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Knuckles the Knuckles

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If were geting DLC with NEW characters, there better be a new Zelda and Metroid rep in them. Honestly dont even care who, both series just need more love and have a huge selection of great characters to use in Smash (Metroid maybe less so, but there's perfectly viable cast to choose from if you look hard enough)
 

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You know, I'm now even more upset that Wolf is gone because I realized I can't do a rivals-themed 4-way FFA since the only other characters that fit the archetype are Meta Knight, Wario and Dark Pit.
 
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You know, I'm now even more upset that Wolf is gone because I realized can't do a rivals-themed 4-way FFA since the only other characters that fit the archetype are Meta Knight, Wario and Dark Pit.
Donkey Kong is one for Mario too, if it helps. :D
 

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Donkey Kong is one for Mario too, if it helps. :D
Yeah, kind of, but he's also a protagonist on his own with his own heroic roles.

Meta Knight, Wario, Wolf and Dark Pit all fit the rival archetype in the sense they're an antithesis of the hero in terms of moral qualities.

Meta Knight is honorable and loyal to his own beliefs, where Kirby is a happy-go-lucky goofball.
Wario is greedy contrasting with Mario's righteousness.
Wolf is a mercenary who resorts to dirty methods to achieve his goals, while Fox is a much more honorable character.
Dark Pit just wants to do whatever he wants and isn't afraid to call out the gods on their crap, while Pit is blindly loyal to Palutena and naive.
 

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Im hoping Fox has some of Wolf's B moves in customisation mode. Combine that with his last colour and you have a bootleg Wolf.

If not, then theres always Falco I guess :p
 

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Yeah, kind of, but he's also a protagonist on his own with his own heroic roles.

Meta Knight, Wario, Wolf and Dark Pit all fit the rival archetype in the sense they're an antithesis of the hero in terms of moral qualities.

Meta Knight is honorable and loyal to his own beliefs, where Kirby is a happy-go-lucky goofball.
Wario is greedy contrasting with Mario's righteousness.
Wolf is a mercenary who resorts to dirty methods to achieve his goals, while Fox is a much more honorable character.
Dark Pit just wants to do whatever he wants and isn't afraid to call out the gods on their crap, while Pit is blindly loyal to Palutena and naive.
Yeah, it is kind of sad. Fox's dark costume is kind of close to Wolf if it happens.

Hmm... How about Duck Hunt? Consider Mii Fighter "you" for a moment. The DHD is every player's rival at some point. It's a stretch, but it works.
 

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Fox has at least Wolf's Side-B as a custom, no idea about the others.
If you pick those and Fox's gray palette, you can try to pretend it's Wolf, but sadly, I don't think you're gonna have fun with this thing.
 

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"I know this is supposed to be Tiki, but I'll be damned if I'm not seeing Terra Branford here."

You are right, damn since she was my main in Dissida i have to main her
 

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Yeah, it is kind of sad. Fox's dark costume is kind of close to Wolf if it happens.

Hmm... How about Duck Hunt? Consider Mii Fighter "you" for a moment. The DHD is every player's rival at some point. It's a stretch, but it works.
A stretch indeed, because I meant the rival archetype from a storytelling standpoint not subject to open interpretation.

Another thing about that archetype is: for all the flaws they may have and acts of villainy they may commit, they will still help out the hero at times, even if not for the same reasons as him.

Another character that fits this archetype is the Black Knight from the Fire Emblem series.

Well, we did get a new villain with Bowser Jr... or actually 8 villains, considering the Koopalings.
 
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A stretch indeed, because I meant the rival archetype from a storytelling standpoint not subject to open interpretation.

Another thing for all the flaws they may have and acts of villainy they may commit, they will still help out the hero at times, even if not for the same reasons as him.

Another character that fits this archetype is the Black Knight from the Fire Emblem series.

Well, we did get a new villain with Bowser Jr... or actually 8 villains, considering the Koopalings.
Unfortunately they aren't rivals to anyone. But themselves, maybe. :p

But makes sense.
 

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Confession time: As much as I like the idea of custom movesets, I would trade them for more characters.

Yes, even if it meant the Great King wouldn't use the sword. :cry:
 
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Confession time: As much as I like the idea of custom movesets, I would trade custom them for more characters.

Yes, even if it meant the Great King wouldn't use the sword. :cry:
Hey, he didn't in OOT. In fact, it makes sense he didn't use one at all. He never truly had one.(albeit, the teased one was from a tech demo and used his OOT model. Note that never became a real thing. We got an entirely different Ganondorf with two swords.)

However, I do think the idea they're why some were cut is probably true. I really miss the Brawl vets. I miss IC's too, but I got a Melee replacement at least.
 

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Confession time: As much as I like the idea of custom movesets, I would trade them for more characters.

Yes, even if it meant the Great King wouldn't use the sword. :cry:
Great minds think alike. I too would prefer characters over custom movesets. I think atleast 53% of this thread agrees with us.
 

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Confession time: As much as I like the idea of custom movesets, I would trade them for more characters.

Yes, even if it meant the Great King wouldn't use the sword. :cry:
I don't even care much for custom movesets so I'm even more for this.
 

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Confession time: As much as I like the idea of custom movesets, I would trade them for more characters.

Yes, even if it meant the Great King wouldn't use the sword. :cry:
Yeah... same here. I probably won't even use custom specials much, aside from maybe making some of the challenges easier.
 

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Confession time: As much as I like the idea of custom movesets, I would trade them for more characters.

Yes, even if it meant the Great King wouldn't use the sword. :cry:
I can agree with that sentiment. But the custom moves are cool. So I hope they stay.
 

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The game has been out in Japan for like 3 days and now they're finding "infinites"?....
 

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The custom moves probably took so much less time then characters do I don't know how many more characters you would have gotten by scrapping the custom moves.
 
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Someone on Reddit has the game and a Japanese 3DS and says it only works against Robin.
So this is literally the same thing that ZSS did in brawl against R.O.B? lol rip robin/zss matchup
 

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The game has been out in Japan for like 3 days and now they're finding "infinites"?....
Robin got rekt...

The custom moves probably took so much less time then characters do I don't know how many more characters you would have gotten by scrapping the custom moves.
Well, you have a point.

Someone on Reddit has the game and a Japanese 3DS and says it only works against Robin.
Damn, better be careful with Zero Suit Samus when playing as Robin.
 

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Confession time: As much as I like the idea of custom movesets, I would trade them for more characters.

Yes, even if it meant the Great King wouldn't use the sword. :cry:
I... Wouldn't. I'm actually quite liking the custom moves I've seen so far, and I plan to toy around with them a lot when the game comes out over here.
 

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The game has been out in Japan for like 3 days and now they're finding "infinites"?....
You're surprised? With the advent of social media and the internet, breaking **** down in video games becomes a simple matter. At any rate...

It's confirmed to work only on Robin. M2K reaffirmed this on Twitter.

Also, where the hell were you when they found Mega Man's hitstun-canceling Up-B? Of course there are wonky bugs and whatnot. We live in a golden age of patching stupid **** outta games.

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Zero Suit Samus confirmed hard counter against Robin
GG Robin mains
 

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So this is literally the same thing that ZSS did in brawl against R.O.B? lol rip robin/zss matchup
Time just loves to repeat itself. But I wonder if it could be done to anyone else...

Edit: Or not. Guess it's only on Robin.
 
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