply tied with the N64 era of Nintendo and a former close relationship with Rare. Could mean a restore in their relationship and a means of Rare to finally make some handheld titles for Nintendo even? Plus I really like them. And it would be a first XBox mascot.

Rayman is closely tied with Nintendo. And had a trophy. I kind off anticipate him getting in by this alone.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Snake
Banjo - Kazooie
Rayman

Snake is a veteran, highly popular and requested a ton since his absence. I want him back cause of his unique gameplay. But I want him nerfed and his weight adjusted to a mid-heavy character. Also fix U tilt.

Banjo is a character deeply tied with the N64 era of Nintendo and a former close relationship with Rare. Could mean a restore in their relationship and a means of Rare to finally make some handheld titles for Nintendo even? Plus I really like them. And it would be a first XBox mascot.

Rayman is closely tied with Nintendo. And had a trophy. I kind off anticipate him getting in by this alone.

Yes, Snake is very popular, and he is sorely missed. His moveset was unique, and that’s always nice to have. Unfortunately, I think it would be unlikely for him to return. I don’t so much mind his absence, but I know a lot of people want him back.

I remember playing Banjo Kazooie when I was little. I loved it. It was so wacky. I don’t know if I’d say they are Smash worthy, but I’d welcome their inclusion.

Thank you for sharing!

 

[Megadoomer]

I have no idea who Doomguy is so I can not comment.

Thanks for your responses! For reference, Doomguy is the main character of Doom, which (along with Skyrim, another Bethesda game) just came out on Switch last month. Admittedly, if I knew that Snake was an option, I would have went with him over Doomguy or Travis.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Thanks for your responses! For reference, Doomguy is the main character of Doom, which (along with Skyrim, another Bethesda game) just came out on Switch last month. Admittedly, if I knew that Snake was an option, I would have went with him over Doomguy or Travis.

Thank you for providing a reference! Even from just skimming through I can see he’d be able to have a unique moveset. I know Doom is popular and nostalgic. My only qualm with him is that the game seems very mature. Even more mature than Bayonetta, but who knows! Maybe we’ll see him in the next Smash. Though I believe if Bethesda were to get a rep it would be from Skyrim.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

Many of you were talking about whether or not you want a port of Smash 4 on the switch as the next game or a straight up smash 5. I've been giving it a lot of thought recently and I've decided I'd prefer a port over Smash 5 for a couple of reasons, the most obvious being the seemingly impossibility of Smash 5 having a stronger roster than Smash 4. Here are a couple of things I would do to make the port the best possible version of Smash 4 there could be:

First things first, I don't think we need a major overhaul of new characters added to a Switch port. I believe two Veterans in Wolf and The Ice Climbers would be sufficient and one Newcomer in the Inkling does the job well enough. Additionally, Snake would be a well received veteran to come back but for obvious legal reasons we've always seen his return as unlikely. The other veterans all have like 2 fans ( No offense to anyone who is a fan of Squirtle, Ivysaur, PT, Pichu, or Young Link ). Inkling is the obvious newcomer choice for being the main character in what has been one of the most successful Nintendo IPs right out of the gate and that's coming from someone who has never owned or played either of the Splatoon games ( Yeah I know, I'll get there one day ). Seriously, Splatoon is the fourth best selling game on the Switch right now just behind the juggernauts of Odyssey, Zelda, and Mario Kart. This is also why I don't see the point of having an ARMS character in a Smash 4 port, the game is not popular enough and has not gained an immediate fan following to merit a new character in Smash right away. No new third parties are necessary in a port either in my opinion ( Unless somehow Snake returned ) due to there already being many of them in Smash 4.

So there wouldn't be a huge focus on new characters, but instead a focus on new modes or combining content from the Wii U and 3DS version, etc. Smash Run can be brought over from the 3DS version, maybe be updated with a few enemies, allow for players to interact with each other during the power up gaining part of the mode, and online play should be added to Smash Run. Adding the Adventure mode from Melee or something similar to it back into the game would be a much welcomed addition as Smash 4 really has no equivalent to that or the Subspace Emissary. Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing return would be Break the Targets and maybe each fighter can have their own unique stage just like in the melee days. Maybe also add a couple new stages such as an Ice Climbers and Splatoon Stage and bring some of the stages from the 3DS version into the port ( Magicant, Paper Mario, and The Pokemon Stages stick out in my mind ) All of the trophies and extra content like that from the 3DS and Wii U versions should also be brought together.

All of this in my opinion makes for the perfect Smash 4 port, but of course this is just my opinion, I'd be curious to see whether you guys want Smash 5 or a port of Smash 4 on the switch ( Even if the port happens, Smash 5 can still come to the Switch later of course ) and if you want the port what you think should be done to Smash 4 to make it better.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Many of you were talking about whether or not you want a port of Smash 4 on the switch as the next game or a straight up smash 5. I've been giving it a lot of thought recently and I've decided I'd prefer a port over Smash 5 for a couple of reasons, the most obvious being the seemingly impossibility of Smash 5 having a stronger roster than Smash 4. Here are a couple of things I would do to make the port the best possible version of Smash 4 there could be:

First things first, I don't think we need a major overhaul of new characters added to a Switch port. I believe two Veterans in Wolf and The Ice Climbers would be sufficient and one Newcomer in the Inkling does the job well enough. Additionally, Snake would be a well received veteran to come back but for obvious legal reasons we've always seen his return as unlikely. The other veterans all have like 2 fans ( No offense to anyone who is a fan of Squirtle, Ivysaur, PT, Pichu, or Young Link ). Inkling is the obvious newcomer choice for being the main character in what has been one of the most successful Nintendo IPs right out of the gate and that's coming from someone who has never owned or played either of the Splatoon games ( Yeah I know, I'll get there one day ). Seriously, Splatoon is the fourth best selling game on the Switch right now just behind the juggernauts of Odyssey, Zelda, and Mario Kart. This is also why I don't see the point of having an ARMS character in a Smash 4 port, the game is not popular enough and has not gained an immediate fan following to merit a new character in Smash right away. No new third parties are necessary in a port either in my opinion ( Unless somehow Snake returned ) due to there already being many of them in Smash 4.

So there wouldn't be a huge focus on new characters, but instead a focus on new modes or combining content from the Wii U and 3DS version, etc. Smash Run can be brought over from the 3DS version, maybe be updated with a few enemies, allow for players to interact with each other during the power up gaining part of the mode, and online play should be added to Smash Run. Adding the Adventure mode from Melee or something similar to it back into the game would be a much welcomed addition as Smash 4 really has no equivalent to that or the Subspace Emissary. Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing return would be Break the Targets and maybe each fighter can have their own unique stage just like in the melee days. Maybe also add a couple new stages such as an Ice Climbers and Splatoon Stage and bring some of the stages from the 3DS version into the port ( Magicant, Paper Mario, and The Pokemon Stages stick out in my mind ) All of the trophies and extra content like that from the 3DS and Wii U versions should also be brought together.

All of this in my opinion makes for the perfect Smash 4 port, but of course this is just my opinion, I'd be curious to see whether you guys want Smash 5 or a port of Smash 4 on the switch ( Even if the port happens, Smash 5 can still come to the Switch later of course ) and if you want the port what you think should be done to Smash 4 to make it better.

This is so hard to answer.

On one hand, a port would make a lot of sense. Smash 4 had an incredible roster filled with great retro picks, fabulous additions to already existing franchises, and some of the most well known faces in the gaming industry in the presence of 3rd parties.

Cuts of any kind, especially the 3rd parties, would be heartbreaking to many fans. Even they clone characters have their fans.

If we get a port, it would nice to have a guarantee of everyone returning. I feel a port would make a lot of people happy. However, on the flip side of that coin is the disgruntled fans who would’ve rather seen a Smash V, a standalone Smash for the Switch instead of a port from a failed console.

I feel a port should be combination of both Wii U and 3DS. Especially Smash Run. Give it online multiplayer, and people would go nuts. I see 3-5 new characters being added just to keep it fresh. 3 being more likely. Ice Climbers, Inkling, SpringMan/RibbonGirl, Decidueye, and Wolf. In that order. It’d be better to have unique newcomers rather than mostly veterans. I only put Ice Climbers first because they should have never been cut in the first, and the Smash community has put a large outcry for them. They were unique, and well loved, and sorely missed.

Now for a Smash V. It would be incredible for the Switch to have its own Smash game. New stages. New modes. New characters. Just new. It’s what I’d prefer, but that game is a few years away, and I think it’s safe to say we all want a Smash game for the Switch sooner rather than later. At the earliest, I see it coming in late 2019, butmore likely 2020. 3 years into the Switch’s life. Most Nintendo home consoles only have a lifespan of 5 years. With the Switch being a hybrid home and handheld console, it may last longer, but only time will tell.

Now for the sad parts. Cuts. Every Smash game brings cuts. A sad, but inevitable truth. Cuts seem to come in fives. Melee to Brawl we lost Pichu, Mewtwo, Young Link, Roy, and Dr. Mario. From Brawl to WiiU/3DS we lost Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, Squirtle, and Ivysaur. If the trend continues, I could see Lucina, Dark Pit, Dr. Mario, Ryu, and Cloud getting the chop. Luckily, with DLC, they could make a return. I believe all of the following characters are on the chopping block: Lucina, Dark Pit, Dr. Mario, Roy, Pac-Man, Cloud, Ryu, Mii Fighters. Lucina, Dark Pit, Dr. Mario, and Roy for them being clones. (Although Roy and Dr. Mario are further from being clones than Lucina or Dark Pit.), and Roy’s fan base may save him. Ryu and Cloud, for their 3rd Party status and just overall uncertainty in returning. Which I’d hate. Having Ryu and Cloud in Smash is surreal. It’s amazing, and they were both so well received and popular that I hope they return. The Mii Fighters were not well received, so far as I can see. It was neat being able to have “anyone” in Smash, but I don’t know. Something about them makes me think they could be cut, though I think it’s unlikely. It is still possible. I’d predict 18-22 newcomers DLC included. There isn’t really anyone else that I feel needs a spot in Smash. I don’t see characters like Daisy, Waluigi, and a whole slew of other pointless, unworthy, fillers to muddy up the roster when plenty of other characters exist that are more deserving, unique, and would bring newness and freshness to the roster. I don’t like the roster will go over 80-85 spots. It just becomes too much at some point.

To answer your question though. I’d be fine with either, but I’d prefer a Smash V at this point. Only slightly though. A port needs to be announced soon if we are getting one because I feel the window is closing, and I would hate to get a port of an already existing game, and then have to wait another 6-7 years for an entirely new Smash.

 

[NintenRob]

I made this topic (which was immediately closed) detailing what's new and what every franchise potentially offers, I don't want it to go completely to waste since it took me ages to type up so I'll share it here

https://smashboards.com/threads/a-breakdown-of-nintendo-since-smash-wii-u-whats-new.452153/

 

[Nonno Umby]

Hopefully all 3rd Parties will return along with some new ones as well.

This is a question for everyone. Which 3rd Party would you choose? Pick 1-3 choices. The only rule is they can’t be from an existing 3rd Party Franchise. Bonus question: Can you explain why, and whether or not you think they are possible?

I would bring back my boy Solid Snake, and then add Bomberman and Simon Belmont. I think these three are the biggest omission as for now in the 3rd party category.
And I want to believe that Konami would be happy to collaborate (especially after Super Bomberman R).

 

[TimonBoyd]

I hope they have a stronger Wi-Fi connection where I can randomly fight worldwide in different countries without friendcodes.

Just random sprawling against players in another country.

 

[NintenRob]

Yeah, I actually prefer playing offline against bots than against real people online. Especially I prefer 4 player items on any stage.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

I would bring back my boy Solid Snake, and then add Bomberman and Simon Belmont. I think these three are the biggest omission as for now in the 3rd party category.
And I want to believe that Konami would be happy to collaborate (especially after Super Bomberman R).

I’d be nice if Snake came back for the fans. I understand Bomberman’s popularity, but I don’t know how they’d base a moveset solely off bombs. If anyone could do it though, I guess it’d be Sakurai.

As for Simon Belmont, I couldn’t care less either way. Yay if he gets in, but I won’t be upset if he didn’t. It’d be interesting though for sure.

Thank you for sharing!

 

[Wolfie557]

Hopefully all 3rd Parties will return along with some new ones as well.

This is a question for everyone. Which 3rd Party would you choose? Pick 1-3 choices. The only rule is they can’t be from an existing 3rd Party Franchise. Bonus question: Can you explain why, and whether or not you think they are possible?

Rayman and Lara Croft are my wanted ones. As for 3rd there's plenty of great choices too but I think ATM anyway I'd pick either Dragon Quest Hero or Simon Belmont

Every character is possible with enough time and effort. There is no doubt about that.

It's just people tend to not look past the surface.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Rayman and Lara Croft are my wanted ones. As for 3rd there's plenty of great choices too but I think ATM anyway I'd pick either Dragon Quest Hero or Simon Belmont

Every character is possible with enough time and effort. There is no doubt about that.

It's just people tend to not look past the surface.

I’ve previous stated my opinion of Rayman. Not particularly a fan of him, but can see why people would want him.

Lara Croft would be pretty cool. Tomb Raider is definitely nostalgic for many people. The moveset is there. I picture her as a cross between Link and Snake, or Sheik and Snake.

The Dragon Quest Hero to me seems to be the most plausible. Dragon Quest is huge in Japan, and has it’s market in the West as well, just not as big. There’s huge moveset potential. Being another Square character though, he may be hard to obtain.
He is one of my picks too.

Thank you for sharing!

 

[IronTed]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

Just buff Dedede's, Puff's and Rosalina's (she may be top tier, but her Final Smash is the worst in the game) and I'll be a happy person.

 

[Luminario]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

I can see a small visual change to Link's where he uses Stasis to hold opponents in place, Sheik could get a new BotW inspired one too, Villager could also get a less blasé one, and Jiggs should get a new one inspired by a Z Move cause hers is absolutely terrible.

 

[Schnee117]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

Shulk's should replace Riki with Reyn and have Shulk yell Monado Buster when he does the final attack because they need to correct the Monado art names.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

Most of my changes would be from the Pokémon Series

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

Greninja transforming into Ash-Greninja.
Pikachu doing the Ash Cap Pikachu Z-Move. (Can’t recall the name right now.)
Jigglypuff and Peach need to Switch Final Smash’s, and Peach needs an entirely new one.
I’d love for Luigi to get a Luiginary Final Smash.
Give Falco an Arwing Final Smash since he prefers the air.
There’s more I could think of, but I’m at work right now.

 

[Deleted member]

Jigglypuff and Peach need to Switch Final Smash’s

Let the inflation fetish art begin. :V

 

[Luminario]

Does Peach really need a new Final Smash though? Ever since it gained the ability to make people fall asleep in the air it's been consistently useful for me. Plus it's adorable and I love the dance.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

To start off, maybe have Greninja change into Ash-Greninja. It would be faster, deal additional damage, and have infinite super armor, but it would still take damage, and be affected by size changing items.

I would mention one other character, but I have to keep my mouth shut.

 

[Nonno Umby]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

I would assume that Dr. Mario gets another one, especially if they want to declone him a bit more (which is likely). Maybe turning the stage into a pot where he can throw his giant pills? That would be quite unique.

Also they should give Dedede his old Final Smash, the new one is boring and doesn't reference anything as far as I know.

Greninja should turn into Ash's Greninja.

R.O.B. should get something that is actually useful.

And...

*deep breath*

FALCO SHOULD GET AN ARWING! WHY HE IS STILL ON A LANDMASTER!?!?!

*end rant*

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Let the inflation fetish art begin. :V

Oh God, I worded that so wrong. Peach should get a new Final Smash! Not Jigglypuff’s! And Jigglypuff should get Peach’s Final Smash. Call it Center Stage or something. Maybe throw in a nod to the Contest mini game.

Does Peach really need a new Final Smash though? Ever since it gained the ability to make people fall asleep in the air it's been consistently useful for me. Plus it's adorable and I love the dance.

She doesn’t need a new one persay, but I think she could do something better. I’m glad it works for you though!

To start off, maybe have Greninja change into Ash-Greninja. It would be faster, deal additional damage, and have infinite super armor, but it would still take damage, and be affected by size changing items.

I would mention one other character, but I have to keep my mouth shut.

Don’t limit yourself. Who is the other Final Smash you would change?

I would assume that Dr. Mario gets another one, especially if they want to declone him a bit more (which is likely). Maybe turning the stage into a pot where he can throw his giant pills? That would be quite unique.

Also they should give Dedede his old Final Smash, the new one is boring and doesn't reference anything as far as I know.

Greninja should turn into Ash's Greninja.

R.O.B. should get something that is actually useful.

And...

*deep breath*

FALCO SHOULD GET AN ARWING! WHY HE IS STILL ON A LANDMASTER!?!?!

*end rant*

Yes to Dr. Mario, and YES to Falco.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Don’t limit yourself. Who is the other Final Smash you would change?

I can't say anything here, because some users have become very tired of me bringing up a certain character in a conversation. I'd suggest that you send me a PM if you really want to know.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

I can't say anything here, because some users have become very tired of me bringing up a certain character in a conversation. I'd suggest that you send me a PM if you really want to know.

Will do! Sending it now!

Edit: Csn you send me one? I can’t figure it out.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Will do! Sending it now!

Edit: Csn you send me one? I can’t figure it out.

There should be an option called Start a New Conversation. Conversations are basically private messages.

 

[Deleted member]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

Well, with the exception of , I'd generally want Final Smashes to be buffed back to Brawl levels where they made KOs easier. But here are a few more changes:

• In the case of , maybe bring back the Waddle Dee Army while still having Dedede Burst. Which one comes out is based on distance from your opponents similar to . Dedede Burst comes out in close range; longer range has Waddle Dee Army come out.
• I'm only going to say this once and leave it alone: buff Giga Bowser such that the knockback on his moves are similar to his Melee self when one meets him in adventure mode on very hard difficulty. That's all I think he needs. Duration time and damage on attacks I won't touch.
• Make 's Final Smash more like 's, where she and Jeanne team up for a vicious assault. I am a sentimentalist, thinking about the youth. While I can handle seeing Gomorrah I'd rather have the younger audience see another clone of Pair Up.
• Maybe make Konga Beat a bit stronger in which three consecutive well-played beats creates a very powerful sound wave covering all of Final Destination.
• 's Final Edge I would rework to be the same as 's.
• Mega Charizard X - the fireballs and Dragon Rush should be just a bit stronger. Here's a fun fact: in Melee if one touches just before disappearing he did 24% damage with extreme knockback. I ought to know: I was and nearly got Star KO'd at about 50% this way on Fountain of Dreams, but enough of my anecdotes. Instead of buffing the attacks, I would alternatively make it such that colliding with enemies does that level of knockback/damage.

To start off, maybe have Greninja change into Ash-Greninja. It would be faster, deal additional damage, and have infinite super armor, but it would still take damage, and be affected by size changing items.

I would mention one other character, but I have to keep my mouth shut.

I know who you were alluding to, and I know how you feel about it. That's no reason for the others to subjugate you. Look, I am a shy 56-year-old woman who can be assertive when the situation deems it necessary. Which is why I'm bringing him up on my own behalf and just leave what I say at that.

Sayonara

 

[dezeray112]

Hopefully all 3rd Parties will return along with some new ones as well.

This is a question for everyone. Which 3rd Party would you choose? Pick 1-3 choices. The only rule is they can’t be from an existing 3rd Party Franchise. Bonus question: Can you explain why, and whether or not you think they are possible?

Same on the bolded. I actually quite liked the guest characters in the Wii U/3DS versions.

As for which three guest characters I would like to see, my choices would be:

1. A Tekken character - If I had read correctly, wasn't there a Tekken character (I think it was Heihachi Mishima) being considered for Smash Wii U/3DS but decided to cut him due to the difficulty of implementing his moveset for the game? If there was a Tekken character I could choose, my choice would be Jin Kazama.

2. A Monster Hunter character.

3. A Tales character - Preferably Lloyd Irving or Yuri Lowell.

I do have plenty of other guest characters I would like to see. But either way, it will be interesting to see which third party guest characters will make it in.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I can see a small visual change to Link's where he uses Stasis to hold opponents in place, Sheik could get a new BotW inspired one too, Villager could also get a less blasé one, and Jiggs should get a new one inspired by a Z Move cause hers is absolutely terrible.

No Stasis is needed for Impa's Down B.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Same on the bolded. I actually quite liked the guest characters in the Wii U/3DS versions.

As for which three guest characters I would like to see, my choices would be:

1. A Tekken character - If I had read correctly, wasn't there a Tekken character (I think it was Heihachi Mishima) being considered for Smash Wii U/3DS but decided to cut him due to the difficulty of implementing his moveset for the game? If there was a Tekken character I could choose, my choice would be Jin Kazama.

2. A Monster Hunter character.

3. A Tales character - Preferably Lloyd Irving or Yuri Lowell.

I do have plenty of other guest characters I would like to see. But either way, it will be interesting to see which third party guest characters will make it in.

I’d love Jin so long as his Final Smash is Devil Jin.

Monster Hunter is one of my choices as well. That franchise is so popular in Japan, and there are endless possibilities for a moveset.

As for a Tales character, I have never played one, but I have a friend who would go bonkers with excitement.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Okay since we like to list things.

Name 3 potential newcomers from franchises that have made up the roster of the original N64 Smash Bros. :

Super Mario Bros.
Donkey Kong Country
The Legend of Zelda
Kirby
Pokemon
Metroid
StarFox
Yoshi's Island
MOTHER
F-Zero

Also, they must have a fighting chance of being included.

 

[Freduardo]

Random question, assuming the Smash we get is not a port, what changes to final smashes, if any, would you expect?

Hmmm... Falco would get an arwing
Sheik would get whatever her flashiest Hyrule Warriors move is.
Bowser Jr. would keep Shadow Mario, but the Koopa Lings would do essentially the same thing, they just would use their scepters instead of the paintbrush and not transform to shadow Mario.

Hopefully all 3rd Parties will return along with some new ones as well.

This is a question for everyone. Which 3rd Party would you choose? Pick 1-3 choices. The only rule is they can’t be from an existing 3rd Party Franchise. Bonus question: Can you explain why, and whether or not you think they are possible?

1) Commander Video - I love Runner. He has a trophy. He’s going Nintendo exclusive. And honestly represents a genre that Nintendo enjoys enough they made a mario version, and actually has plenty of moveset potential.

2) Bomberman - I don’t need to explain this one.

3) Bonk - look at my icon. This should surprise no one.

Now I’m going to break the rules

4) Bub and Bob - from Bubble Bobble and Puzzle Bobble. Like Ice Climbers would be a two man team.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Okay since we like to list things.

Name 3 potential newcomers from franchises that have made up the roster of the original N64 Smash Bros. :

Super Mario Bros.
Donkey Kong Country
The Legend of Zelda
Kirby
Pokemon
Metroid
StarFox
Yoshi's Island
MOTHER
F-Zero

Also, they must have a fighting chance of being included.

I love lists. Lists are awesome. Okay, now!

Super Mario - Paper Mario, Captain Toad, and Geno.
Donkey Kong- Dixie Kong, King K. Rool, and DK Jr.
Legend of Zelda- Impa, Botw Champion, and Yiga Assassin
Kirby- Bandana Dee, Galacta Knight, and Yarn Kirby.
Pokémon- Decidueye, Gen VIII Pokémon, and Zerora.
Metroid- Ridley, Dark Samus, and Metroid Prime 4 Rep.
Star Fox- Wolf, Slippy, and Krystal.
Yoshi’s Island- Baby Mario/Luigi & Yoshi, Kamek, and ??? (No one else to choose from really.)
MOTHER- Paula, Poo, and Porky.
F-Zero- Samurai Goroh is the only one I can think of.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Star Fox- Wolf

Technically not a newcomer.

I'd say Leon instead

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Technically not a newcomer.

I'd say Leon instead

Leon was always my favorite villain from Star Fox.

 

[Luminario]

She doesn’t need a new one persay, but I think she could do something better. I’m glad it works for you though!

Well what did you have in mind?
I like your idea of Jiggs getting a version of Peach's, though it might be a bit OP what with her then being able to add on 40%, force sleep, then use Rest, so it might need to be toned down.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Well what did you have in mind?
I like your idea of Jiggs getting a version of Peach's, though it might be a bit OP what with her then being able to add on 40%, force sleep, then use Rest, so it might need to be toned down.

I am not sure, actually. I am going to have to retract my previous statement. Maybe Peach and Jigglypuff could share a Final Smash, but they could each have their own unique attributes. Jigglypuff could put them to sleep, while Peach made them dizzy. Peach’s could allow her to eat peaches and heal, while damaging her opponents 40%, and if she could, go in for the kill. Jiggly could have music notes, hearts, and stars that radiate out and damage enemies, and then put them to sleep. No added extra damage, but the damage dealt from the projectiles could cause enough damage to have Jiggly go in for the kill. Isn’t the point of a Final Smash to cause massive amounts of damage, and potential KO opponents?

What do you think of that idea? Peach keeps her Final Smash with one minor tweak, and Jigglypuff gets a new Final Smash that’s basically a nod to her singing, attention craving, and Pokémon Contest in general.