Skies of Arcadia Mafia - Game Over! Indy (AM) Wins!

[Aggressive Mediation]

Alright this is ********.

ARE YOU ALL OUT OF YOUR ****ING MINDS?

Soup gets a RB on us and there's no NK. Immediately, not just retardfreshSoup but marshy, J, and KevMo all hop onto this madness. There's no consideration of the HIGHLY MORE LIKELY scenario of a doc protect or a bulletproof shot, nope, we got roleblocked, no kill, suddenly that's a bingo.

THIS IS ******** AND I EXPECT SO MUCH MORE OUT OF THIS ROSTER.

marshy, this is not epicmafia, stop playing like it is.
J, I expect so much better out of you.
Soup, stop being an excitable little git. I know what you're thinking right now regarding this and I'm telling you right now that's not the ****ing case.

Oh wait I'm voteblocked.

AND I GOT ROLEBLOCKED.

AND THIS ISN'T SHADY HOW?

I mean, no one's even considering the fact that we got voteblocked at all? Nobody? I mean, why voteblock us? There's no ****ing sense in it. That's such a huge ability to use for an anti-town faction and yet they voteblocked someone who had barely been here and had absolutely no influence in the game. Why? What did they gain out of us over someone with way more presence like Soup, J, marshy, or KevMo?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup, stop being an excitable little git. I know what you're thinking right now regarding this and I'm telling you right now that's not the ****ing case.

Actually, I was thinking that I was looking for your stances nor did I say to just quick-lynch you.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Why the huge overreaction? You think I was just gonna let a quicklynch happen without looking into it more? I admit I jumped the gun but I didn't see any negatives to claiming, seeing how we're in an all PR setup. What the other half of your hydra said is true, there are a billion possibilites, I just don't understand why you decided to lose your mind over this. What do you think about the people who are wagoning you anyway?

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

I haven't read. Give me time. Yes, stances we have are stale but it's not like I'm sitting on them by choice. You know damn well how much time goes into starting an AGame, or at least you should, given that you've put yours off to continue writing it.

Also I'm pissed off because every game nowadays seems to have people being pants-on-head ******** over the dumbest things.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Marshy's actually the only one I was worried about pushing too hard, but that's holding onto our J town read. KevMo's going to say he was either all for letting us talk or all for lynching us, whichever works out for him, so who knows. I have an idea about KevMo though.

Call me, Alex.

 

[Rockin]

im having trouble rationalizing why soup would do this as a scum roleblocker plus i havent been bothered by his play. if hes scum hes just going to...out his role to get an inactive lynched? wtf? what do other people think of this? strikes me as likelier to be town

I think it'd be stupid for any scum to do this. I feel that soup is just a townie that just got anxious over this.

can you tell me why the **** am is town? like literally. everyone said this d1 but i dont see it. is it the gifs? the disappearance act? is it the terrible case? someone please enlighten me to this crazy bull****

I saw him as town because majority of his reads matched with mine. I also liked his inputs on D1. I felt he's cool in my book.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

What the other half of your hydra said is true, there are a billion possibilites, I just don't understand why you decided to lose your mind over this. What do you think about the people who are wagoning you anyway?

I thought you were scum because of the way you were pulling town reads out of the air and pushing Orbo who, and I said this in Tactics as well, will ALWAYS read guilty if you hard pressure him.

I thought J was town from where he entered the game. He, Legolas, and I had a triangle of three reads where we each thought two were scum and each had one of the three as town. Not sure if that holds up given his vote and what little I've read of the way he's been playing with Marshy.

I hate reading Marshy. He makes himself ****ing unreadable and I hate him.

I hesitantly hang my hat on KevinTown dependent on how he plays this scenario out.

Gheb is ****ing ********. I would love to see investigated. I like his Gorf read. I do not like the way he opened this game (with a vote on LAK for DUMB reasons). I would love to have him copped.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

And I am moving for the summer, starting now.

 

[#HBC | J]

AM, bonus queston, is Soup still scum in your eyes?

 

[Marshmellowman]

rockin which reads of ams matched with yours? offhand they disliked soup (someone you have as town) and liked lego (someone you had as scum). im not following you at all

 

[Marshmellowman]

Gheb is ****ing ********. I would love to see investigated. I like his Gorf read. I do not like the way he opened this game (with a vote on LAK for DUMB reasons). I would love to have him copped.

i agree thats ghebs lak vote is among the grimier plays this game. do you actually have a bead on orbo or have you been writing him off as badtown?

 

[#HBC | J]

There is so much scum in this game.

I wanna just lynch Gorf/Lego/Gheb/KevinM/AM*eeeh* and just move on with life haha.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Talked with John a bit on recent events.

AM being roleblocked is in no way a guilty like he said, but it is still incriminating. This is a small game so the possibility of him sending out the kill is still possible since I don't buy the WIFOM of who sends the kill since I think that is game depended with a roaster and how things play out.

But it's still not in itself something we will lynch over, we want them to post more to the stances and questions being asked but he is in our consideration for a lynch if we deem it necessary.

As it stands, it WIFOM to lynch it on the roleblock itself and though rereading I don't agree with Soup being scum and some reads, but I can see where they were coming from in some sense of a word. Soup did throw a quick town label on us, quick but not bad in itself I'd say, and his push of Orbo, which is a disagreement which I see merit to removing him but not a main concern over others.

His disappearing act is something I didn't like, but considering outside info I know, I understand why it happened. So I can't take it as full lurking.

~

AM bounce some ideas off me.

Tell me more about your Kevin read more, I think he should be null at the best instead of town.

Go into Gheb more, what did he do yesterday?

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

@ lak

do you REALLY think aggressive mediation is still a good guy? he made a garbageass case and disappeared. that is literally all he has done in this game along with posting amusing gifs. do you REALLY think soup would take this approach as scum? if hes a scum roleblocker what in the **** is he accomplishing by entering d2 like this? does this change your opinion of his slot at all?

Soup is town at this point.

AM, we're not sure need to poke at him more for info. Read changed based on this reveal a bit and their activity but still we want to get more info. We might be down for letting them live longer and take Gorf/Gheb first.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Opps, big hydra goof on last post lol.

speed of the wagon has NOTHING to do with the alignment of the wagonee. mario party 2 had july (as scum) get to -1 within hours. her play was just grimy so town was anxious to get her out of there. that shouldnt change ANYONES opinion of am

im having trouble rationalizing why soup would do this as a scum roleblocker plus i havent been bothered by his play. if hes scum hes just going to...out his role to get an inactive lynched? wtf? what do other people think of this? strikes me as likelier to be town

i dunno gorf. back in math blasters you made cases and were generally proactive. here you just come off as really lazy in comparison and i dont get it. nowhere near as much "oomph" to ya. can you briefly explain what you mean by lak lacking direction and why that is scummy on his part? not asking for a longass case or anything just something to gimme an idea

Eh, it depends on context.

Here some people piled on really fast without commenting on much else an that concerns me. It makes me cautious of his lynch because of how it happened here.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Marshy, does anyone actually believe Soup is scum? He's probably my strongest town read, I just don't believe that last Night's actions should call for a QL on AM.

RR, why do you want me dead so badly? More importantly, why do you feel the need to bring up your displeasure for me not being shot when I already had posted this day phase and there was no indication that I was going to be inactive?

You past history with posting and what you posted on D1 wasn't enough to make me want you around.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Rockin, tthoughts on Gorf/Gheb/JTB.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So why am I a cop / lynch target all of a sudden again? Because one of the absolutely scummiest slots calls me '********'? Because J has some minor issue with me that I never seen him going a bit more into detail - neither yesterDay nor toDay? Because my Lak vote is supposedly 'grimy', which it isn't in the slightest?

i agree thats ghebs lak vote is among the grimier plays this game.

No, no it isn't. Lynching or voting Lak is *never* a bad thing unless it's like lylo and he's confirmed town or something. I don't care if you think it's "among the grimier plays", if nothing better can be found I'm going to vote him again. It also has nothing to do with it supposedly being easier for scumbags to go after weak players because I'm not 'going' after Lak at all - I simply want him dead before the town is unable to carry his weight any more. I don't see what's grimy about that, I'm doing you a really big favor here actually.

I'm not pushing him right now and I don't think he's any worse than a null read but I'd *never* say no to his death, simple as that. Idgaf if you think that's grimy, it really isn't.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Oh wait I'm voteblocked.

AND I GOT ROLEBLOCKED.

AND THIS ISN'T SHADY HOW?

What? Roleblocking and Voteblocking you makes perfect sense from a townie point of view right now.

I mean, no one's even considering the fact that we got voteblocked at all? Nobody? I mean, why voteblock us? There's no ****ing sense in it. That's such a huge ability to use for an anti-town faction and yet they voteblocked someone who had barely been here and had absolutely no influence in the game. Why? What did they gain out of us over someone with way more presence like Soup, J, marshy, or KevMo?

Voteblocker is almost always a town role. Show me the game where it was used as scum-role? The only time that happened was in Bioware, where it was recruited anyway. All the other voteblockers had been pro-town because blocking somebody else's vote is usually a pro-town action [duh].
And even then the whole WIFOM-aspect of scumbags voteblocking one of their scummates still exists. I did that in Bioware and it would've worked had it not been for EE going in hardbody. Even if it was a scumbag who voteblocked you it doesn't make your play any better.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Nevermind - Gorf's the play.

He's the only one who doesn't have a legitimate counter-argument to accusations and I don't think anybody has a better read on him than null.

Unvote Vote Gorf

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Man how's that question even scummy simple yes/no that ain't gotta do with jack shiz yo.

Asking him whether he is the roleblocker *and* the voteblocker at the same time isn't kinda suspicious? Are you serious? It has a lot to do with 'jack shiz yo'. Like, what reason would a townie have to wanna know this? Any pro-town reason to ask such a question? I don't see any and based on your answer I doubt you'll be able to tell me something either.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Man someone's looking antsy

Besides... Who aside from J has an argument against me? People say I haven't been doing shiz... But then you have people like JTB or Orbo. Sure you can say that you expect more from me but the point still stands that IT'S NOT SCUMMY.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Asking him whether he is the roleblocker *and* the voteblocker at the same time isn't kinda suspicious? Are you serious? It has a lot to do with 'jack shiz yo'. Like, what reason would a townie have to wanna know this? Any pro-town reason to ask such a question? I don't see any and based on your answer I doubt you'll be able to tell me something either.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Whoops.

The response:

JTB actually has a point regarding the AggroMed thing, idk whether we should go totally off of the fact that Soup roleblocked em and if he claims the voteblock as well, that leaves room for a counterclaim, and if there is none it most def adds justification to his play. Plus, with the influx of PR's this game who knows what the fuhh could've happened last night... which is why this type of game is tough to deal with. Scum very well COULD have hit a doc protect, and what about the arbitrary indy that happens to be put in every damn game on this site, I don't expect Raz to be any different. We're being, like, almost barbaric with this lynching off a whim thing. We're being, like, medieval thinking we found a witch because AggroMed's nose looks funny. Has anyone realized that this isn't necessarily the best course of action? I'm down to lynched *****es, but I'd rather lynch scummy *****es than go off of NA's, and tbh AggroMed ain't scummy.

Buh bam.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

So why am I a cop / lynch target all of a sudden again? Because one of the absolutely scummiest slots calls me '********'? Because J has some minor issue with me that I never seen him going a bit more into detail - neither yesterDay nor toDay? Because my Lak vote is supposedly 'grimy', which it isn't in the slightest?

Funny, for someone who claims removing us is always pro town and we are the scummiest player in the game, he really hasn't done much in inquiring if this is a good move, nor if it is to him he hasn't pursued it at all outside of blanket baseless statements.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Funny, for someone who claims removing us is always pro town and we are the scummiest player in the game, [...]

Except, I've never said as much. You are not a scummy player - you are null to me.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gorf, that response has nothing to do with what I've asked you *smh*

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Except for the whole "claiming voteblocking can add justification to his claim" part but whatevz.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So a null read is so important you must lynch it off meta and enforce a policy lynch?

 

[Marshmellowman]

hey gheb

is anyone town in this game?

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

So a null read is so important you must lynch it off meta and enforce a policy lynch?

TenQuotes.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Except for the whole "claiming voteblocking can add justification to his claim" part but whatevz.

Since when do you need a justification to roleblock a suspicious playerslot? And why of all things would voteblocking be part of it? I mean, you specifically asked for it so there has to be more to it than just wanting a justification ... for an action that was perfectly justified to begin with.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So a null read is so important you must lynch it off meta and enforce a policy lynch?

When was the last time I talked about lynching you again? Yeah, shut the hell up about it already. The last time I brought it up was yesterDay unless somebody asked me about it in particular toDay. If you didn't realize it yet, I currently have no interest in lynching you as there are plenty of plays and you are not one of them. I kinda dropped the whole 'Lynch Ryu on principle'-thing now because I'd only go for that if nothing better can be found [which I mentioned like 3248230498239843 times]. I've also never made cases about you being scummy or anything. You're making a bigger deal out of it than needed because right now it's not only irrelevant to talk about but also harmful because it keeps us backpedaled in early Day 1 shenanigans again.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

hey gheb

is anyone town in this game?

Yes but I won't point them out unless there's a good reason for it. You can kind of do the math anyway via principle of exclusion.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

If your town, your a grade A moron Gheb.

@mod: If anyone needs a prod can you prod them?

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Orbo when you get a chance, tell me where town should go and why.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Except for the fact that "justification" is not necessarily meant for the fact of him doing it, rather, for the clarification of it actually being done? Besides, why is this, like, the bane of all plays, I'd love to know how it's pro scum.

 

[Raziek]

I'll do prods next time I take a League break.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Voteblocker is almost always a town role.

Yes, a role that hinders the town's main vehicle of removing scum is a completely beneficial to town.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Ruy, why are you so stuck on the fact that Gheb suggested a policy lynch for you? I'm pretty sure Legolas did the exact same thing at the beginning of the game (if he didn't, he probably was going to suggest it had you fully disregarded what he said) and yet you're stuck on Gheb. What's the difference between these two slots?