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Except when you ignored Tingle's main character status in his own series multiple times I MEAN WHAT WHO SAID THAT.
oh yeah that none of his games are canon hes a minor main protagonist so he still dosen't effect the game barely if anything after minish cap he dosen't seem make any appearances after that so yeah he's a support character unless most his moves consist of him dancing or going up into a ballon idk if he's going be alot of attention grabber im pretty sure thats why he was assist in brawl

Comments like this one only serve to instigate more aggressive arguments.


Try to use more elaborate arguments instead of making petty comments if you want to be taken seriously.
well sorry i'm not really angry what he says to defend or say make since for those character of the matter and if you read other part of what i was saying that it sucks shes a villian character but in a wario game isn't all that characters villians including wario?
 
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oh yeah that none of his games are canon hes a minor main protagonist so he still dosen't effect the game barely if anything after minish cap he dosen't seem make any appearances after that so yeah he's a support character unless most his moves consist of him dancing or going up into a ballon idk if he's going be alot of attention grabber im pretty sure thats why he was assist in brawl
Why does canon matter? I hardly think it's an issue.

And besides, plenty of support characters have gotten into this game before.
 

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oh yeah that none of his games are canon hes a minor main protagonist so he still dosen't effect the game barely if anything after minish cap he dosen't seem make any appearances after that so yeah he's a support character unless most his moves consist of him dancing or going up into a ballon idk if he's going be alot of attention grabber im pretty sure thats why he was assist in brawl
Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland came out in 2006/2007. Which was after Minish Cap. And it had a sequel.

Also, canon? Zelda, Giga Bowser, all of the retro characters, Captain Falcon, Ness, Lucas, and Rosalina would like a word. Not to mention the Fighting teams, Subspace, and Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and the other Brawl bosses.
 
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Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland came out in 2007. Which was after Minish Cap. And it had a sequel.

Also, canon? Zelda, Giga Bowser, all of the retro characters, Captain Falcon, Ness, Lucas, and Rosalina would like a word.
it still isn't canon to the main zelda series
Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland came out in 2006/2007. Which was after Minish Cap. And it had a sequel.

Also, canon? Zelda, Giga Bowser, all of the retro characters, Captain Falcon, Ness, Lucas, and Rosalina would like a word. Not to mention the Fighting teams, Subspace, and Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and the other Brawl bosses.
as i said the main zelda series and like i said again Tingle was still a assist in melee he was a background stage effect
 
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it still isn't canon to the main zelda series
Neither is Zelda using the Goddess spells from Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess Zelda utilizing Sheik.

Not to mention Twilight Princess Link fighting Wind Waker Link.

Also, considering the Zelda timeline follows Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, and the Triforce, Tingle's adventure to build a tower with money and access a paradise called Rupeeland won't exactly be acknowledged, as the events happen soon after Tingle becomes what he is today: a green-clothed middle-age man who lives to collect Rupees.
 
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it still isn't canon to the main zelda series
The Wario series has become a spin-off of the Mario franchise, much in the same way that the Tingle games have become a spin-off of the Zelda franchise.

But even so, Wario is still a Mario character, and Tingle is still a Zelda character.

Canonicity has little to no bearing on whether Tingle is included in Smash or not. Factors that are more worthy of one's attention include series prominence/relevance/importance, viability as a fighter, uniqueness value, and whether Tingle is the most deserving/probable Zelda(/Tingle) Newcomer.

EDIT: It also occurs to me that Tingle has high Smash attendance as far as Zelda characters go - he was a stage element in Melee and an Assist Trophy in Brawl.
 
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The canon is dubious. Nowhere has Nintendo denied or said it was canon or not. That's not a usable argument. And who cares if they're canon or not? He's still the main character there regardless.

Canon is a useless argument, especially when we're talking about SSB, a completely non-canon series in itself.
 
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As Poppy said, Zelda herself pretty much destroys that argument. On top of making up a moveset for her, she still has Sheik and the Goddess spells, which were in OoT, not TP (what she's designed after). Not even that, but she never used the spells in the first place.
 

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As Poppy said, Zelda herself pretty much destroys that argument. On top of making up a moveset for her, she still has Sheik and the Goddess spells, which were in OoT, not TP (what she's designed after). Not even that, but she never used the spells in the first place.
Not to mention Captain Falcon, who, by canon logic, would basically be a fighting Blue Falcon.
 

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Not to mention Captain Falcon, who, by canon logic, would basically be a fighting Blue Falcon.
Or just a gun user as shown in the Comic that came with the first F-Zero game. He's actually portrayed far more realistically in the Anime according to what was available at the time. Also, Falcon Punch became canon to the games a bit later in GX which mentioned it. I forget if it was before or after the Anime though.
 

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Not to mention Captain Falcon, who, by canon logic, would basically be a fighting Blue Falcon.
Haha yeah that is true
Neither is Zelda using the Goddess spells from Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess Zelda utilizing Sheik.

Not to mention Twilight Princess Link fighting Wind Waker Link.

Also, considering the Zelda timeline follows Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, and the Triforce, Tingle's adventure to build a tower with money and access a paradise called Rupeeland won't exactly be acknowledged, as the events happen soon after Tingle becomes what he is today: a green-clothed middle-age man who lives to collect Rupees.
well also with that answer i see it either talking about smash/ zelda or both combined?

The canon is dubious. Nowhere has Nintendo denied or said it was canon or not. That's not a usable argument. And who cares if they're canon or not? He's still the main character there regardless.

Canon is a useless argument, especially when we're talking about SSB, a completely non-canon series in itself.
Well his maps sure did save termina from being crush by a giant moon thank you tingle lol but like said as far he gotten was assist after being a stage effect for melee
 

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Well his maps sure did save termina from being crush by a giant moon thank you tingle lol but like said as far he gotten was assist after being a stage effect for melee
You're kinda grasping at straws. Tingle was upgraded to Assist Trophy from Stage Element. That's an improvement.

The farthest Little Mac has gotten was Assist Trophy- oh wait.
The farthest Villager has gotten was background character- oh wait.
 
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Well his maps sure did save termina from being crush by a giant moon thank you tingle lol but like said as far he gotten was assist after being a stage effect for melee
And Little Mac proves that Assist Trophies can become playable.

What Tingle does in relation to Link and Zelda is support, yes. But you can't ignore that he has his own games, full of their own enemies and objectives.
 

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You're kinda grasping at straws.

The farthest Little Mac has gotten was Assist Trophy- oh wait.
The farthest Villager has gotten was background character- oh wait.
villager never appeared at all in the game yeah i think as a actual trophy but not on the stage it was the townfolk and i understand for little mac he makes since of being character why he wasn't is beyond me im not sakurai
 
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villager never appeared at all in the game yeah i think as a actual trophy but no on the stage it was the townfolk and i understand for little mac he makes since of being character why he wasn't is beyond me im not sakurai
Villager did appear on Smashville. Both the male and female versions.
 

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You're kinda grasping at straws. Tingle was upgraded to Assist Trophy from Stage Element. That's an improvement.

The farthest Little Mac has gotten was Assist Trophy- oh wait.
The farthest Villager has gotten was background character- oh wait.
The farthest Pichu has gotten was as a Playable Character - oh wait. :urg:
 
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Do people really want to play as Tingle, or are they simply just saying he should be there because reasons?
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm simply trying to say that he could be playable.

By no means do I support Tingle as much as Mewtwo, Ridley, and Palutena, but saying he's only ever been a support character and arguing about canon in Smash Bros. is kinda ignorant IMO.
 
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The farthest i've gotten is...not even out of my bed. Seriously..people should enjoy their weekends and i'm all like sittin' in da bed baking white bread. While commenting on this thread, by the way...my grandma's dead. And so is my dad. That is pretty rad.

I should write poetry.
 

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The farthest Pichu has gotten was as a Playable Character - oh wait. :urg:
And I miss him to this day. At least one of his costumes made it over to Pikachu. And you do need a Pichu in order to legitimately learn Volt Tackle. I feel like his spirit is somewhat in the game. Also, his damage "gimmick" is made into a good thing with Lucario, more feeling like his spirit is kept in some way.

I am grasping at straws, of course. I know he's not in the game. Minus a Trophy, of course. But they didn't completely erase his influence, IMO.
 

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The farthest i've gotten is...not even out of my bed. Seriously..people should enjoy their weekends and i'm all like sittin' in da bed baking white bread. While commenting on this thread, by the way...my grandma's dead. And so is my dad. That is pretty rad.

I should write poetry.
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And I miss him to this day. At least one of his costumes made it over to Pikachu. And you do need a Pichu in order to legitimately learn Volt Tackle. I feel like his spirit is somewhat in the game. Also, his damage "gimmick" is made into a good thing with Lucario, more feeling like his spirit is kept in some way.

I am grasping at straws, of course. I know he's not in the game. Minus a Trophy, of course. But they didn't completely erase his influence, IMO.
lol who cares about pachirisu
 

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The farthest i've gotten is...not even out of my bed. Seriously..people should enjoy their weekends and i'm all like sittin' in da bed baking white bread. While commenting on this thread, by the way...my grandma's dead. And so is my dad. That is pretty rad.

I should write poetry.
Hello, handsome.
 

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Seriously guys...I want a playable Pichu in SSB4.
I'd be fine with that. Pichu probably made me who I am today by helping me get through the intense bullying I dealt with going through elementary and middle school.
 

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The farthest i've gotten is...not even out of my bed. Seriously..people should enjoy their weekends and i'm all like sittin' in da bed baking white bread. While commenting on this thread, by the way...my grandma's dead. And so is my dad. That is pretty rad.

I should write poetry.
Hello, handsome.
Geez. When you said you were getting into poetry, I thought you were going to be doing strokes with your pencil, not stroking your pencil.
 

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I'd be fine with that. Pichu probably made me who I am today by helping me get through the intense bullying I dealt with going through elementary and middle school.
idk maybe change its playstyle so won't be a bit similar then yeah he was so adorable


on off side note thank you sehnuscht for this awsome dream roster
oh make my dreaaams come trueee
 
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