RWB
Smash Ace
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I'm just going to outright attack you and say you're ********. ike w/ max defense and ragnell tie with oscar's max defense with a knight ward at 29. they're both earth affinity and get/give the same support stats, and both can hit at 1-2 spaces with a spear/ragnell. ike has an extra point of skill and speed, and oscar has 3 extra points of resistance, those are the only stat difference. ike gets 25 capacity while oscar only gets 20. skill wise, aether is the same as sol in that it heals you, but ike has a 27% chance to hit with it and oscar only has a 26% chance, and since ragnell is stronger than every single lance in the game, he can do more damage, and therefore heal more as well. That doesn't even account for the free 2nd hit of aether which cuts the opponent's defense in half before the hit. Aether does activate at 2 range btw, still 27%.
ike, even with only mediocre level-ups can beat the game by himself in hard mode when properly equipped (ragnell, knight ring, aether, miracle, couple elixirs maybe).
ike doesn't need 27 thousand gold every 2 maps to be able to do any real damage either.
arggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg my face hurts.
You're ********. Ike doesn't match Oscar until he gets ragnell, not even CLOSE. Oscar beats him for evade due to being able to support other earths. He can gain as much as 50 avoid from them. With Aether, he might be better, but it doesn't change the fact that Oscar beats him on all stages, except those two and the few he is left out of.
"ike w/ max defense and ragnell tie with oscar's max defense with a knight ward at 29"
Ike average is barely 22. that pushes him up too 27 with aether, respectable. Oscar averages 23. Ike has better def growth, and still doesn't beat Oscar on max level without ragnell.
"they're both earth affinity and get/give the same support stats"
Except Oscar has better support choices than Ike has. He has Tanith and Ike, for full avoid of 50, for example.
"and both can hit at 1-2 spaces with a spear/ragnell"
Yeah, lets ignore the fact that Ike can only attack from a distance for two chapters(not counting magic swords, which suck anyway), while Oscar does it for the entire game.
"ike has an extra point of skill and speed, and oscar has 3 extra points of resistance, those are the only stat difference"
At max level I presume. Ike has more of an advantage statwise there than you think. However, Ike is stuck with the worst weapon(barring light magic) in the game. The sword. Since the enemies in general have lances, Ike will lose hit, avoid and atk, and take more damage. Meanwhile, Oscar has a choice between Lances and Axes, and will have extra hit, avoid and atk, and will take less damage. This means their combat ability is pretty much even.
Oh, and you forgot the movement stat. 2 more movement is ownage, espescially coupled with re-move.
"ike gets 25 capacity while oscar only gets 20."
There is still no skill combo that makes him beat Oscar, since all effective skill combos is 10+10 in capacity. That lack of five is what gives Oscar his re-move ability(move after attack), which is better than any skill Ike can gain.
"skill wise, aether is the same as sol in that it heals you, but ike has a 27% chance to hit with it and oscar only has a 26% chance"
Yeah, one percent is gonna make a lot of difference. Irrelevant. Both skills suck due to their low activation rates.
"and since ragnell is stronger than every single lance in the game, he can do more damage"
Still, will lose big against Forged Silver Axe. Not that it matters.
"he can do more damage"
Situational.
"and therefore heal more as well."
Situational.
"Aether does activate at 2 range btw, still 27%."
Yeah, gives you a crit instead of the actual skill.
"ike doesn't need 27 thousand gold every 2 maps to be able to do any real damage either."
What? Ike has the Ragnell for two chapters, and loses in offensive ability the rest of the game.
"ike, even with only mediocre level-ups can beat the game by himself in hard mode when properly equipped (ragnell, knight ring, aether, miracle, couple elixirs maybe."
This goes for Oscar as well, and certainly even for Titania(She will have the easiest time). The only foes they cannot beat is the "Goddess Armored" Meaning Ashnard. And that's why you have a dragon and a Laguz King.
Ike might beat Oscar when he gets Ragnell, but Oscar crushes him before that. There is a reason Ike is number 8 on the tier list while Oscar is number 4.
Oh, and by the way, Titania is number 1.
Learn a little about the game before insulting me, *******.