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Shrine Maiden of Paradise ~ Reimu Hakurei (Touhou Project)
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I wish I noticed this sooner, but the Smash games actually sort of have grazing in them. If a move is close to hitting you but barely misses, you can see a little spark appear. These are called Glancing Blows. I think this would be a neat thing to make a mechanic out of if Reimu were added. It would be very faithful to the purpose of grazing in actual Touhou games: rewarding players for taking risks.
Unfortunately, I have no clue what this reward would be in Smash. Obviously they can't give points like in the original games. Possibly a slight increase in power for special moves or something each time an attack grazes you? Secondly, Glancing Blows are SUPER rare in Smash, only occurring when less than 0.1 units of a hitbox connect. An easy solution would just be to make it so that Reimu specifically has a wider area around her in which glancing blows will occur. Not sure if this would be too gimmicky, though (it does sound somewhat plausible since the DLC characters thus far have been fairly gimmicky anyways).
Sorry, I didn't intend for this to be so long. Just spitballing an idea I though of after learning about Smash's "grazing system."
Unfortunately, I have no clue what this reward would be in Smash. Obviously they can't give points like in the original games. Possibly a slight increase in power for special moves or something each time an attack grazes you? Secondly, Glancing Blows are SUPER rare in Smash, only occurring when less than 0.1 units of a hitbox connect. An easy solution would just be to make it so that Reimu specifically has a wider area around her in which glancing blows will occur. Not sure if this would be too gimmicky, though (it does sound somewhat plausible since the DLC characters thus far have been fairly gimmicky anyways).
Sorry, I didn't intend for this to be so long. Just spitballing an idea I though of after learning about Smash's "grazing system."
I feel like she'd work best as a glass cannon of sorts.As in,she would have a lot of killing power but also be ridiculously easy to take out.After all,the touhou games are all about dodging **** so making her a character that has to be played somewhat defensively seems like it'd be a pretty good way of translating that into smash mechanics.
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I don't think this needs a special mechanic attached to it. However it would be cool if she would get a special effect/sound when it happens to her as a little reference. Kinda like Ryu's shield.
So you're saying Reimu is essentially
? :v)
But I agree, I think this is the best way to represent her. Another idea I had was making her hitbox slightly smaller than her model. Not as small as in the games off course but just small enough to make a difference.
Also speaking of movesets: One thing she absolutely needs is her bouncy Yin Yang orb from HRtP. When thinking about Reimu in Smash this is always the first thing that comes to my mind
So you're saying Reimu is essentially
? :v)But I agree, I think this is the best way to represent her. Another idea I had was making her hitbox slightly smaller than her model. Not as small as in the games off course but just small enough to make a difference.
Also speaking of movesets: One thing she absolutely needs is her bouncy Yin Yang orb from HRtP. When thinking about Reimu in Smash this is always the first thing that comes to my mind
So it's very interesting that mostly popular/exclusive Japanese franchises like Ganbare Goemon and Panel de Pon got Mii costumes in the form of Goemon and Lip in Ultimate so far. It's also interesting how we got Shovel Knight as a Assist Trophy and Sans as a Mii costume. With both mostly Japanese exclusive or Indie franchises getting such big content in the game, it wouldn't surprise me if we got a character or two in the DLC lineup that cater to those audiences.
Now you could say Hero was the big character to mostly please the Japanese, but who says he has to be the only one?
You guys get the interesting pattern about what I said above? Mostly Japanese exclusive and Indie? Reimu is both of those. So with her being such a big and important Indie figure and her being from a EXTREMELY popular franchise in Japan, things might be looking a lot better for the shrine maiden's chances to join the battle than most of you guys realize.
Now you could say Hero was the big character to mostly please the Japanese, but who says he has to be the only one?
You guys get the interesting pattern about what I said above? Mostly Japanese exclusive and Indie? Reimu is both of those. So with her being such a big and important Indie figure and her being from a EXTREMELY popular franchise in Japan, things might be looking a lot better for the shrine maiden's chances to join the battle than most of you guys realize.
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I think part of the problem is figuring out which moves are most fitting along with making room for the spell cards she most known for using. Actually when i think about it, the most recent fighting games uses controls for specials similar to smash. This is her move list from AoCF, https://aocf.koumakan.jp/Reimu_Hakurei
This is why i am very confident that Reimu will be playable in ultimate as the last character for this set of DLC, even more so for the 2nd set of characters. Hoping we can get Marisa as an echo fighter.
This is why i am very confident that Reimu will be playable in ultimate as the last character for this set of DLC, even more so for the 2nd set of characters. Hoping we can get Marisa as an echo fighter.
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As announced at this years Tokyo Game Show:
Like with previous entries of Taito's Rakugaki Kingdom (Graffiti Kingdom) series, there will be yet another collaboration with Touhou in having Reimu Hakurei appearing in the game in some form. (From what I gathered, It will have ZUN as a secret boss that has her as one of his units)
And it also seems like we will could be having other Touhou elements that you can add to your drawings/characters?
Keep in mind that so far, there doesnt seem to be a confirmed western english release for this
and that this entry of the series seems to be mobile only.
Like with previous entries of Taito's Rakugaki Kingdom (Graffiti Kingdom) series, there will be yet another collaboration with Touhou in having Reimu Hakurei appearing in the game in some form. (From what I gathered, It will have ZUN as a secret boss that has her as one of his units)
【速報】
— ラクガキ キングダム公式 (@rakukin_pr) September 13, 2019
ハクレイノミコはZUNさんが隠しダンジョンのボスとして勝手に入れた……🤣⁉️⁉️⁉️#ラクキン #ラクキンTGS #ラクサポ #TGS2019 pic.twitter.com/lPgXvJXSnr
And it also seems like we will could be having other Touhou elements that you can add to your drawings/characters?
✨朗報✨
— ラクガキ キングダム公式 (@rakukin_pr) September 13, 2019
東方Projectのキャラはラクガキ🆗✨
ZUNさんから許可をいただきました👏
ラクガキして‼️育てて‼️
バトルで活躍させちゃいましょう✨https://t.co/tS9XkdeB1N
皆さんが描く東方ラクガキ楽しみです🤣お試しのフーディスカーレット❣️#ラクキンTGS #ラクキン #ラクサポ#TGS2019 pic.twitter.com/FvqvCRyBEM
Keep in mind that so far, there doesnt seem to be a confirmed western english release for this
and that this entry of the series seems to be mobile only.
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You got an actual source of that?
Also, i know this is floating around on other threads but didnt see this here.
Iwata was a close friend of Sakurai's and its touching to see him as the inspiration to make this game as amazing as it could be.
Last, here is is a new smash bros style touhou music!
Also, i know this is floating around on other threads but didnt see this here.
Sakurai at Game Awards:
— PushDustIn (@PushDustIn) September 13, 2019
I'm sorry for bringing up this personal story at a time like this...but making Smash Bros on the Switch was the last mission the late Satoru Iwata gave to me....I've put my all into the game, and with more DLC I will continue to work hard. https://t.co/cH3SxcN05Y
Iwata was a close friend of Sakurai's and its touching to see him as the inspiration to make this game as amazing as it could be.
Last, here is is a new smash bros style touhou music!
I saw this playlist being shared on the Smash Subreddit! Honestly surprised by how positive and open minded people where about the thought of Reimu's inclusion over there. Just a few weeks ago people went "Ugh, anime cringe" or "Literally who?!" when just mentioning Touhou so this is a really pleasant change.
...also the song is Scarlet Chain by xi-on
...also the song is Scarlet Chain by xi-on
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She's pretty influential and has a lot more going for her that makes her more acceptable as a whole. A pleasant surprise to be sure.
I just remembered something that I should have posted with my introduction to this thread, so better late than never, eh?
I made my own interpretation of the Scarlet Devil Mansion. This was the last stage I made before going on a big break (and moving to a new home in the last month or so). I have some gameplay snippets below so you can get an idea of what it looks from different angles. I always record these to see if frames dip so I can fix those issues and make these stages playable.
I just remembered something that I should have posted with my introduction to this thread, so better late than never, eh?
I made my own interpretation of the Scarlet Devil Mansion. This was the last stage I made before going on a big break (and moving to a new home in the last month or so). I have some gameplay snippets below so you can get an idea of what it looks from different angles. I always record these to see if frames dip so I can fix those issues and make these stages playable.
Regular:
With items:
With items:
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I'm actually honestly surprised there's nothing Touhou related in Smash. Like when it comes to Indie representation, we've had Commander Video (trophy), Shovel Knight (AT) and Sans (costume, music), all of which are western, nothing from the Japanese side yet. You'd think there'd at least be a music track.
Marisa > Reimu though, fight me.
Marisa > Reimu though, fight me.
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I actually really love this concept, I'd argue it reflects the gameplay of Touhou quite well. Adjusting the glancing blow hitbox to be larger would help for sure, and this would be a really unique character gimmick that isn't over-encompassing or annoying to play against. I imagine each graze would increase her attack power by some percentage, the balance team can figure out the calculations. I can hear the ticks of each graze in my head now...
There's a couple of other elements that I'd personally incorporate into her moveset as well. First and foremost, I think it's fitting to include a lot of projectiles in her kit to simulate a bullet-hell. BUT, to avoid becoming one of those projectile camping characters, a majority of the projectiles she can fire off wouldn't actually put enemies into hitstun, rather acting like Fox's lasers where they do damage but don't halt their movement. Some of course would deal knockback and potentially set up into combos, maybe incorporating the yin yang balls in some form would work for that. Regardless, I think these types of projectiles would put the opponent in a situation where they need to determine whether they want to just take the damage to gain ground or make an attempt to block or avoid it.
Another idea I think would be fitting, and would actually work together with the grazing system, would be the ability to slow down your movement. I'm not entirely sure how to incorporate it, but maybe something similar to Peach's floating ability. However, instead of floating in place, you descend very slowly and your horizontal speed is slowed as well. This would allow you to more easily position yourself next to opponent's attacks without getting hit, and even trip opponents up (for example launching an opponent upward and then floating in the air, waiting to react to their commitment and letting go of the float to go in for an attack).
I know I voiced my support at one point some time ago, but since it's been a while I felt it reasonable to reinstate my support. I definitely think we have a good shot this time around.
There's a couple of other elements that I'd personally incorporate into her moveset as well. First and foremost, I think it's fitting to include a lot of projectiles in her kit to simulate a bullet-hell. BUT, to avoid becoming one of those projectile camping characters, a majority of the projectiles she can fire off wouldn't actually put enemies into hitstun, rather acting like Fox's lasers where they do damage but don't halt their movement. Some of course would deal knockback and potentially set up into combos, maybe incorporating the yin yang balls in some form would work for that. Regardless, I think these types of projectiles would put the opponent in a situation where they need to determine whether they want to just take the damage to gain ground or make an attempt to block or avoid it.
Another idea I think would be fitting, and would actually work together with the grazing system, would be the ability to slow down your movement. I'm not entirely sure how to incorporate it, but maybe something similar to Peach's floating ability. However, instead of floating in place, you descend very slowly and your horizontal speed is slowed as well. This would allow you to more easily position yourself next to opponent's attacks without getting hit, and even trip opponents up (for example launching an opponent upward and then floating in the air, waiting to react to their commitment and letting go of the float to go in for an attack).
I know I voiced my support at one point some time ago, but since it's been a while I felt it reasonable to reinstate my support. I definitely think we have a good shot this time around.
