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[Velvet Phoenix]

i say 36 to 40 tops

Yeah, I agree. That's a pretty good estimation.

 

[MSmariosonic]

So basicly the same amount of characters as Brawl, eh?

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Yeah, I agree. That's a pretty good estimation.

he isn't gonna make it like ultimate ninja storm

and as much as i want everyone including me to get what they want i want him to focus on Online multiplayer and other game features in the end if do not get tetra as a playable character still atleast i got megaman i'll be sad about it but still happy about the game in all

 

[Frostwraith]

I believe this game's roster will be bigger than Brawl's. Somewhere in the 40-50 range. I believe that more than 50 characters is a stretch, but I don't believe Sakurai would have the put the same amount of characters as Brawl.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

I believe this game's roster will be bigger than Brawl's. Somewhere in the 40-50 range. I believe that more than 50 characters is a stretch, but I don't believe Sakurai would have the put the same amount of characters as Brawl.

40-45 maybe?

 

[MSmariosonic]

The worst thing is that Sakurai said that there were currently no plans for DLC.

I'm so satisfied with the new online mode. As both a casual and a competitve player is this the best thing that could've been happend to me. And here it is. Sakurai is life, Sakurai is love.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

The worst thing is that Sakurai said that there were currently no plans for DLC.

I'm so satisfied with the new online mode. As both a casual and a competitve player is this the best thing that could've been happend to me. And here it is. Sakurai is life, Sakurai is love.

"currently" dosen't mean plans for it can't change later for near or initial release we might just get costume dlc or stage dlc but it would be dlc none the less most thing im hoping for is tetra but also really constant updates for it's game servers for its bug fixes and glitches or unfair exploits

 

[MSmariosonic]

"currently" dosen't mean plans for it can't change later for near or initial release we might just get costume dlc or stage dlc but it would be dlc none the less most thing im hoping for is tetra but also really constant updates for it's game servers for its bug fixes and glitches or unfair exploits

True.

I kinda want DLC of the Melee clones. No...i'm serious..I want them.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

True.

I kinda want DLC of the Melee clones. No...i'm serious..I want them.

"Roys are boy"

Roy:.....


but just put tetra or kumatora in there and id be satisfied but if there not in it then oh well because i highly doubt this would be the final installment in the smash series also after the rumors of a new nintendo console on the way in 3 years

 

[MSmariosonic]

Some other DLC characters I would like to see are well...if they aren't in the game...Ivysaur and Squirtle.

I seriously should stop putting periods in my sentences.......

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Some other DLC characters I would like to see are well...if they aren't in the game...Ivysaur and Squirtle.

I seriously should stop putting periods in my sentences.......

So pokemon trainer again?

 

[Sharkarat]

brawl had 39 characters, there's already been revealed 6 newcomers. for it to be less than 45 characters there would need to be very few newcomers or a huge amount of cuts.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

brawl had 39 characters, there's already been revealed 6 newcomers. for it to be less than 45 characters there would need to be very few newcomers or a huge amount of cuts.

He said no cuts but he also said he making the list steadily

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

He said no cuts but he also said he making the list steadily

He didn't say no cuts. What he said is he won't try to cut anyone, but they may happen. Which seems to be the case for Ivysaur and Squirtle.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

He didn't say no cuts. What he said is he won't try to cut anyone, but they may happen. Which seems to be the case for Ivysaur and Squirtle.

technically it was pokemon trainer but whatever

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

technically it was pokemon trainer but whatever

Pokemon Trainer himself is not a playable character. Only Squirtle and Ivysaur are.

I wouldn't count on the other two coming back, though. Greninja fills the Squirtle spot just fine.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Pokemon Trainer himself is not a playable character. Only Squirtle and Ivysaur are.

I wouldn't count on the other two coming back, though. Greninja fills the Squirtle spot just fine.

brawl says other wise but it dosen't matter techinicallity he is veteran he feels the spot of three trio the trainer uses as for greninja i guess your right about the squirtle thing i still think it's odd though

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

brawl says other wise but it dosen't matter techinicallity he is veteran he feels the spot of three trio the trainer uses as for greninja i guess your right about the squirtle thing i still think it's odd though

No it doesn't. Brawl doesn't count him as a real character. He's just a placeholder icon. Even Sakurai says you don't really play as the Trainer, but his Pokemon. The data itself says PT is not a playable character. Giga Bowser is literally the only one to have character data among the regular playables(and that's leftover Melee data, so maybe he might've been a boss or something) and the rest are just NPC's.

Brawl does not support PT as a real playable character either. He's only a background guy and "technically" there just to give an excuse to the switch. But he was never possibly playable in any possible way. Maybe at one time, if his jumping animation says anything, but that was it.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

No it doesn't. Brawl doesn't count him as a real character. He's just a placeholder icon. Even Sakurai says you don't really play as the Trainer, but his Pokemon. The data itself says PT is not a playable character. Giga Bowser is literally the only one to have character data among the regular playables(and that's leftover Melee data, so maybe he might've been a boss or something) and the rest are just NPC's.

Brawl does not support PT as a real playable character either. He's only a background guy and "technically" there just to give an excuse to the switch. But he was never possibly playable in any possible way. Maybe at one time, if his jumping animation says anything, but that was it.

true about giga to this day but only way permanently play as giga is through hacks or debug so hes half and half as pokemon trainer yes he is a place holder for the 1st gen trio but they weren't exactly each a single character in a way the are but at the same time aren't

 

[MSmariosonic]

I Always saw the Brawl roster as 39 characters instead of 35 characters.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

I Always saw the Brawl roster as 39 characters instead of 35 characters.

well if you discard the transformation characters as not a single fighter then yeah

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

true about giga to this day but only way permanently play as giga is through hacks or debug so hes half and half as pokemon trainer yes he is a place holder for the 1st gen trio but they weren't exactly each a single character in a way the are but at the same time aren't

Nope. PT is still not really playable. They were always 3 characters at all times. They were just mapped to the same slot no different from Zelda/Sheik. They just had a programming that allowed them to be switched out outside of a special move.

Sakurai separated them further, not that they were "together" in any sense. Only Ice Climbers are really two characters in one, but you can't play as Nana anyway. She's a pure NPC. And the fact you can play as Giga(an actual character) compared to PT himself means he's the only "real" 40th character if any. In reality, there's 39 playable characters entirely. No exceptions.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Nope. PT is still not really playable. They were always 3 characters at all times. They were just mapped to the same slot no different from Zelda/Sheik. They just had a programming that allowed them to be switched out outside of a special move.

Sakurai separated them further, not that they were "together" in any sense. Only Ice Climbers are really two characters in one, but you can't play as Nana anyway. She's a pure NPC. And the fact you can play as Giga(an actual character) compared to PT himself means he's the only "real" 40th character if any. In reality, there's 39 playable characters entirely. No exceptions.

the pokemon trio was basically sheik and samus to me it still is a single character and make sense with character layout especially samus and zelda as both there final smash have to do with same meaning i see what your meaning though aswell

 

[PLATINUM7]

Nope. PT is still not really playable. They were always 3 characters at all times. They were just mapped to the same slot no different from Zelda/Sheik. They just had a programming that allowed them to be switched out outside of a special move.

Sakurai separated them further, not that they were "together" in any sense. Only Ice Climbers are really two characters in one, but you can't play as Nana anyway. She's a pure NPC. And the fact you can play as Giga(an actual character) compared to PT himself means he's the only "real" 40th character if any. In reality, there's 39 playable characters entirely. No exceptions.

You can play as Nana if you change the palatte.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I didn't initially care for the Greninja reveal, but then I realized it was the closest I would get to being able to play as Strider in Smash Bros

 

[The Original Robot boy]

I didn't initially care for the Greninja reveal, but then I realized it was the closest I would get to being able to play as Strider in Smash Bros

Haha i know right?

even slippy striders final smash is basically ragnarok

 

[8-peacock-8]

TOMODACHI LIFE IS COMING

 

[Kamikazek]

Pokemon Trainer is not literally a playable character(although that is semantically arguable. The down B is straight up his move, not any of his pokemons', he's the one who preforms the move, and when you use it you're directly controlling him and not any of the pokemon. The final smash is also arguably his move. Sakurai even calls those two moves the pokemon trainer's moves on the dojo, whereas the other moves are *insert pokemon's moves*. He also moves with his pokemon and does poses when you attack, meaning you have limited control over him which gets to the matter of what degree of control is your thereshold for "playable". Same deal with Luma or the back Iceclimber. There is no right answer to whether they're playable or not, though I don't think Sakurai considers the to be.)

He is, however, a fighter. A member of the roster list, a face/name on the select screen, a character with a trophy you get from beating classic mode, a primary character in Subspace emissary, a character who is listed in several lists throughout the game and official materials that include all the other fighters and nothing but fighters. That is not necessarily the same thing as a playable character, and Sakurai even seems to distinguish between the two(he usually some term like challenger or fighter for roster members, not "playable character") though fans tend to combine the two. Him being cut is a roster cut, whether he's playable or not. You could even say he's special for being the only non-playable fighter on the roster.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

TOMODACHI LIFE IS COMING

Well isn't that something?

 

[Miffa]

TOMODACHI LIFE IS COMING

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LOL that is a hilarious video

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Pokemon Trainer is not literally a playable character(although that is semantically arguable. The down B is straight up his move, not any of his pokemons', he's the one who preforms the move, and when you use it you're directly controlling him and not any of the pokemon. The final smash is also arguably his move. Sakurai even calls those two moves the pokemon trainer's moves on the dojo, whereas the other moves are *insert pokemon's moves*. He also moves with his pokemon and does poses when you attack, meaning you have limited control over him which gets to the matter of what degree of control is your thereshold for "playable". Same deal with Luma or the back Iceclimber. There is no right answer to whether they're playable or not, though I don't think Sakurai considers the to be.)

He is, however, a fighter. A member of the roster list, a face/name on the select screen, a character with a trophy you get from beating classic mode, a primary character in Subspace emissary, a character who is listed in several lists throughout the game and official materials that include all the other fighters and nothing but fighters. That is not necessarily the same thing as a playable character, and Sakurai even seems to distinguish between the two(he usually some term like challenger or fighter for roster members, not "playable character") though fans tend to combine the two. Him being cut is a roster cut, whether he's playable or not. You could even say he's special for being the only non-playable fighter on the roster.

What he said

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

the pokemon trio was basically sheik and samus to me it still is a single character and make sense with character layout especially samus and zelda as both there final smash have to do with same meaning i see what your meaning though aswell

All of those are separate playable characters. As were always Zelda and Sheik. Honestly, they're the same as Link and Toon Link. Or Ike and Marth. While they are related to each other via a move, they still are separate playable characters.

In other news, finally got somewhere on Zelda Classic. Or kind of. I can't use the tile set I wanted to for my Quest 64 remake. I have to edit every tile myself since they don't matchup in the Tile Editor.

Think of it like this; Let's say I want to select O. Instead, I have to select ( and ) separately. So it's a roadblock for me.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

All of those are separate playable characters. As were always Zelda and Sheik. Honestly, they're the same as Link and Toon Link. Or Ike and Marth. While they are related to each other via a move, they still are separate playable characters.

In other news, finally got somewhere on Zelda Classic. Or kind of. I can't use the tile set I wanted to for my Quest 64 remake. I have to edit every tile myself since they don't matchup in the Tile Editor.

Think of it like this; Let's say I want to select O. Instead, I have to select ( and ) separately. So it's a roadblock for me.

there playable characters but not separate until now

 

[8-peacock-8]

North America version.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

there playable characters but not separate until now

Don't care. Separate from day one. Not in the mood for this either.

My mind's on more important things, like Zelda Classic. So please drop it.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

North America version.

Hmmmmm what can i say but
ಠ_ಠ

 

[8-peacock-8]

So i guess we can expect Miis eventually huh.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Don't care. Separate from day one. Not in the mood for this either.

My mind's on more important things, like Zelda Classic. So please drop it.

Lol you're never in the mood for anything hyper and nope if that's true they be a acutal roster selection on the screen there one fighter but two playable characters

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

**** you, Toad! Just **** you! I'd say that Drybake Desert is my least favorite of all Sticker Star woulds due to having to back track for scraps and dealing with these damn Toad Doors. On top of that, he had to do the Mario Kart "Heh heh heh!" laugh when you get the puzzle wrong.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

For Zelda Classic, I may have to redo every sprite myself. The good news is that it's easy. The bad news is that I would have to reset up the sheet myself. So it'll take a while. At least it works. Every space is 16 x 16. The issue is the current sprite sheet wasn't like that.

Unsure of how to implement a lot of stuff, though. This helps for items, at least.