Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[RamOne]

The correct answer is Joshua from TWEWY.

Next in line is Sora with a Heartless alt color.

I KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN OK!

Joshua would be great as well. But Neku is the big main protagonist.

 

[Knight Dude]

Didn't we get a sicker in Brawl from Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters, I believe Pit himself? That game was only released in Japan in 2012 (3DS VC), so seeing some content from StarTropics (like a trophy) doesn't seem too much of a stretch I guess. Yeah, I know Kid Icarus was already a series introduced in Smash, but they didn't have to include something from a game never released in Japan.

That could work. I don't think anyone here would really be against Mike being a character somewhere down the line, just that it's unlikely.

As for the Kid Icarus thing, at the very least, the first game was available in Japan. So the sequel probably got a free pass.

I just got the Lucas trophy... Now I have every cut vet that has a trophy.
Ice Climbers
Mewtwo
Pichu
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Pokemon Trainer
Wolf
Lucas
...

Poor Snake and Roy.

I really hope we get some cut veterans as DLC.

I'd like that too. But I'd have a slight preference to one or two more new characters. Though I mostly only care about Wolf and Squirtle since I actually used them. But I know a lot of people really liked Mewtwo, Ivysaur and Lucas.

For the Ice Climbers, well, unfortunately they are just going to have to sit this one out. If they can't work on one version, they aren't getting in.

 

[Buttcheeks mcgee]

Sakurai is far more biased towards the Japanese fanbase, just so you know.

Yet he included one Japan wanted character: Shulk

 

[TheGoldMan]

 

[FalKoopa]

Yet he included one Japan wanted character: Shulk

I said "towards" not "against". In other words, he pays (much) more attention to what the Japanese fans want.

 

[Deleted member]

Can we just not talk about BitF anymore?
I get sad when I remember that it's over

 

[mimgrim]

Joshua would be great as well. But Neku is the big main protagonist.

Joshua is best character ever though.

Neku wouldn't be the protagonist without Joshua. xP

 

[TheGoldMan]

VS.

VS.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

FEYRRR!

Edit: Whoa, easy there dude. Don't do too many embedded vids on the same page. Spoiler some of them or make them links.

 

[Frostwraith]

A very short analysis on the Smash 4 newcomers and possibly why they were chosen. By yours truly, no less.

- Animal Crossing series popularity. It's currently one of the biggest Nintendo series.
- Popular request worldwide. Was requested for Brawl.
- Purposely put in the game to surprise people, as Sakurai stated. THE oddball choice and only character to not have been requested and without significant popularity. Wii Fit was a major hit on the Wii, though.
- Very popular character from the Mario series since her debut in Super Mario Galaxy.
- Popular character among Western players.
- Token latest generation Pokémon. Chosen before the release of X/Y, but ended up becoming popular among Pokémon fans, so it was a lucky choice.
- Kid Icarus: Uprising was a major success and Palutena's popularity worldwide skyrocketed since then.
- Was an easy choice considering Bandai Namco's involvement. Also a major video game icon.
- Fire Emblem: Awakening was the most successful game of the series and was the most interesting character Sakurai found from the game. Both genders also ranked high in Japanese popularity polls.
- Originally planned as an alt for Marth, she is the most popular female Fire Emblem: Awakening character according to Japanese polls.
- Popular in Japan, where he was one of the most wanted characters for Smash. Xenoblade is also a notable niche title outside of Japan.
- Originally planned as an alt for Pit, he is popular among the Kid Icarus fans and one of the most popular Nintendo characters in Japan, according to polls.
- Token retro character. The dog has notability, especially among Western fans.
- Another quite popular Mario character. The Koopalings also have significant popularity among Mario fans, hence why they were likely made as his alts instead of regular color/texture swaps.

Sakurai is far more biased towards the Japanese fanbase, just so you know.

Any Japanese developer is, to be honest.

It's easier for them to conduct polls and whatnot in their own country than having to involve the worldwide affiliates.

 

[JamesDNaux]

I'd like that too. But I'd have a slight preference to one or two more new characters. Though I mostly only care about Wolf and Squirtle since I actually used them. But I know a lot of people really liked Mewtwo, Ivysaur and Lucas.

I don't care what some people say, Snake deserves to be back too. I want him to return the most.

The order I want them is:

1. Snake? Snake! SNAAAKE!
2. Ice Climbers
3. Wolf
4. Lucas
5. Mewtwo
6. Honorable mentions to Pokemon Trainer himself, not the Pokemon.

I don't care about the other ones, but they'd be great to have back too.

Of course, if newcomers come into the mix, Rayman is the one I need as DLC.

For the Ice Climbers, well, unfortunately they are just going to have to sit this one out. If they can't work on one version, they aren't getting in.

Not if they can make them work.

 

[Knight Dude]

Character I have finished are Mac, Megaman, Falcon, Puff, WFT, and Ness. I'm like one move away from Diddy. :L

Yeah, I should get back to nabbing as many moves as I can soon. Probably gonna use R.O.B alot in Smash Run and book it to as many chests as I can.

 

[mimgrim]

I'm probably the only person who prefer Brawl Fox voice. :L

 

[RamOne]

Can we just not talk about BitF anymore?
I get sad when I remember that it's over

Better over when it was still good than dragging it too far and having to end it because people stopped liking it.

 

[praline]

Me too but Lucas got in brawl so there is no reason to decline Mike.

Lucas and Mike Jones are incomparable. Lucas is from a japanese only game. Mike Jones is from an American only game.

Smash is made by a Japanese company. Of course they'll play favourites to Japanese games.

 

[D-idara]

I agree, especially if he would have Snake-like codecs. Such a shame the series are finished.
Not sure which third-party I want more, Layton or Neku from TWEWY.

Neku starred on one game, and after both the trilogies' endings, Layton's one of my favorite characters of all time, he has gone through so much and still came out on top, it takes a great man to do that. Also, since Dr, Kawashima's deconfirmed, we need a character that uses much more brains than brawn.

And I don't really believe the Layton series being over, the ending of the third game foreshadows another trilogy...

Lucas and Mike Jones are incomparable. Lucas is from a japanese only game. Mike Jones is from an American only game.

Smash is made by a Japanese company. Of course they'll play favourites to Japanese games.

You say that like it's not completely unfair.

A very short analysis on the Smash 4 newcomers and possibly why they were chosen. By yours truly, no less.

- Animal Crossing series popularity. It's currently one of the biggest Nintendo series.
- Popular request worldwide. Was requested for Brawl.
- Purposely put in the game to surprise people, as Sakurai stated. THE oddball choice and only character to not have been requested and without significant popularity. Wii Fit was a major hit on the Wii, though.
- Very popular character from the Mario series since her debut in Super Mario Galaxy.
- Popular character among Western players.
- Token latest generation Pokémon. Chosen before the release of X/Y, but ended up becoming popular among Pokémon fans, so it was a lucky choice.
- Kid Icarus: Uprising was a major success and Palutena's popularity worldwide skyrocketed since then.
- Was an easy choice considering Bandai Namco's involvement. Also a major video game icon.
- Fire Emblem: Awakening was the most successful game of the series and was the most interesting character Sakurai found from the game. Both genders also ranked high in Japanese popularity polls.
- Originally planned as an alt for Marth, she is the most popular female Fire Emblem: Awakening character according to Japanese polls.
- Popular in Japan, where he was one of the most wanted characters for Smash. Xenoblade is also a notable niche title outside of Japan.
- Originally planned as an alt for Pit, he is popular among the Kid Icarus fans and one of the most popular Nintendo characters in Japan, according to polls.
- Token retro character. The dog has notability, especially among Western fans.
- Another quite popular Mario character. The Koopalings also have significant popularity among Mario fans, hence why they were likely made as his alts instead of regular color/texture swaps.


Any Japanese developer is, to be honest.

It's easier for them to conduct polls and whatnot in their own country than having to involve the worldwide affiliates.

All of these are good reasons, not great, though, especially Dark Pit, I love Pikmin 3 and I'm OK with Alph being stuck as an alt, why couldn't the Japanese KI fanbase be happy with alternate costume Dark Pit? Also, are you sure the Pokemon fanbase 'happened' to like him...
...MAYBE IT HAD TO DO WITH GRENINJA HAVING THE BEST OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE ABILITY ON THE GAME!?
Seriously, he's a genetically-engineered fan-favorite. And I still stand by the fact that all the damn dog did was laugh, hell, he doesn't even have a move where he swings the Duck by the neck like Ike's Uair.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'm probably the only person who prefer Brawl Fox voice. :L

No you're not! :]

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I'm probably the only person who prefer Brawl Fox voice. :L

lolnope

I like Brawl Fox.

 

[Themandme]

Joshua is best character ever though.

Neku wouldn't be the protagonist without Joshua. xP

If Joshua gets in then then spoilers will be flying everywhere. And probably big spoilers for the people who have not played it

 

[Knight Dude]

I don't care what some people say, Snake deserves to be back too. I want him to return the most.

The order I want them is:

1. Snake? Snake! SNAAAKE!
2. Ice Climbers
3. Wolf
4. Lucas
5. Mewtwo
6. Honorable mentions to Pokemon Trainer himself, not the Pokemon.

I don't care about the other ones, but they'd be great to have back too.

Of course, if newcomers come into the mix, Rayman is the one I need as DLC.


Not if they can make them work.

I'd want Snake back too. But third parties are way harder to work with, for obvious reasons. For new characters, I'd still like to see Ridley or someone else from Metroid. Maybe someone from Donkey Kong. Though honestly, I'm overall satisfied with most of the new characters. Mega Man and Pac-Man in particular.

 

[Bedoop]

Neku starred on one game, and after both the trilogies' endings, Layton's one of my favorite characters of all time, he has gone through so much and still came out on top, it takes a great man to do that. Also, since Dr, Kawashima's deconfirmed, we need a character that uses much more brains than brawn.

And I don't really believe the Layton series being over, the ending of the third game foreshadows another trilogy...

You say that like it's not completely unfair.

@ D-idara Welcome back!
Just try not to get into any arguments, please. :<

 

[mimgrim]

If Joshua gets in then then spoilers will be flying everywhere. And probably big spoilers for the people who have not played it

TWEWY is an old game by now. Spoilers shouldn't matter. Heck. They spoiled KIU and FEA even which are more recent games. Spoilers don't matter lol.

 

[RamOne]

Neku starred on one game, and after both the trilogies' endings, Layton's one of my favorite characters of all time, he has gone through so much and still came out on top, it takes a great man to do that. Also, since Dr, Kawashima's deconfirmed, we need a character that uses much more brains than brawn.

And I don't really believe the Layton series being over, the ending of the third game foreshadows another trilogy...

You've to remind me again. It has been a while since I've last played the third game.

If Joshua gets in then then spoilers will be flying everywhere. And probably big spoilers for the people who have not played it

That game is filled with spoilers. You can't reveal information about Neku without spoiling things about him and like @ mimgrim said, they have spoiled Awakening and Uprising or during Brawl Mother 3 before.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

If Joshua gets in then then spoilers will be flying everywhere. And probably big spoilers for the people who have not played it

It's been years. "Spoilers" don't count anymore.

Everybody who cares about TWEWY knows that he's basically God. And if they didn't learn it there, they probably learned about it from Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance. Everyone else who doesn't know won't be interested enough to play the game anyways.

I've never even played it and I know.

 

[Themandme]

TWEWY is an old game by now. Spoilers shouldn't matter. Heck. They spoiled KIU and FEA even which are more recent games. Spoilers don't matter lol.

just saying its a hard to find game And rpg's normally have more important story. The only thing really spoiled from Fe:a is lucina

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Sorry but who are they!?

Kiba Inuzuka (furcoat wearing guy), Shino Aburame (shady creep) , and Ino Yamanaka (blonde beauty) from Naruto.

 

[Buttcheeks mcgee]

Lucas and Mike Jones are incomparable. Lucas is from a japanese only game. Mike Jones is from an American only game.

Smash is made by a Japanese company. Of course they'll play favourites to Japanese games.

Except Sakurai does'nt play favorites

 

[Deleted member]

I just learned of Super Smash Party as I am affectionately dubbing it.
And I'm glad to hear that event matches are probably back, they're probably one of my favorite parts of Melee and Brawl.

 

[Knight Dude]

VS.

VS.

Geez. I almost forgot how badass Melee Fox sounded. Brawl Fox sounds cool too, though not the best. He could use a little bit more energy in his voice. But Smash 4 Fox sounds...well...lame. Just listen to the way he says Landmaster.

I feel the opposite when it comes to Falco. I like Falco's voice in Smash 4 though. It still suits him. But I don't particularly like the Melee voice for him.

 

[Kikkipoptart12]

I'm probably the only person who prefer Brawl Fox voice. :L

No I like fox brawl voice Too.

 

[RamOne]

I just learned of Super Smash Party as I am affectionately dubbing it.
And I'm glad to hear that event matches are probably back, they're probably one of my favorite parts of Melee and Brawl.

I can see a Duck Hunt Duo/Falco event match happen in reference to Duck Hunt.

 

[Bedoop]

Except Sakurai doesn't play favorites

Tell that to Smash Run.

 

[JamesDNaux]

I'd want Snake back too. But third parties are way harder to work with, for obvious reasons. For new characters, I'd still like to see Ridley or someone else from Metroid. Maybe someone from Donkey Kong. Though honestly, I'm overall satisfied with most of the new characters. Mega Man and Pac-Man in particular.

Well Kojima did say "please use Snake," so it's not like there would be any trouble getting him.

There's sadly no way that Ridley would be DLC, as we know he's in the Wii U version. It's either surprise temporary Wii U exclusive newcomer or stage boss. I'd still love to see King K. Rool and Dixie, but Rayman is still top priority.

 

[Themandme]

Guys amazon just leaked smash newS

 

[D-idara]

Except Sakurai does'nt play favorites

Sure, he doesn't...
The franchise has as many characters as games.
50% of the Smash Run enemies are Kid Icarus.
Many super-huge franchises are stuck with past stages but Kirby and Kid Icarus get awesome new stages and tons of music.
Nearly every concept's based on a previous Kirby or Kid Icarus game.

Well Kojima did say "please use Snake," so it's not like there would be any trouble getting him.
There's sadly no way that Ridley would be DLC, as we know he's in the Wii U version. It's either surprise temporary Wii U exclusive newcomer or stage boss. I'd still love to see King K. Rool and Dixie, but Rayman is still top priority.

No way Ridley would be DLC? Why's that? Also, remember the whole 'Toon Link deconfirmed' thing and Alfonzo, especially considering that Other M Ridley is a clone of the actual Ridley.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

I'm probably the only person who prefer Brawl Fox voice. :L

No.

 

[Buttcheeks mcgee]

Out of all things now is suddenly want Mike and Red as playable (Red,NO POKEMON) so i suddenly want characters that will never get in

 

[mimgrim]

Nomura needs to FF and KH on a hold and make a TWEWY2. Hell at this point I would settle for a revamp of just TWEWY with improved graphics, not that the game needs them, and improved controls, which the game does need, for the 3DS.

After that he can go back to FF while keeping KH3 on hold until I get an Xbox One.

:L

 

[Bedoop]

Guys amazon just leaked smash news

2Slow

 

[mimgrim]

Guys amazon just leaked smash newS