Smash Brawl UK Social Thread

[Calzum!]

Do you guys use X or Y to jump? (GC users)

Apart from the 5 Resident Evil Games that have been released on the GC i only ever play Melee i dont even know which one is Y and which one is X

i use the one closest to the middle, (Y?)

 

[Yeniths]

X is to the right of A, Y is above A

I use X to short hop and Y to full hop

 

[Calzum!]

X is to the right of A, Y is above A

I shouldn't even play this game without knowing that lmao

I use X to short hop and Y to full hop

Ohh yeniths you so crazy

 

[KillerJawz]

I use X to short hop and Y to full hop

I would say that's strange, but I've seen people actively use tap jump so... :/

I personally use Y to full and short hop whilst using (brawl) my left shield button set to jump to Jump OoS.

 

[Yeniths]

Yes thats true I use tap jump OOS and out of shine, for stuff like nair shine, people always comment on how unnecessary and hard it is but it works for me lol.

 

[B.Mack]

snake isnt advanced.. you just have to play smart due to him being a bag of manure.
PT is actually pretty advanced i think, due to how many bull**** factors affect gameplay and you have to actually master all 3 pokes and such bullcrap.(lol Ivysaur)

CCPro > GC. I use L1 to jump. leaving the rest of my hand free to use cstick or A or special or Z.

I actually use tapjump in melee and I can shorthop with Fox using tapjump. get @ me GP

 

[KillerJawz]

I went from GC > CC > CCPro > GC. The GC is imo, the far superior controller. With the CCPro, you cannot input 1/16th of a direction without pure inhuman precision in heated situations. You also get delay from the wiimote and whatnot.

 

[Heartstring]

snake isnt advanced.. you just have to play smart due to him being a bag of manure.
PT is actually pretty advanced i think, due to how many bull**** factors affect gameplay and you have to actually master all 3 pokes and such bullcrap.(lol Ivysaur)

CCPro > GC. I use L1 to jump. leaving the rest of my hand free to use cstick or A or special or Z.

I actually use tapjump in melee and I can shorthop with Fox using tapjump. get @ me GP

pt is advanced just because theres 3 chars to use, and you dont have a choice about whether to use just one or not due to fatigue physics, so i think we got case and point sorted

and yo kinda have to use tap jump in melee, i rembmer when i first got melee i spent an age looking for the 'controls' option in the settings XD

also, it doesnt matter if you cna shorthop and such if im better regardless XD

 

[The_Rake]

as if i didnt see this coming -__-
meta knight is obviously the hardest to be good at

Kmac?



I'm gona throw 2 names in the ring for this

Link/Tlink

They have the most AT's in the game and yea, you dont have to be that technical to win with them but doing so really helps. With them it's all about mixups too and if you've ever seen Izaw throw a boomerang undernead BF and pull you to the edge you'd agree with me

 

[Calzum!]

Ohh I missed out something

I use Y to jump, and use X to float with peach, I find it a lot easier to float cancel aerials while using X

Hardest character to master in brawl
Melée fox *trollface*
/thread

 

[Heartstring]

oh yeah, links pretty techy, but i think i stick by pokemon trainer, if youve ever watched reflex play, youll understand XD

 

[B.Mack]

Link/Tlink have a lot of ATs, but how much is the benefit of using these ATs? how difficult are they, etc. if its just stuff like "be doing an attack when the boomerang comes back so you dont do the catching animation" then those two can gtfo.
I agree with GP on PT...
and btw, I've seen a lot of Reflex matches, all he does is **** **** with squirtle, then survive with Ivy and Charizard until he gets a chance to switch back to Squirtle.
I honestly think if squirtle was his own chracter he'd be like top 5 in the game. ****ing broken ****.
Although Reflex does bring out the **** with Ivy every now and then though.
Sonic has quite a few ATs too y'know. shield/platformdrop cancelling spin dashes and what not.

 

[Heartstring]

yeah, squirtle is pretty good, i would compare him like a lightwight wario, so if he was his own char, probably about 7th, just due to weight (same weight as G&W) and oddly enough he's also ikes best matchup, go figure XD

 

[B.Mack]

Squirtle is Ike's easiest MU? I'm gonna go ahead and call absolute complete utter bull**** right there.

Jiggs must be far easier for Ike... what happened to Ganon? Mario > Squirtle? WTF.
**** you GP.

/mind=blown

 

[K.Mac]

*****es don't know about the Squirtle.


Also inb4jokes, RAKE, STOP DOWNLOADING PORN. You have a virus. >_>

 

[Yeniths]

Agree with Kmac, stop giving me emails rake, I'm not interested in how you grew your business 3 inches in a month, how you lost 6 stone in 6 months or what super cheap deals from China you have . Been getting so much of them from you recently LOL

 

[Heartstring]

Squirtle is Ike's easiest MU? I'm gonna go ahead and call absolute complete utter bull**** right there.

Jiggs must be far easier for Ike... what happened to Ganon? Mario > Squirtle? WTF.
**** you GP.

/mind=blown

mario can gimp ike mad hard, ganon is our second easiest obviously. however squirtle is easy for one particular reason...
CHAINGRAB!
we can grab-release chaingrab squirtle, its beyond easy to do (literally, just dash and grab) and when it gets to the end of the stage ike can walkoff f-air guarantee'd, and with squirtle's tiny weight it kills offstage at like, 60% fresh, no joke
youre bull**** was in the wrong place to call

 

[B.Mack]

I lol'd super-hard at super cheap deals from China.
GP I see you're currently on the thread... better be posting why Squirtle shouldnt totally and utterly **** Ike up the butt.

EDIT: just saw that... well thats cool and all. but Bowser and Ganon both have 0-deaths on Wario from a single grab that are easy as balls. why are those matchups still Wario's favour? lol.
I still think Squirtle should give Ike forced enemas.

 

[Heartstring]

I lol'd super-hard at super cheap deals from China.
GP I see you're currently on the thread... better be posting why Squirtle shouldnt totally and utterly **** Ike up the butt.

EDIT: just saw that... well thats cool and all. but Bowser and Ganon both have 0-deaths on Wario from a single grab that are easy as balls. why are those matchups still Wario's favour? lol.
I still think Squirtle should give Ike forced enemas.

cause wario is ****ing good and has all the tools to deal with it whereas squirtle doesnt
squirtle is pretty much a poor mans wario, he's lighter, has worse mobility, reaches the end of the stage which means fast,fast kills after the grab release (ganon has walkoff fair vs. squirtle too, but he has to grab him at the edge first)
also theres the minor fact that ike has many many things over squirtle. like-oh i dont know-a massive anmount of range that will smash squirtle because of his lack of disjoints (and relatively poor air speed) and that he can eruption squirtle out of his up-b
all in all, its pretty much a walk in the park for ike to have this many advantages over him

 

[B.Mack]

JIGGS is a poor man's Wario, not squirtle.

Squirtle has far faster moves than Wario does tbh and he can harrass Ike with a lot more pressure than Wario can.

Can Ganon even survive a walkoff fair? lol.

Ike has far more range than Wario and Ike has pretty much the same grab release stuff on Wario, but worse.(including an infinite). yet Wario wins that matchup. you cant say its just bcos Wario is faster than squirtle in the air bcos squirtle makes up fr air speed with the speed of his moves. get dthrown mofo.

EDIT: also, Ike's F-air is never gonna be fresh. and Squirtle is your god. worship him.

 

[Heartstring]

JIGGS is a poor man's Wario, not squirtle.

Squirtle has far faster moves than Wario does tbh and he can harrass Ike with a lot more pressure than Wario can.

Can Ganon even survive a walkoff fair? lol.

Ike has far more range than Wario and Ike has pretty much the same grab release stuff on Wario, but worse.(including an infinite). yet Wario wins that matchup. you cant say its just bcos Wario is faster than squirtle in the air bcos squirtle makes up fr air speed with the speed of his moves. get dthrown mofo.

EDIT: also, Ike's F-air is never gonna be fresh. and Squirtle is your god. worship him.

wario is better than squirtle, ike has a 2-frames window to do the infinite on him, thats pretty hard to do consistently
you have about 15 frames vs. squirtle, a lot easier, even i can do it right.
also, if i've grabbed squirtle, and grab release chaingrabbed him across the stag,e you cna guarantee that ive just pummeled the little bugger a ton, so thats a fair bit of damage, and a fresh fair

im just going to pull a kj now and tell you im right in this scenario and the arguement ends there

 

[The_Rake]

If you compare squirtle to anyone then has to be weegee, a lot of his grounded moves are like weegees like jab and utilt, his areals are similar too. He basicly is weegee with air speed

and i apologise for the spam ill try n sort it out

also who said squirtle is ikes easiest mu? cos you can gtfo, think it was millers ike i played with pt and squirtle was doing best against him. Charizaed gets destroyed though

 

[Jolteon]

I lol'd super-hard at super cheap deals from China.
GP I see you're currently on the thread... better be posting why Squirtle shouldnt totally and utterly **** Ike up the butt.

EDIT: just saw that... well thats cool and all. but Bowser and Ganon both have 0-deaths on Wario from a single grab that are easy as balls. why are those matchups still Wario's favour? lol.
I still think Squirtle should give Ike forced enemas.

Wario is good.

Squirtle?

Ike>Ganon.

 

[KillerJawz]

im just going to pull a kj now and tell you im right in this scenario and the arguement ends there

You're doing it somewhat wrong. You didn't insult him at all.

That aside, it's kind of stupid for you guys to be talking about Squirtle. Neither of you play the character, neither of you have faced the character at a top level of play either.

 

[Heartstring]

You're doing it somewhat wrong. You didn't insult him at all.

That aside, it's kind of stupid for you guys to be talking about Squirtle. Neither of you play the character, neither of you have faced the character at a top level of play either.

well yeah, i didnt feel a need to insult him

also, its just comming ike knowledge that squirtle is really easy for him to play against, just fiddle about with your playstyle and hey presto, free win

 

[KillerJawz]

well yeah, i didnt feel a need to insult him

also, its just comming ike knowledge that squirtle is really easy for him to play against, just fiddle about with your playstyle and hey presto, free win

Okay, that's say Calz or any other top player from our region picks up PT for a week or so, gets really good with him then challenges you. You're saying you'd get a free win? I, as well as many other people know that there will be nothing "free" about it.

 

[The_Rake]

well yeah, i didnt feel a need to insult him

also, its just comming ike knowledge that squirtle is really easy for him to play against, just fiddle about with your playstyle and hey presto, free win

na thats a load of rubbish man, seriously. i dont believe that for a second. squirtles too quick for ike.

 

[Heartstring]

Okay, that's say Calz or any other top player from our region picks up PT for a week or so, gets really good with him then challenges you. You're saying you'd get a free win? I, as well as many other people know that there will be nothing "free" about it.

its free if youre good, its also common knowledge im crap at actually playing XD
and squirtle is a good matchup for ike, unless its at really low percentage a grab is practically a stock

 

[B.Mack]

San would probably not 3-stock Reflex.
even if San got the chance to do that gay **** on Squirtle, and thats not accounting for platforms, etc. a squirtle wouldnt take Ike to FD. have fun getting ***** on BF and Yoshi's.

Squirtle is just as tough to grab as Wario, except that his shield and rolls arent absolute garbage. his grab is just as fast, his jab is worlds faster and his fair and bair are better than Wario's. If he was his own character, he'd be my secondary.

although I agree that Squirtle can be compared to weegee.

edit: GP next fest, MM your Ike vs Miller's PT. or Shlurpie's. or anyone who likes using garbage characters.

 

[KillerJawz]

The only person in the UK has the slightest experience of using PT is Dopl. It would be better if he faced him instead.

 

[B.Mack]

I dunno man... I bet Dopl likes Ivysaur or some ****.
off to watch some reflex videos... :D

 

[Teh-Shlurpie]

ivysaur is ****ing boss. best one of the 3. So underrepresented

 

[B.Mack]

lmfao. Ivysaur. aka The Burden.

 

[Heartstring]

people so mad, why?
and yes ivysaur is a god, and he shouldnt be hated on so much, one move guarantees about 30% even with SDI, adn 50% without. such a god

 

[B.Mack]

Bowser's fsmash fully charged is 46%. doesnt mean its a piece of cake to land.

 

[Heartstring]

Bowser's fsmash fully charged is 46%. doesnt mean its a piece of cake to land.

different entirely, you stand there like a **** for 3 seconds and then take another secod to actually do the attack, ivysaurs bullet seed is relatively fast and nair sets up well into it

 

[K.Mac]

The only reason I see Ivysaur being the 'burden' is because he has easily gimped recovery.

O_o;

But then again each of the three pokies has a weakness;

Squirtle: light as hell
Ivysaur: Recovery of the fail variety
Charizard: Slow

So ..... yeah.

/comments on PT

 

[B.Mack]

I don't like the Kmac that posts relatively knowledgeable things. Do want stupid version of Kmac.

 

[Jolteon]

What about the lovable quotes k.mac?

 

[KillerJawz]

Too many cooks spoil the broth.

Anyway, Ivysaur is bad for a multitude of reasons. However, she is simply hilarious and therefore should be treated as a higher power.