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I know nothing about Rex outside of whatever the legendary Etika says about him, but Pyra/Mythra seem to be more interesting fighters (and Spring Man, alongside some of the others like Ribbon Girl, better be a hard lock)
Speaking of Bayonetta quotes, that reminds me of something I wanted to bring up.https://sourcegaming.info/2016/03/02/famitsu309/
"Mr. Kamiya’s smile right here (laughs). Now, talking pre-Bayonetta and post-Bayonetta. That actually is what ended up happening. When you talk about stylish action games, Bayonetta’s the name that always comes up. But, I don’t think there’s been a game that’s surpassed Bayonetta yet, though."
Sakurai's perception on what he sees as icons for genres is certainly interesting. This Bayonetta article just blew my mind. I wish I had this article before she was confirmed as the final DLC character. This would have been a very helpful article back then, but it was translated months late.
I figured I'd drop in with my new roster prediction before E3 rolls around.
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The above list includes all characters I considered. The farthest left represents the most likely to be in the game, and the farthest right represents the least.
The characters are color coded to represent how confident I am in them.
Blue is confirmed.
Green is unsurprising.
Yellow is moderately surprising.
Red is very surprising.
Pink is extremely surprising.
Roster A assumes that the recent leak about Simon, Ridley, and Ice Climbers is false.![]()
Base Roster Total: 73
DLC Roster Total: 78
Unique Newcomers: 12
Base Third Party Newcomers: 2
Overall Third Party Newcomers: 3
Clone Newcomers: 1
Returning Cut Characters: 2
Total Cuts: 0
Captain Toad: The newcomer I am most confident in, Captain Toad has appeared in every mainline Mario title since Super Mario Galaxy, and has now gotten his own spinoff game for Wii U, 3DS, and Switch. The character would be the first small-bodied heavy-weight and would rely on a good ground game and projectiles, but would have a lackluster recovery.
Dixie and Cranky Kong: This may be the most bold of my additions, but it can be substituted for the safer choice of solo Dixie Kong if that's preferred. However, I am going to make the prediction that Sakurai will take note of the demand for Dixie Kong and decide to add her with the mechanic he considered for Diddy and Dixie in Brawl. I am assuming that this mechanic is similar to the Ice Climbers, but with the two characters using joint attacks, reminiscent of the Ice Climbers' up special. For example, Dixie would hold Cranky for their up special as she twirls her hair, and Cranky would flail around, hitting opponents beneath them. The two characters would act as a single fighter with a shared percentage bar, but they could feasibly have a mechanic where one can be KO'd while the other lives on, but without the ability to do certain attacks. This would represent the team-up mechanics of the Donkey Kong series, and would offer a unique experience to players.
Sheriff: The oldest video game character of Nintendo, Sheriff would be the embodiment of Nintendo's early arcade roots. Having his trusty pistol, his horse, his rope, and other Western gear to battle, Sheriff would be a character that attacks from a distance. His gimmick would be his ability to angle his entire kit in eight directions, similarly to Fox and Falco's up-special. This hearkens back to his home game, which allow him to move and aim in eight directions simultaneously. Sheriff fulfills the historical/legacy character quota that Sakurai seems to have (Mr. Game and Watch, R.O.B., Duck Hunt) and brings the first character of Shigeru Miyamoto into the esteemed world of Smash Bros. to duel with his descendants.
Ice Climbers: The Ice Climbers return as they were in previous games. I believe that they are the single most likely fighter to make it in who we haven't had explicitly confirmed.
Takamaru: After being considered since Melee, Takamaru finally reveals himself to the Smash Bros. crew, bringing all his abilities with him: Iaijutsu techniques with his katana, various types of shuriken, fireballs, a cloak of invisibility, and more. His play-style is extremely offensive, doing damage from a distance and killing up-close. He is also a master at deflecting physical projectiles with his sword, making him the ultimate projectile counter. His downfall is his mediocre recovery, poor grab-game, light weight, and difficulty killing from a distance, but he more than makes up for these with his speed, damage output, and powerful sword draws.
Ridley: While I fully acknowledge the risk of predicting Ridley, I suspect that Sakurai took note of the outcry when he was not playable yet again, and came back to revisit the idea of making him playable. While it's not a guarantee by any means, I hope that Sakurai has decided he can make Ridley work as a large, but light character who excels in the air despite his slowness on the ground.
Bandana Dee: Bandana Dee is a relatively simple addition to the roster, but manages to be an archetype we haven't seen - a small, lightweight spear user. Essentially a blend between Marth and Kirby, Bandana Dee attacks with stabbing motions that are most powerful at the spear's head. He excels at keeping opponents out with his disjoints, but he is extremely vulnerable up-close.
Wolf: Wolf returns essentially as he was in Brawl, but notably keeping a slow fall speed despite his above-average running speed.
Decidueye: While I'm not confident in any particular Pokemon character, I'm most convinced by this Ghost/Grass archer from Sun and Moon. A character that prefers sniping and precision shots over in-your-face attacks, Decidueye is remarkably adept at shooting projectiles from the air. He is fairly large and light, fast-falling, and slow on the ground, but his projectiles are capable of killing both up-close and from a distance. This Pokemon marks the first true archer in the Smash Bros. series.
Isabelle: The most lovable assistant you could ask for is a character I was initially hesitant on predicting. However, I've decided that Isabelle has a solid chance due to her extreme popularity among even casual fans. Isabelle acts as a terrain-modifying character - she uses furniture and public works projects to beautify her surroundings, including planting flowers that you had better not step on. Isabelle really doesn't mean to be hurting anyone, but she's a bit clumsy, dropping her supplies and not watching where she puts things. As a fighter, though, she's extremely good at forcing her opponents into situations that they aren't used to being in. Imagine Pac-Man's hydrant, but multiple large ones that can't be destroyed. She doesn't hit hard, but boy is she a great builder.
Alph: The only clone I actively expect. I imagine Alph playing similarly to Olimar, but with some key differences. Namely, Olimar is given his up special from Brawl, and Alph gets the Flying Pikmin as an up special. Further, while Olimar has Purple and White Pikmin, Alph has Flying Pikmin (who act like typical Pikmin, but go in a straight line when thrown) and Rock Pikmin (which have poor throws, but do amazing damage to shields.) Olimar's up-special needs to be improved significantly, but will not prove to be a nerf to him, as Pikmin numbers have been increased back to Brawl's.
Elma: I've mentioned several times before that I expect Elma to be added to represent the X side of the Xenoblade franchise, as Rex's game didn't come out until after the planning period for this game finished. Elma is a fierce fighter who carries dual swords and pistols. Speedy on the ground and with good air mobility, Elma's biggest weakness is taking hits, not dishing them out. She's light and has a below-average recovery, but hits hard, fast, and often. She could optionally be given an Overdrive mechanic; a meter fills up as time goes by and, when filled, can be activated to negate cooldown on Elma's moves.
Inklings: Do I really need to explain?
Bomberman: Given Konami and Nintendo's recent working relationship (Super Bomberman R) and Bomberman's modest popularity, I imagine we'll be seeing him as one of our third party representatives. That said, I'm not confident on him, as there's a lot of competition among third parties.
Rayman: Easily the most likely third party in my eyes, as Ubisoft and Nintendo have been closer than ever. Rayman being included only makes sense. He appeared last game as a trophy and has had his company working directly with Mario since then, producing several games in the Switch's first year. If he's not in, it's not due to Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship.
Spring Man + Rex: I'll group these two together, as they are DLC for similar reasons. Both are extremely popular characters from games that released after the character selection process had finished. They are prime for DLC.
Sora: While definitely a risky choice on my end, I've come to the conclusion that Sora was high on the ballot. I've talked with many, many casual friends of mine, and it's astounding how many of them voted for Sora. That said, I expect him to be DLC, as that would make negotiations easier with Disney. If he's paid DLC, then Disney simply takes a cut of the sales, which is easier to manage than figuring out a lump sum to pay for the rights to have him in the base game. That said, he's certainly not a lock, and I wouldn't be surprised to not see him.
Pokemon + Fire Emblem: I am not certain yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the new protagonist of the 2018 Fire Emblem game and a new Pokemon being added as tie-ins for the release of the games, similarly to how Corrin was chosen.
Roster B assumes that the Simon leak is real and takes an optimistic approach to how many newcomers we're getting.![]()
Funky Kong: A semi-clone with Donkey Kong as a base, Funky Kong would be an excellent choice for a late addition. I imagine Funky as a Donkey Kong that's slower on the ground and less grab-focused, but more powerful in the air and with a much better recovery.
Impa: While I could see Impa as a semi-clone, I don't expect her to be one. Rather, I imagine inspiration for her moveset being taken from both Hyrule Warriors and Breath of the Wild. Using her Naginata as a spear and either her Goron Knife or an Eightfold Longblade as a large sword, she would represent the two types of weapons in Breath of the Wild that Link does not currently use.
Snake: While I seldom put Snake on prediction rosters anymore, this is a notable exception. If Sakurai is indeed in contact with Konami for more than just a single character, which I imagine would be the case if Simon Belmont was included, then Snake could feasibly make it back due to fan demand.
Feel free to critique my roster, though please say why you have an issue with a given inclusion (/exclusion) rather than just stating what it is. Please keep in mind that my roster is simply the selection of what I think the most likely outcomes are, and that characters relatively high up on my newcomer pool in likelihood could also happen. I feel bad about excluding K. Rool, but know that there is a situation in which I can see that happening; I just don't think it's the most likely scenario to occur.
Also, the green characters are costumes, and are not really meant to be seriously critiqued. They're more ideas than anything
Interesting. I might have to seriously reconsider them foe my prediction roster. That gives the Gematsu leak much, much more credibility.
Confirmed Sakurai dislikes our lord and savior Waluigi.I think Sakurai most likely puts characters in that he really likes, so he must have really liked Bayonetta.
So... is this implying something?
This is mostly his opinion, rather than what actually went into the process of picking Bayonetta as the top ballot character. As he said, he was not involved with Sakurai himself.Speaking of Bayonetta quotes, that reminds me of something I wanted to bring up.
"What are your thoughts on Bayonetta making it into Super Smash Bros.? How involved were you in that process?
I didn’t have that discussion with Sakurai myself. I think Sakurai most likely puts characters in that he really likes, so he must have really liked Bayonetta. I was really happy to see Bayonetta in Smash. I hope she’s in future Smash games as well."
-Source
Namely this sentence here:
I think Sakurai most likely puts characters in that he really likes, so he must have really liked Bayonetta.
So... is this implying something?
It says there is no objective way of adding new characters.I think Sakurai most likely puts characters in that he really likes, so he must have really liked Bayonetta.
So... is this implying something?
Yes, Sakurai has a deep and personal hatred of Ridley after he ate his parents.So... is this implying something?
Given she was a ballot choice, it's clear Sakurai felt she was an appropriate addition to the third-party cast we have in Smash 4 otherwise she wouldn't obviously be here.https://sourcegaming.info/2016/03/02/famitsu309/
"Mr. Kamiya’s smile right here (laughs). Now, talking pre-Bayonetta and post-Bayonetta. That actually is what ended up happening. When you talk about stylish action games, Bayonetta’s the name that always comes up. But, I don’t think there’s been a game that’s surpassed Bayonetta yet, though."
Sakurai's perception on what he sees as icons for genres is certainly interesting. This Bayonetta article just blew my mind. I wish I had this article before she was confirmed as the final DLC character. This would have been a very helpful article back then, but it was translated months late.
Metroid is actually inspired in the life of Sakurai, he is an actual space bonty hunter, and everything that happens in the metroid games was something that really happened, but instead to Samus, it was Sakurai.
But Ridley is in Smash. Hmm... Maybe the actual inspiration behind Samus is Sakurai's cat.
He got to Anor Londo, died hundred of times, got salty, ragequit and got so angry that deleted Solaire from Smash.
does that means that master hand got replaced as the final boss, and now the final boss is a knight with a gigantic bow?
I heard he even bought over 3,000 Solaire amiibo just to anger his fans.
Late to this but:
1. Elma
1-Waluigi.
That only can mean one thing...
Don't you ew such a thing of beauty, whippersnapper.
ew...
He looks like he smells, not my fault sis
I wish I was as pretty as Cranky rabbid...
ew...
Smells like butterscotch and mothballs, my boy.
And who's that guy? Is he a believable leaker?
It's not that uncommon that news sites post about Smash rumors, it happened with Smash 4 too. Screenrant aren't the only ones to share it either, a lot of sites are reporting on it in the last 24 hours, including the likes of Destructoid and EventHubs. I imagine it's a case of one site making an article on it, and the rest just follow suit, seems like the logical explanation given that the leak has been out there for several days before this, and yet it's only reaching the masses now.
Unless this is a massive act of trolling, this looks like it's almost legit.
Note the use of the word "sharing", the sites posting these articles don't know anything themselves, they're just getting the exact same rumor we've know about for days out there to the masses. It doesn't add anything to the leak's chances of being legitimate, it's just a wave passing through the media, it's still solely at the mercy of Vergeben and his sources' reliability.
She's my least favorite of the rabbids honestly... But maybe that's just because of the selfie bit and I'm a hipster who hates stuff like that. :V
I dunno, I personally find her funny as hell as a parody of those selfie lunatics out there XD. But hey, my opinions are as good as yours ^^
