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[Deleted member]

That's pretty cool. Though he should have white eyes. That'd be an interesting redesign.

....it's not a redesign.

That's literally Melee's model uncompressed. Got it off The Cutting Room Floor.

 

[Knight Dude]

....it's not a redesign.

That's literally Melee's model uncompressed. Got it off The Cutting Room Floor.

Yeah I understand that. I figured it was the Brawl model though. But it could kind of act as a redesign, kind of.

 

[PLATINUM7]

....it's not a redesign.

That's literally Melee's model uncompressed. Got it off The Cutting Room Floor.

Celebrating a little because I know how Mr. Game&Watch achieves his 2 dimensionalness (that's a word). I'm such a nerd

 

[Sehnsucht]

Feast your eyes on something disorienting:

Mr. Game & Watch in 3D!

"He was only supposed to be a video game character. A flat man in my flat TV.

That all changed on that terrible day.

The day Mister Game & Watch stopped watching.

The day he stopped playing games."

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Really? First 360 game? I don't own one myself, but a relative had one and I played Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit and Devil May Cry 4 first.

EDIT: Double post, my bad.

Let me rephrase; I bought this game, and then my 360.

Still no regrets. I suck at the Mach Speed sections, but I still enjoy this one because it has various other gameplay that I found fun.

Unfortunately, every Sonic game(regular ones, not the Racers or side games) after it till possibly Lost World was extremely unenjoyable for me. Nothing about Unleashed besides its cutscenes was interesting.(Chip was cool, yeah. Good opening too) Werehog was unresponsive, the Day Stages were worse, being slightly slower versions of the crappy Mach Speed sections, and 360/PS3-wise, the Tails Shooting sections were horrifically hard. I can't do "Press X Not To Die" type gameplay. It was just an awful game to play. Small bits were fine, and the Hub itself was good design, at least. Of course, they got rid of "dying in the Hub doesn't make you lose a life" from 2006, which was a serious downside.

Oh, wait, I did like Sonic and the Secret Rings(somewhat) and Black Knight(quite enjoyable). Colors(Console) was as meh as Unleashed, arguably worse, and Generations(Handheld) was pretty much not fun to play at all. Colors(Handheld) and Generations(Console) may change my opinion. I haven't played anything but the Wii version of All-Stars Racing Transformed, but I did enjoy the demo, so I'd probably like those. But for the main platformers, well... 2006/Secret Rings/Black Knight was the height of gameplay for me. I am going to play the demo of Lost World(Wii), and the Handheld was somewhat fun, so I can start enjoying the Sonic series again.

 

[Knight Dude]

"He was only supposed to be a video game character. A flat man in my flat TV.

That all changed on that terrible day.

The day Mister Game & Watch stopped watching.

The day he stopped playing games."

No wait. How about this? "They took everything he cared about. He's a hard boiled cop whose got nothing left to live for. Now he's not playing games. And thing he's watching, is everyone else dying.....IN 3D!!! Game and Watch 3: Revengeance. Coming Soon!"

 

[Sehnsucht]

No wait. How about this? "They took everything he cared about. He's a hard boiled cop whose got nothing left to live for. Now he's not playing games. And thing he's watching, is everyone else dying.....IN 3D!!! Game and Watch 3: Revengeance. Coming Soon!"

I opted for creepypasta, as you can see. Horror is more my domain, as my avatar might suggest.

What a terrible sight that would be, though, eh? Seeing a 2D figure suddenly given 3D existence in your living room, birthed from an old CRT before your disbelieving eyes.

[...]

And with a mouth I could not discern from within his black void of a form, he screamed - a wail threaded with tremolos of electronic bleeps and bloops.

"KIIIIIILLL MEEEEE!" he said between shrill cries, pleading to anything and everything. "KIIIIILLLLL MEEEEEE!"

[...]

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqFvxcSrIQ

This is an interesting one for two reasons;

The main website accidentally shows it as a Wii U picture, despite this clearly being a 3DS screenshot. Mistakes happen.

But the other, and more importantly is; "Pic of the day. This dog is huge… Wait, no, the playable characters are small. The Smash Bros. series doesn't always stay true to scale."

Can we finally stop the "characters must be their original size" crap now? Not like this confirms Ridley, but it means that making him smaller sounds far more possible with this information. He was pretty small in Melee's intro, also, if I remember correctly, didn't characters change their own sizes among each SSB entry anyway? That does mean a lot, since they could re-size him to Melee proportions.

 

[Silvera]

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqFvxcSrIQ


Can we finally stop the "characters must be their original size" crap now? Not like this confirms Ridley, but it means that making him smaller sounds far more possible with this information. He was pretty small in Melee's intro, also, if I remember correctly, didn't characters change their own sizes among each SSB entry anyway? That does mean a lot, since they could re-size him to Melee proportions.

Somewhat small but I see what you're saying

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Somewhat small but I see what you're saying

That's exactly what I'm talking about. He looks good in that. Also, it actually looked like Meta-Ridley at first to me instead of him holding something. Huh.

 

[Knight Dude]

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqFvxcSrIQ

This is an interesting one for two reasons;

The main website accidentally shows it as a Wii U picture, despite this clearly being a 3DS screenshot. Mistakes happen.

But the other, and more importantly is; "Pic of the day. This dog is huge… Wait, no, the playable characters are small. The Smash Bros. series doesn't always stay true to scale."

Can we finally stop the "characters must be their original size" crap now? Not like this confirms Ridley, but it means that making him smaller sounds far more possible with this information. He was pretty small in Melee's intro, also, if I remember correctly, didn't characters change their own sizes among each SSB entry anyway? That does mean a lot, since they could re-size him to Melee proportions.

Heh. I didn't get to see Sakurai's post on that. I just saw the picture. The only thing I could take from it was Megaman going all like "Come at me Bro!" with Dedede. I would imagine that being true to scale isn't an issue with any character honestly.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Heh. I didn't get to see Sakurai's post on that. I just saw the picture. The only thing I could take from it was Megaman going all like "Come at me Bro!" with Dedede. I would imagine that being true to scale isn't an issue with any character honestly.

Pretty much. Ridley can still be the largest of the cast and have powerful moves. He could be between Samus and Giga Bowser's size and be fine.

Also, a lot of people think that if he's a Stage Hazard, he can't be playable. Spirit Train stage says "hi". Toon Link isn't part of the stage when he's being played as. There goes that idea. I also love the fact people think he's solely a stage hazard. Never mind that he was a boss twice in Brawl, and was going to be an Assist Trophy. What's odd is when Sakurai went with the "enemy from the past bit", all he showed was Mother Brain, as an Assist Trophy. Is Ridley really a stage hazard? Or was that a joke just to show off Mother Brain? Or was he a stage hazard at one time and he changed his mind?

That's my end thought, that we really don't know Ridley's status and nobody will till the game is released. Plain and simple.(or he actually outright declares exactly what he does in the game) Only thing I think will happen is he'll have an effect on gameplay for sure.(Assist, Boss, Stage Hazard, playable)

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Non of that has anything to do with Ridley, smashboards is just doing it's thing by desperately clinging to words. Sakurai is stating what's obvious by the picture.

Captain Falcon isn't supposed to be bigger than his Car, but on Big Blue and Mute City he is.

Fox isn't supposed to be bigger than his Arwing, but on Corneria he is, and so on.

Scaling could work for the sake of trying to fit your characters on a bunch of toy blocks, but it's not believable that a Puppy can be 30 times larger than a Gorilla, or Samus , who is a 6 foot + woman.

Balancing size between characters is not the same as scaling size for stages; it's a whole different ball game.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Yeah, nothing is stopping him from downsizing Ridley. That's all there is to it. He even admits size isn't always relevant. Also, the only two appearances of Ridley before Brawl was a sprite based upon his old Metroid 1 appearance, where he's almost exactly the same size as Samus', so he'd be presumed the same if he showed up, the same size as Samus in Melee(maybe a little bigger), and it's not till Brawl he gains any size differences. He's never been consistent in size, which fits exactly with what Sakurai said, that characters are not consistent to size. Nobody is saying this is a hint to Ridley specifically, but it is saying "Size isn't a relevant factor all the time".

We got no clue how he'll appear in the game(he may be a sticker/trophy at best even).

...Also, you do realize that Captain Falcon is actually near accurate to his vehicles on Mute City and Big Blue, right? His giant spaceship is that big and his regular racer is really that size. It's pretty on-scale. Brawl actually oversizes his spaceship, but only during the SSE. It's smaller on Big Blue, about the real size. Also, the characters actually are scaled to the regular racers in Big Blue as well, like they could pilot it decently.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Mute City in Melee he's not even close to actual size, and that's not the only case. It's just smash bros., there are dozens of examples of this, and sizing characters to a stage is literally no problem, while sizing characters is a whole different demon.

Ridley was in a lot of games before Brawl, but size isn't what's stopping his inclusion in my opinion. He's just a character wanted by a small circle of the internet. Same applies to K Rool, Shulk, Geno or whatever.

I just can't help but feel that a lot of the characters people believe should be in aren't gonna be in. The relevance we find in these characters aren't enough, even though we feel it should be.

 

[Frostwraith]

I'd be fine with no Ridley, actually. He'd be an interesting addition and would please many people (me included), but if he doesn't make it in, I'll just accept it. There's no point in complaining about a character that didn't make in. Still, the "too big" argument was never a good one.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Ridley's wanted heavily by tons of people around the world. You'd think the constant Miiverse, rosters everywhere including him, and such should be evident of that. Yeah, sure, he's not wanted. Let's not kid ourselves. Also, in one of the polls, he was right below King Dedede in votes. The guy is wanted, and Sakurai knows it. He even acknowledged Ridley as playable in a Nintendo Power interview. Outright saying "he might be too slow, is that alright?". So the whole size idea is pretty bull, always.

This just confirms that being large is canon is clearly not guaranteed to be relevant.

What Frostwraith said, basically; Whatever happens happens. I'll be disappointed, but I'll survive. I love the roster already as is.

Also, those cars looked quite scaled realistically to me. I didn't see any huge differences.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Size arguments should've been thrown out the window already, especially since Olimar is playable and Kirby is half Mario's height despite being 8 inches tall.

They never should've existed to begin with, honestly.

 

[8-peacock-8]

1. I love today's PoD description.

2. Yay the J-Stars rumor is real. These are the final J-Stars characters....HEIHACHI, EDAJIMA IS DISPLEASED ABOUT BEING SUPPORT!

Spoiler

 

[Pazzo.]

1. I love today's PoD description.

2. Yay the J-Stars rumor is real. These are the final J-Stars characters....HEIHACHI, EDAJIMA IS DISPLEASED ABOUT BEING SUPPORT!

Spoiler

My reaction to the PoTD's commentators:

 

[MSmariosonic]

Ridley just called me, he wants his dog back.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Ridley just called me, he wants his dog back.

But Samus isn't his *knocked out*

 

[MSmariosonic]

By the way....does anybody's *** hurt too when ya read those Miiverse comments. Power freakin' Girls as playable characters!? Ridley having the same chance being in as Naruto and Goku!?

I want to sit on those kids so I can crush them.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

For the record, the Powerpuff Girls fit the requirements to get in. Only Manga/Anime characters are barred. They started as Cartoon characters, and have Nintendo games.

It's a dumb reason because balancing them properly would be a nightmare. But not because of anything else.

And yeah, Goku/Naruto are dumb comparisons. Ridley actually has a chance.

 

[BluePikmin11]

It looks like the Year of Luigi is ending on March 18th.
Year of Yoshi incoming.

 

[Substitution]

Feast your eyes on something disorienting:

Mr. Game & Watch in 3D!

It's like a paradox in the form of a character...

 

[Protom]

Y no year of Metroid?
Maybe we can get it to crawl.

 

[Substitution]

Y no year of Metroid?
Maybe we can get it to crawl.

Metroid doesn't crawl.
He's a robot. And they don't crawl.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Metroid is too busy being punched out.

 

[Protom]

Metroid doesn't crawl.
He's a robot. And they don't crawl.

What about Yidley? Can he and Graid crawl?

 

[Substitution]

Metroid is too busy being punched out.

I blame Smash Bros. He influenced him somehow...

What about Yidley? Can he and Graid crawl?

Yidley I think so. Though you have to download DLC for Graid.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Mute City in Melee he's not even close to actual size, and that's not the only case. It's just smash bros., there are dozens of examples of this, and sizing characters to a stage is literally no problem, while sizing characters is a whole different demon.

Ridley was in a lot of games before Brawl, but size isn't what's stopping his inclusion in my opinion. He's just a character wanted by a small circle of the internet. Same applies to K Rool, Shulk, Geno or whatever.

I just can't help but feel that a lot of the characters people believe should be in aren't gonna be in. The relevance we find in these characters aren't enough, even though we feel it should be.

Yeah man, people need to stop begging for these niche characters, from series that are only barely million sellers. Especially characters with a mostly Western fan base, as we all know the history of Smash. Bottom line is, just because Little Mac is on the top of all these internet polls doesn't mean he'll be in the game.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Yeah man, people need to stop begging for these niche characters, from series that are only barely million sellers. Especially characters with a mostly Western fan base, as we all know the history of Smash. Bottom line is, just because Little Mac is on the top of all these internet polls doesn't mean he'll be in the game.

Wat. Hes already been confirmed....

 

[8-peacock-8]

HAAWHAAWHAAW

 

[Spazzy_D]

Bottom line is Ridley is important, and Sakurai KNOWS he's important. The guy is the only character to be, in some form (not just as a Trophy) in EVERY Smash game and not be playable. Sakurai teased him, stage hazard or not, because he knew people liked the character. He was a rival in the Melee intro...along with Wolf, who became playable, and Gorrah, who became the FIRST assist Trophy. He was a HUGE part of SSE. If he is not in the game it is simply because Sakurai doesn't think he would make a good PLAYABLE character, not because he is not important. The fact that he has been worked into the game over and over again proves this.

Also, go check out Miiverse, as it's not the internet Smash community as much as the place they make fun of. They are people that, you know, actually bought a Wii U, and there is ALWAYS Ridley talk there,

 

[Substitution]

Bottom line is Ridley is important, and Sakurai KNOWS he's important. The guy is the only character to be, in some form (not just as a Trophy) in EVERY Smash game and not be playable.

Really? Cause I can think of a few.
Oh, and Smash 64 didn't have trophies.

Sakurai teased him, stage hazard or not, because he knew people liked the character. He was a rival in the Melee intro...along with Wolf, who became playable, and Gorrah, who became the FIRST assist Trophy.

And that's important... How?
You're grasping at straws. What does this have to do with Ridley?

He was a HUGE part of SSE.

And by huge, you mean two parts.

If he is not in the game it is simply because Sakurai doesn't think he would make a good PLAYABLE character, not because he is not important. The fact that he has been worked into the game over and over again proves this.

Source?
You can't prove this. You're just assuming.

Also, go check out Miiverse, as it's not the internet Smash community as much as the place they make fun of. They are people that, you know, actually bought a Wii U, and there is ALWAYS Ridley talk there,

No thank you. I've seen Miiverse.
It's like Gamefaqs if it was worse.
And personally, I'd like to talk about more than just Ridley. Like oh I dunno, the game?

 

[Spazzy_D]

Really? Cause I can think of a few.
Oh, and Smash 64 didn't have trophies.


And that's important... How?
You're grasping at straws. What does this have to do with Ridley?


And by huge, you mean two parts.



Source?
You can't prove this. You're just assuming.


No thank you. I've seen Miiverse.
It's like Gamefaqs if it was worse.
And personally, I'd like to talk about more than just Ridley. Like oh I dunno, the game?

I'm saying he has been important enough to feature in each game. I'm saying Sakurai, in some way, revisited each of the Melee trailer rivals. You can try to say that's not important, but it at least shows that he was, in some way important enough to be put showcased. I brought up Miiverse because they show case a fan base that isn't he nebulous "internet," yes it's an online community, but it obviously has very different thoughts on Smash then "we do."

Ridley isn't Shulk. He wasn't a most likely one off character from a game that couldn't sell a million copies. He isn't even K. Rool, as he has been heavily featured in all but two Metroid games and was a driving force behind the most recent game in the series. All I'm saying is Ridley is an important Nintendo character.

No one is stopping you from not talking about Ridley. I didn't hit replay for you, you know.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Metroid doesn't crawl.
He's a robot. And they don't crawl.

Tarantulas is a robot and crawls.

 

[Substitution]

Tarantulas is a robot and crawls.

That's Pokemon right?

 

[Vintage Creep]

Yeah man, people need to stop begging for these niche characters, from series that are only barely million sellers. Especially characters with a mostly Western fan base, as we all know the history of Smash. Bottom line is, just because Little Mac is on the top of all these internet polls doesn't mean he'll be in the game.