ChikoLad
Purple Boi
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I don't want to start an discussion about other characters here, but some of these points are just objectively wrong:King K. Rool - One of Nintendo's most important villains and one of the most recognizable ones. DK is a under represented franchise that needs more content and K Rool will glady fit that bill. K Rool is also literally the top most voted for newcomer (BK don't stand a chance).
Isaac - Golden Sun is one of Nintendo's more successful RPGs (right behind Pokemon and Fire Emblem) and Isaac has been requested for quite some time by a lot of people.
Yes, I do believe our Captain deserves to be in there but I think I can settle with him not being in Smash 4. Now Smash 5, he would be my only wanted Mario newcomer and then I'd say the Mario series is wholly represented (I'm meh on Paper Mario). He'd be a huge newcomer and probably one of the most wanted behind Krystal. I honestly don't see Captain Toad getting in Smash 4 but for Smash 5, I think he's a lock.
-K.Rool cannot be called one of Nintendo's most important villains. For one, he wasn't created by Nintendo to begin with. He was created by Rare, who are no longer owned by Nintendo. Secondly, he has been all but forgotten for the last few years outside of his Smash bandwagoners. He hasn't been used in games, and he hasn't been a character people have talked about all over the web in a general sense (like how Rosalina was - yeah, she didn't have a HUGE following for Smash specifically, but she was obviously incredibly popular within the Nintendo fanbase in general, and people just wanted to see her in more stuff). Furthermore, he isn't "top voted", because as I stated previously, these samples we have for the ballot, like NeoGAF and what not, are extremely, extremely small. There is a reason why all of the obscure characters are top voted on these sample lists - it's because the only places that would vote for them en masse ARE those small forum communities. You can't objectively say he's top voted when when don't have results that encompass every single voter.
-Whether or not DK is under-represented is up to the dev team, not us. The franchise is represented well enough. 2 characters, 4 stages between the two versions (1 of which has a pretty ground breaking gimmick for Smash), some Smash Run enemies, and plenty of trophies and music between the two versions. It's not exactly lacking.
-Golden Sun isn't an awfully successful franchise. In fact, each game sold significantly worse than the last (Dark Dawn didn't even break a million sales, not even close), by about a 500,000 unit decline each game. No game broke 2 million either. By Nintendo standards, that's pretty bad sales, and obviously the reason the series was dropped was because it wasn't sustainable. It's pretty much at the bottom of the pack in terms of Nintendo RPGs (and they don't have many anyway).
Not saying you can't vote for these characters or that I don't want them or anything like that, but don't put them on a higher pedestal than they are actually on as if they have special rights above all other characters, because they really are far from being in that kind of position.