Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[Saikyoshi]

Ugh... Why am I good with characters I hate but bad with characters I like?

I had to stoop to playing as , my hatred of whom rivals that for Lucina, in order to stand a chance against time-out stallers. And I'm actually good with her.

My win record with , who I adore, is less impressive.

 

[Deleted member]

But what if they cut Pikachu?

Tonight on FOX: Things that will never happen. With Glenn Beck. Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.

More like ''Tonight on FOX: Over 9000 matches will happen in Final Destination and its variants, with no items. No reason is given on why items aren't going to be available at this time, but we'll keep you covered with news surrounding the events. We'll also broadcast the matches live, so please stay tuned.''

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Speaking of Dark Pit, I thought he had a mirrored sprite since he's was born from a mirror or something - I don't remember Uprising's plot since I only watched a LP on it and focused more on the action and witty banter. The reason I thought so is Dark Pit is supposed to be the dark side of Pit - oh, how surprising - and he's his reflection and therefore, I thought he'd be left-handed for pretty much everything while Pit was right-handed. Nope, they're the same.

With archery, right-handed (and right eye dominant) people, usually, hold their bow with their left and draw with their right, vice versa for left-handed people. It's also something that came up in my mind the moment I saw Link firing his bow in the Wii U trailer for Zelda Wii U - he's holding it right-handed and even squinting his left eye suggesting he's left eye dominant, but was probably taught by a right-handed archer who couldn't figure out how to mirror his movements for Link to learn. At the same time, Link's sword is the on the right side of his horse and that suggests he's left-handed with the sword. It's going to be weird and costly to switch between a bow and sword like that since they're both being held with the same hand. Link was never right-handed with the bow except for on the Wii version of Twilight Princess, but that was because the game was mirrored. Even in Skyward Sword, Link held his bow with his right and drew with his left.

If anything, he seems to be more of a parallel of Pit, design-wise anyway

 

[Ffamran]

If anything, he seems to be more of a parallel of Pit, design-wise anyway

Nah, that's Marth and Lucina. They're parallels from different mothers and fathers.

If Dark Pit was mirrored, at least he'd be a bit more different. I still wished he used the other weapons from Uprising or the weapons he used in Uprising and only the bow was shared with Pit when translated to SSB and that Lucina had a different move set or her battle stance from Awakening.

 

[Knight Dude]

Just beat Dr. Mario twice in a couple ten stock matches. 2nd win, I managed to still keep 5 lives.

Not sure who I should go up against next. Maybe Little Mac or Rosalina.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Just beat Dr. Mario twice in a couple ten stock matches. 2nd win, I managed to still keep 5 lives.

Not sure who I should go up against next. Maybe Little Mac or Rosalina.

Level 9 Mac

Nah, that's Marth and Lucina. They're parallels from different mothers and fathers.

If Dark Pit was mirrored, at least he'd be a bit more different. I still wished he used the other weapons from Uprising or the weapons he used in Uprising and only the bow was shared with Pit when translated to SSB and that Lucina had a different move set or her battle stance from Awakening.

Eh, yeah I wish Lucina at least had ONE different move compared to marth. I also wish that Dark Pit had a completely original moveset :/

 

[Soul.]

Just beat Dr. Mario twice in a couple ten stock matches. 2nd win, I managed to still keep 5 lives.

Not sure who I should go up against next. Maybe Little Mac or Rosalina.

For Glory?

 

[ahannoush4]

So my fiancé was playing (and wearing my shirt) and I was able to snap this awesome photo of her showing me she won! A new smash meme is upon us!

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

So my fiancé was playing (and wearing my shirt) and I was able to snap this awesome photo of her showing me she won! A new smash meme is upon us!

Wow XD
EDIT: Also, not to be rude or anything, but am i the only one who sees girls spam Down B with Kirby the first time they play Smash?... Yes? So its just me? Mkay

 

[Bedoop]

Back from doing this, let's see wha-

My gripes with the roster aren't so much about what I like/dislike, but what it lacks.
Like:
: He was long overdue and Sakurai had neglected his obvious potential and the fact that AC deserved a rep.
: She represents the Galaxy games, probably some of the finest games that have ever shown themselves to us mortals, plus she's pretty cute and her design rocks, not to mention the whole Space Goddess thing she had going on.
: The only part of the roster where I can say Sakurai did something 100% percent right, Awakening deserved representation as it's the best Fire Emblem game to date (If you're not a purist).
: He's Megaman for god's sake, probably the only heavy-hitter newcomer, that should speak volumes about the supposed star-power of this roster, when a third-party's the biggest face the game has to offer.

Dislike:
At first I didn't dislike anyone on the roster, but then...
- The lack of requested newcomers like Ridley, K. Rool, Isaac, Dixie Kong, Mewtwo...etc. If the fanbase wanted them, they're pretty much guaranteed to NOT be on this game.
: He's a disgrace to the roster, a literal recolor with a few tweaks who doesn't even have his own name...he turns my stomach whenever I see him and he's everlasting proof of Sakurai's unending bias for the Kid Icarus franchise, and not even for a good Kid Icarus villain like Hades, we get a recolor...speaking of which...
: Another disgrace that shouldn't have ever happened, of all the characters he decides to show his ugly head to taint this game's roster rather than staying where he belongs, as a goddamn alternate costume with no real relevance, he has no real relevance to the Mario Universe, the Smash Universe or the Nintendo Universe, he's there to be there.
: He's simply stupid, and Wii Fit Trainer fullfills his role much better, thinking how much development time he must have taken that could've been spent on Ridley turns my stomach as well, hell, they didn't even get his name right!
Let's see, what else can I dislike about this roster? Oh yeah...


And sorry...can't even stand the sight of Dr. Mario and Dark Pit without long paragraphs asserting how much I hate them.

Thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to talk about this in an organized manner.
Although I am a fan of Duck Hunt and Doc, I see where you're coming from.
I too am one of the people who supported Ridley (as well as Mewtwo and Issac from the sidelines), and I'm quite confused as to why Ridley and Issac have no trophy in Smash 3DS, and I am also sad that Lucas, Squirtle, Ivysaur and Ice Climbers are cut (Wolf I never really played and Snake, I could care less), but let's try and keep the complaining to a minimum.
After all, we do have the Tower of Smash Leak still up and running.
Only time will tell.

 

[Ffamran]

Level 9 Mac


Eh, yeah I wish Lucina at least had ONE different move compared to marth. I also wish that Dark Pit had a completely original moveset :/

She technically does: Counter which is shared with , , , , , , , , and . It's got it's own animation which is her concept art stance... Technically too since his Reflector has I-frames and can act as a pseudo-Counter.

Also, her Shield Breaker kind of looks different. Kind of.

 

[Knuckles the Knuckles]

So my fiancé was playing (and wearing my shirt) and I was able to snap this awesome photo of her showing me she won! A new smash meme is upon us!

I'd tilt that (Peach that is, with Ganondorf)

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

She technically does: Counter which is shared with , , , , , , , , and . It's got it's own animation which is her concept art stance... Technically too since his Reflector has I-frames and can act as a pseudo-Counter.

Also, her Shield Breaker kind of looks different. Kind of.

I meant as in a totally different move for Lucina. Lucina can't get Counter in awakening since its a male only move, so I thought she would have gotten a different Down B

 

[D-idara]

Back from doing this, let's see wha-

Thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to talk about this in an organized manner.
Although I am a fan of Duck Hunt and Doc, I see where you're coming from.
I too am one of the people who supported Ridley (as well as Mewtwo and Issac from the sidelines), and I'm quite confused as to why Ridley and Issac have no trophy in Smash 3DS, and I am also sad that Lucas, Squirtle, Ivysaur and Ice Climbers are cut (Wolf I never really played and Snake, I could care less), but let's try and keep the complaining to a minimum.
After all, we do have the Tower of Smash Leak still up and running.
Only time will tell.

Actually, that's not fair...I don't hate Duck Hunt Dog as much as I said, him and Greninja are simply the only Newcomers I wouldn't mind replacing with fan favorites, I am particularily angry at DHD, though, since he looks like an extremely development-heavy character, with his controllable projectiles and summoning playstyle. I'll probably use him more than Dark Pit and Dr. Mario, at least.

And I really hope that stage's Castle Dedede and not Great Cave Offensive. #BelieveInTowerOfSmash. I'm mostly pissed with Snake and Ice Climbers because I think removing entire series from Smash will always be a huge no, and with Snake, we could've gotten this music:

I would seriously pay for DLC if it included Snake and that song.

 

[Knight Dude]

So I just beat Rosalina now. For some reason, this match I got 264 coins out of it. Which is weird, I only had one life left over. But I have left over with Dr. Mario and I only get 123 coins.

You'd think I'd get more cash out of match I objectively did better at.

 

[Knuckles the Knuckles]

Anyone who preffers lolrandom Wii Fit Trainer over the GENIUS that is Duck Hunt Duo is mad I tell you, MAD!

 

[Bedoop]

Actually, that's not fair...I don't hate Duck Hunt Dog as much as I said, him and Greninja are simply the only Newcomers I wouldn't mind replacing with fan favorites, I am particularily angry at DHD, though, since he looks like an extremely development-heavy character, with his controllable projectiles and summoning playstyle. I'll probably use him more than Dark Pit and Dr. Mario, at least.

And I really hope that stage's Castle Dedede and not Great Cave Offensive. #BelieveInTowerOfSmash. I'm mostly pissed with Snake and Ice Climbers because I think removing entire series from Smash will always be a huge no, and with Snake, we could've gotten this music:

I would seriously pay for DLC if it included Snake and that song.

I would LOVE a Great Cave Offensive Stage, but I do want to see what they do with the cast, specifically Mewtwo. I never really played him in Melee and I don't own Project M, but I loved Lucario in Brawl and I see Lucario as somewhat of an "Expansion" of what Mewtwo did--No, that does not mean I find either to be clones of the other, I treat them both equally--So I'm really curious to see what Sakurai can do.

Also, that is a nifty Signature Picture you have there.

 

[D-idara]

Anyone who preffers lolrandom Wii Fit Trainer over the GENIUS that is Duck Hunt Duo is mad I tell you, MAD!

Takamaru would've been miles better than DHD as a Retro rep, and he was actually requested.

I would LOVE a Great Cave Offensive Stage, but I do want to see what they do with the cast, specifically Mewtwo. I never really played him in Melee and I don't own Project M, but I loved Lucario in Brawl and I see Lucario as somewhat of an "Expansion" of what Mewtwo did--No, that does not mean I find either to be clones of the other, I treat them both equally--So I'm really curious to see what Sakurai can do.

Also, that is a nifty Signature Picture you have there.

I would LOVE a Great Cave Offensive stage if it didn't deconfirm Tower of Smash, and I'm kinda the same withn Mewtwo, I don't play him that much and selfishly, I'd have a playable Deoxys over Mewtwo any day...but that won't happen and I can recognize how Mewtwo's really important to the Pokemon franchise, especially since he even had a sort of 'revival' with XY's Mega Evolutions.

And thanks, Hades would be the perfect DLC Newcomer for Kid Icarus, with all the glory of his personality.

 

[Kenith]

Anyone who preffers lolrandom Wii Fit Trainer over the GENIUS that is Duck Hunt Duo is mad I tell you, MAD!

I agree that I am MAD.

 

[Bedoop]

Anyone who preffers lolrandom Wii Fit Trainer over the GENIUS that is Duck Hunt Duo is mad I tell you, MAD!

Almost as mad as a Mad Dog.
Mad Dog Bowser, that is. :3

 

[Ffamran]

I meant as in a totally different move for Lucina. Lucina can't get Counter in awakening since its a male only move, so I thought she would have gotten a different Down B

Counter is a safe move to give anyone which is probably why many characters have it. That and it's a skill fighters of all disciplines learn especially boxers who's schtick is to parry, slip, weave, and counter their way to victory.

showed that she can do that spinning slash move in Awakening so, a fair or dair move. Aether, unfortunately exists with and it might be an issue since Sol recovers HP and reliably too compared to relying on projectiles like or Nosferatu's limited uses / have to deal with, but that part of Aether was ignored with . As a Final Smash that recovers HP and KO's enemies, it might work. Luna would have been a neat move for her Neutral or Side Special and basically be a different Shield Breaker or the custom move for that ignores shields. There's Asura which could have been a Side Special where she rapidly attacks while rushing forward or have that be a Final Smash like 's Night Slash. Basically, she, , and even had potential to not be clones or at the very least, be more like semi-clones than clones.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Anyone who preffers lolrandom Wii Fit Trainer over the GENIUS that is Duck Hunt Duo is mad I tell you, MAD!

Nah, the Miss Fit's inclusion in Smash has caused me to learn how to love her in ways I never knew I was capable of doing before.

Spoiler

Yes. ¦D

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Counter is a safe move to give anyone which is probably why many characters have it. That and it's a skill fighters of all disciplines learn especially boxers who's schtick is to parry, slip, weave, and counter their way to victory.

showed that she can do that spinning slash move in Awakening so, a fair or dair move. Aether, unfortunately exists with and it might be an issue since Sol recovers HP and reliably too compared to relying on projectiles like or Nosferatu's limited uses / have to deal with, but that part of Aether was ignored with . As a Final Smash that recovers HP and KO's enemies, it might work. Luna would have been a neat move for her Neutral or Side Special and basically be a different Shield Breaker or the custom move for that ignores shields. There's Asura which could have been a Side Special where she rapidly attacks while rushing forward or have that be a Final Smash like 's Night Slash. Basically, she, , and even had potential to not be clones or at the very least, be more like semi-clones than clones.

Yeah but Dr, Dark and Lucina are still clones.... Saukrai why?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Duck Hunt is a lot better a newcomer than Wii Fit Trainer

 

[Knuckles the Knuckles]

Duck Hunt is a lot better a newcomer than Wii Fit Trainer

 

[Bedoop]

I don't know if this would make @ D-idara laugh a bit or not
But IMO
is a clone of
and not
Which is ironic as crap
Since Doctor MARIO is a clone of LUIGI and not MARIO.

Also, Venus of the Desert Bloom has a Grey Name now. Did someone get a Prrrrrrrromotion?

 

[Knight Dude]

For Glory?

No. Just practice. I was going up against Level 9 CPUs. I'm gonna get in some training before I go online. I also want to unlock as many characters as soon as possible. I'm only missing Ganon, MGW, DHD, ROB and Bowser Jr.

Duck Hunt is a lot better a newcomer than Wii Fit Trainer

This is actually scientific fact. I mean, we don't even need to bring in the numbers or anything.

Double Post. Sorry. Can a mod delete this or something?

 

[Ffamran]

Yeah but Dr, Dark and Lucina are still clones.... Saukrai why?

Well, Dr. Mario is technically not a clone since he's got the Dr. Tornado and no Petpo-Bismol-flavored FLUDD. Dark Pit at least has the courtesy of being like Roy to Marth and having an altered Side Smash. Lucina? Nope, just no sweet spots so she gets all the knockback and she's "shorter". Dark Pit has his unused weaponry in Uprising, Lucina showed she has a different style in Awakening along with moves Marth never used in SSB or Fire Emblem, and the Dr. could have used tetris/Dr. Mario themed moves like I don't know, have his Down Special be a giant pill slamming down or Dr. Mario throwing a bottle of pills or acid or Robitussin for his Side Special?

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Well, Dr. Mario is technically not a clone since he's got the Dr. Tornado and no Petpo-Bismol-flavored FLUDD. Dark Pit at least has the courtesy of being like Roy to Marth and having an altered Side Smash. Lucina? Nope, just no sweet spots so she gets all the knockback and she's "shorter". Dark Pit has his unused weaponry in Uprising, Lucina showed she has a different style in Awakening along with moves Marth never used in SSB or Fire Emblem, and the Dr. could have used tetris/Dr. Mario themed moves like I don't know, have his Down Special be a giant pill slamming down or Dr. Mario throwing a bottle of pills or acid or Robitussin for his Side Special?

Robitussin XD thats a good one. But really though, it does sound like a good idea. Also maybe he could throw the Tetris blocks and each different type could have a different effect with each i.e red ones = fire, blue = ice etc. Or maybe the effects could correspond to the different shape types, who knows?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That feeling when you do the best in Smash Run as Megaman, then it goes into Reflect Smash where every projectile reflects....****ing hell.

 

[Knight Dude]

Level 9 Mac

Just fought him. Kind of tough. But I did win. I'm gonna try again, since even though I won, SD'd himself in a really stupid way.

My theory was right though. Horizontal K.O.s are the best choice when we're talking Little Mac.

 

[TJ-Works]

That feeling when you do the best in Smash Run as Megaman, then it goes into Reflect Smash where every projectile reflects....****ing hell.

How about a Running contest for Smash Run where 1 character has over 600 speed, whilst me and the other 2 CPUs had 100-200. >_>

I enjoy demolishing all the enemies and collecting goodies in Smash Run, but the final part is terribly unfair.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

How about a Running contest for Smash Run where 1 character has over 600 speed, whilst me and the other 2 CPUs had 100-200. >_>

I enjoy demolishing all the enemies and collecting goodies in Smash Run, but the final part is terribly unfair.

That's Kirby Airride at times, super fun in the city part, but then you get too the last part and it can screw you over really badly. Still I love the mode since the screwing you over is pretty rare.

That one with Megaman was really the most Bull**** I've had happen to me though.

 

[Deleted member]

You think that people would've learned by now that using Macs side-B near the edge = certain death.

 

[TJ-Works]

You think that people would've learned by now that using Macs die-B near the edge = certain death.

That's literally the experience I had an hour ago.

A guy kept trying to catch me out with his Side-B next to the edge. All you do is say "Nope." and jump over their head.
It was pretty funny seeing it the first time, though. xD

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I don't know if I ever thought it was possible during Brawl's era, but I managed to beat 100 Man Smash with ALL 51 CHARACTERS. @GoldenYuiitusin may or may not have its reward, but it sure was worth it.

 

[Deleted member]

What the Hell do I care, really?

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

Little Mac is definitely one of the rudest characters ever. His attacks are so cheeky.

 

[FlappyFalco]

People are still *****ing about clones?! @Frostwraith would be pleased!

I'm starting to like Dark Pit. His control over his arrows is much more subtle, just enough to get over Toon Link's shield and Luma. The Electroshock Arm is very satisfying to use, and you Power of Flight out of it.

As for Dr. Mario, as was mentioned above, he's as much a clone of Luigi as he is Mario. Unlike Lucina, his custom moves are completely different from Mario's. Plus, those taunts and victory animations are just too good!

 

[RamOne]

I am really glad 15 Minutes Smash is gone. That mode was even worse than Cruel.