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Have you been recommended to go to the second post of our support thread yet? Because you totally should go there so we can brainwash you.
I mean convince.
I just linked my essay that has the size comparison annexed as source in it.

It should be enough because if you disagree with the whole text, I have nothing to tell you to change you.
 

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Can I just ask you guys one question.. Other than fan demand, what does Ridley have going for him?
 

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Can I just ask you guys one question.. Other than fan demand, what does Ridley have going for him?
inb4 Another Metroid character that isn't Samus, Metroid apparently needs more characters, nobody wants to play as Samus, Ridley's popular..eh, yeah.
 

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Can I just ask you guys one question.. Other than fan demand, what does Ridley have going for him?
He is the main villain of metroid, killed Samus parent's. Dark Samus is an AT and Metroid has Samus. . . Twice.
 

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Can I just ask you guys one question.. Other than fan demand, what does Ridley have going for him?
In tease situation, the tease should take priority to rate chances.

So, just consider the August 20 words and the 10 seconds clip along with no demo at E3. Those would be part of the tease.

Other than that, nothing. Tough, the direct took a month when even myself tough deconfirmed on first watch while the second watch was when it was too odd.

I'm sure it was made on purpose to get this reaction for some and still think deconfrmed for others.
 

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See, there are people that want Ridley in because of his potential, but don't think he's going to be 100%. Those are the people I can get behind.

But then there are people who are absolutely sure, without a doubt, that Ridley actually IS playable and/or just want him in to piss off the people that didn't.

THOSE people are the people I absolutely just can't agree with when it comes to Ridley.
 
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Hmm, does Smash Bros. need more villain characters? Just some question. xD
 

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See, there are people that want Ridley in because of his potential, but don't think he's going to be 100%. Those are the people I can get behind.

But then there are people who are absolutely sure, without a doubt, that Ridley actually IS playable and/or just want him in to piss off the people that didn't.

THOSE people are the people I absolutely just can't agree with when it comes to Ridley.
I believe he is in without a shadow of a doubt because the evidence is glaring me right in the face. I don't care about detractors unless they step on my terrain. (though I do enjoy a good debate).
 

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See, there are people that want Ridley in because of his potential, but don't think he's going to be 100%. Those are the people I can get behind.

But then there are people who are absolutely sure, without a doubt, that Ridley actually IS playable and/or just want him in to piss off the people that didn't.

THOSE people are the people I absolutely just can't agree with when it comes to Ridley.
Well, the same applies for people who don't want Ridley in and are absolutely sure he's not playable.
Personally, I don't give a hoot if he's playable or not.
 

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He's the most prominent character aside from Samus herself, could have a very fun moveset, has a lot of potential with said fun moveset, has a lot of popularity, and would be another very unique addition to a series that prides itself on at least a mostly unique cast of characters from all throughout the company's history, which Ridley is definitely a big part of with Metroid being one of Nintendo's bigger franchises.

@ Soul. Soul. , I don't see why you seem to have this idea that nobody wants to play as Samus just because they want Ridley. That's like saying the people who wanted Dedede or Meta Knight in Brawl's speculation wanted them because they didn't want to play as Kirby.
 

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Can I just ask you guys one question.. Other than fan demand, what does Ridley have going for him?
- Most Prominent Metroid character after Samus
- Most prominent unrepresented Nintendo villain (he is one of few Nintendo villains to exist since the NES days)
- Moveset potential (he is a giant space dragon)
- He is a giant space dragon
 

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Hmm, does Smash Bros. need more villain characters? Just some question. xD
Well, I'd certainly like to see some more in. I mean, why are the heroes always taking the spotlights, huh? What's up with that? The villains need their time to shine, to step out of the darkness and show their gosh-darned moves!
 

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I don't think it was a joke, even I find the denial funny jk lol.. I'm pretty sure he didn't official reveal Ridley as what ever just because he didn't want extreme fan outrage.... and on the off chance that people actually don't buy the game just based on Ridleys status.
Chrom, Takamaru, Dark Samus, Midna, Toad (most likely), Skull Kid and that is not all! So, that is not the reason why not just reveal him like everyone else, straight and without any room for doubts. He said that he dislikes giving false hope.
You're right, but what evidence did you have going for Toon Link at the time, and what evidence do I have going for Ridley now? Lol
Both appeared on the stage ("Toon Link" was shown in the PotD, Ridley's shadow was shown on the stage in April Direct at the end of Yellow Devil section of it), both had their roles unconfirmed until that, both were assumed to be disconfirmed (Toon Link was revealed to be playable once again while Ridley's status is still unknown and he wasn't shown since Brawl, only his shadow and accidentaly his tail).
Can I just ask you guys one question.. Other than fan demand, what does Ridley have going for him?
2nd most important character of Metroid franchise, Metroid still has only 1 character from it playable (2 slots, 1 character), he is also one of the oldest Nintendo villains (25 years or somewhere near that), one of the most popular/requested newcommers, along with K.Rool (no, Mewtwo is not the most popular/requested newcommer and if you will say that he is...then either you forgot something or you're an idiot). Oh, and he isn't a cartoony animal, a pokemon or yet another human. Instead, he is a bada** space dragon.

Why would a character that ALWAYS was a BOSS be teased as a BOSS if that is nothing new? It is as new as Mario being playable. Imagine Sakurai teasing Mario as a playable character. By just showing his shadow and not even saying his name.
Hmm, does Smash Bros. need more villain characters? Just some question. xD
Yes, but first, we need actual Ganondorf instead of Falcondorf or Falcondork we had in Melee and Brawl, but not Hairdorf either. Ganondorf with Hairdorf's moveset would be as good as playable Ridley or K.Rool. But first, we must get one of these 2.
 
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Can I just ask you guys one question.. Other than fan demand, what does Ridley have going for him?
You can't just take out fan demand. That's a major factor.

Metroid desperately needs more playable characters, and Ridley has to be first in that list.

He's a purple space dragon. What more can you say?

Already has some moveset potential.

The way Sakurai has teased him. You cannot deny it being a tease.
 

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@ Soul. Soul. , I don't see why you seem to have this idea that nobody wants to play as Samus just because they want Ridley. That's like saying the people who wanted Dedede or Meta Knight in Brawl's speculation wanted them because they didn't want to play as Kirby.
I've heard that Ridley supporters in other sites want the character in just because Samus and ZSS are the same person.
I'm just saying that if Ridley is disconfirmed, everyone would probably complain that they need to play as Samus. I don't think this is likely, but it could happen.
 

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Zekrom, Reshiram, Haxorus, Chandelure, Hydreigon, Genesect, Serperior (more so in Japan), Krookodile, Scolipede, and Bisharp come to mind, and I'm sure there's more that have a strong fanbase to them as well.

Don't let the backlash fool you, there's a good fanbase for most of the Pokémon.
Bisharp's design is top notch, but it's speed stat is despicable, which is why I forgot about it. Krookodile is a great Pokemon, though.

I know most people love Chandelure, but I hate it's design with a burning passion (lol cause it's a fire type). I'm not fond of Pokemon based on appliances or household objects, no matter what the generation.
 
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Clone Ridley from Other M is a stage hazard. No doubt in my mind about that. To me, "strongly hinted" is basically confirmed.

But there's a very good chance it'll be like with Toon Link and the Miis, with his design from the Prime games playable. This makes perfect sense to me, I can't see Other M Ridley being playable because:

1.He's too bulky to match Ridley's fighting style

2.He isn't actually Ridley
 
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Hmm, does Smash Bros. need more villain characters? Just some question. xD
I don't know if we need them, but having them doesn't hurt. People say the same things about female reps, so why not both? Medusa would be pretty cool.
 

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I've heard that Ridley supporters in other sites want the character in just because Samus and ZSS are the same person.
I'm just saying that if Ridley is disconfirmed, everyone would probably complain that they need to play as Samus. I don't think this is likely, but it could happen.
I've never heard that before..I love Samus. Both of em. People want more Metroid reps (Ridley specifically) because it's an underrepped franchise.
 

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See, there are people that want Ridley in because of his potential, but don't think he's going to be 100%. Those are the people I can get behind.

But then there are people who are absolutely sure, without a doubt, that Ridley actually IS playable and/or just want him in to piss off the people that didn't.

THOSE people are the people I absolutely just can't agree with when it comes to Ridley.
I'm in the former.

I want to play as the big scary dragon with maybe an emphasis on extremes, but I can't if the development team doesn't agree with it. But at least I still have Bowser and Charizard, so I can still live with it..
 

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Clone Ridley from Other M is a stage hazard. No doubt in my mind about that. To me, "strongly hinted" is basically confirmed.

But there's a very good chance it'll be like with Toon Link and the Miis, with his design from the Prime games playable. This makes perfect sense to me, I can't see Other M Ridley being playable because:

1.He's too bulky to match Ridley's fighting style

2.He isn't actually Ridley
I think that there is no boss and that playable Ridley is either concep other m art or is a hybrid design. The way the shadow moves can't be a boss.
 

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- Most Prominent Metroid character after Samus
- Most prominent unrepresented Nintendo villain (he is one of few Nintendo villains to exist since the NES days)
- Moveset potential (he is a giant space dragon)
- He is a giant space dragon
Now the last option I can agree with lmfaoo

But moral of the story my children, Ridley can be what ever you want it to be! But not what you need... Ok idk wtf I'm talking about but I still stand by Ridley being a boss, I get why people want him/her to be playable but what I don't get is how they don't believe that he or she is a boss on Pyrosphere

Let's agree to disagree and move on with this wonderful, funny ass video I found
 

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I've heard that Ridley supporters in other sites want the character in just because Samus and ZSS are the same person.
I'm just saying that if Ridley is disconfirmed, everyone would probably complain that they need to play as Samus. I don't think this is likely, but it could happen.
That doesn't mean they don't want to play as Samus. Samus and ZSS are indeed the same person, and two Samuses representing Metroid while the most prominent villain in the series sits out just seems odd.

Heck, I'd like Ridley, but that doesn't mean I won't play as Samus or ZSS.
 

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I've never heard that before..I love Samus. Both of em. People want more Metroid reps (Ridley specifically) because it's an underrepped franchise.
I understand that people want Ridley in. Of course, there's always an alternative:


That doesn't mean they don't want to play as Samus. Samus and ZSS are indeed the same person, and two Samuses representing Metroid while the most prominent villain in the series sits out just seems odd.
Heck, I'd like Ridley, but that doesn't mean I won't play as Samus or ZSS.
Eh, yeah, they are. I'm not into speculation, so I don't know what to talk about in this situation.
It's weird, but if he ends up getting disconfirmed, Samus and ZSS will be the only Metroid characters. I'm not saying that Ridley has no chance.
 
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Bisharp's design is top notch, but it's speed stat is despicable, which is why I forgot about it. Krookodile is a great Pokemon, though.

I know most people love Chandelure, but I hate it's design with a burning passion (lol cause it's a fire type). I'm not fond of Pokemon based on appliances or household objects, no matter what the generation.
I bet you must hate Klefki like it's some filthy thing that the cat brought as an offering, and the cat is like "master yo i brought you this sweet gift" and you're like "hell no you just pulled that out of some hole you lazy bum".

I'm in the former.

I want to play as the big scary dragon with maybe an emphasis on extremes, but I can't if the development team doesn't agree with it. But at least I still have Bowser and Charizard, so I can still live with it..
I wouldn't be too upset if he were revealed as a boss now (because the wait has kind of drained my hype), as long as they do it right. Worst case scenario is a sluggish piñata boss that just makes the stage annoying to play on.

Now the last option I can agree with lmfaoo

But moral of the story my children, Ridley can be what ever you want it to be! But not what you need... Ok idk wtf I'm talking about but I still stand by Ridley being a boss, I get why people want him/her to be playable but what I don't get is how they don't believe that he or she is a boss on Pyrosphere

Let's agree to disagree and move on with this wonderful, funny *** video I found
That's why I said you should get yourself brainwashed at our second post, silly!
But yeah, this discussion isn't really getting anywhere.

I understand that people want Ridley in. Of course, there's always an alternative:
Not getting anywhere.
 

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Clone Ridley from Other M is a stage hazard. No doubt in my mind about that. To me, "strongly hinted" is basically confirmed.

But there's a very good chance it'll be like with Toon Link and the Miis, with his design from the Prime games playable. This makes perfect sense to me, I can't see Other M Ridley being playable because:

1.He's too bulky to match Ridley's fighting style

2.He isn't actually Ridley
Possibility of "classic" Ridley is 0.5% since he would be like if we would get WW Ganondorf instead of HW+TP+OoT Ganondorf in Sm4sh. And Other M Ridley does matches Ridley's fighting style and his ground attacks in Other M perfectly fit what many think will be his playstyle since they are fast and strong (One-Hit Kill on Hard mode with any on the attacks except for that attack when he attempts to slash Samus with his claws or something like that) while having a noticable...um...endlag...startlag...don't remember how it was called...at the end or/and start of the animation.
Now the last option I can agree with lmfaoo

But moral of the story my children, Ridley can be what ever you want it to be! But not what you need... Ok idk wtf I'm talking about but I still stand by Ridley being a boss, I get why people want him/her to be playable but what I don't get is how they don't believe that he or she is a boss on Pyrosphere
Why we don't believe he is a boss on the Pyrosphere is mostly because he wasn't disconfirmed yet (most important part) even unlike every other character, his shadow is close to size to Bowser's (minus wings, this can be skipped of course), he jumps at the end of that part of the direct and he is just too slow for Ridley.
Oh, and Ridley is HE.
 
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I know people say that it's weird Ridley was only teased and not talked about, but why do people think that's reason enough to confirm him? Sakurai knows about fan-favorite characters all too well, and he can easily troll them in one fell swoop. After all, Greninja's trailer happened.
 

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Yo RIdley's pretty cool and I've got a very good feeling he'll be playable

But you know who else should be discussed?

Savvy Stylist
 

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I like Charizard...But he's not a purple pirate space dragon.
Yeah, Charizard isn't like Ridley. Now I'll predict what will happen in August 20th's pic of the day.
Either Ridley is shown as a stage hazard, a new stage, information or filler.
 
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Yo RIdley's pretty cool and I've got a very good feeling he'll be playable

But you know who else should be discussed?

Savvy Stylist
...Who? And why not...um...K.Rool, Isaac, Shulk, Chorus Men, Ghirahim...who else was also requested?..

I noticed something weird since i started to support Ridley - once someone starts to talk about Ridley, THAT happens and ends only after few pages. Happened to me on DeviantArt, Youtube, Mugen Guild forum and another forum you most likely never heard of.
 
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