Shrine Maiden of Paradise ~ Reimu Hakurei (Touhou Project)

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Who is Reimu Hakurei, what is Touhou Project and why should she be in Super Smash Bros. ?

To keep it short: Reimu Hakurei is the main character of the Touhou Project by Team Shanghai Alice (ZUN). Its series of Danmaku (Bullet Hell Shoot em Up) Games and Fighting Game Spin-Offs. The series currently spans 16 main games and 10 spin-off titles as well as several official music CDs, official light novels and manga as well as a magazine.
On top of that, the series is known for getting the freedom of having a huge amount of fan doujin works in the form of manga, fangames, fan music and others, to the point that the japanese Comic Market (Comiket) convention had to get its own "Touhou day".


The Touhou Project series takes place in Gensokyo, a land of Illusion/Fantasy that is sealed off the real world and hidden within the Great Hakurei Barrier. The only known gateway between Gensokyo and this world is the Hakurei Shrine, which stands in isolation along the border on distant mountains of the far east.

Reimu is the shrine maiden of the Hakurei Shrine and one of the main "incident resolvers" in Gensokyo. She and others characterize the time she spends at the shrine as largely boring and uneventful. While she is sometimes serious about her duties, she can't seem to get many worshippers at her shrine. It appears that youkai extermination is her only method of earning even a thin salary.

Why I think she should be in Super Smash Bros. might be comparable to why people want Indie representation in Smash.
(You can kind of compare western Indie and eastern Doujin as prettty simillar with maybe a few legal differences.)
You could say, that Touhou is one of the biggest Doujin series in Japan and Reimu could represent japanese gaming, the doujin scene as well as Danmaku/Shoot em Up (that has nothing to do with Sci-Fi Space Shooters themes.)


Up until recently, Touhou fangames have appeared not only for PS4, but also on the Nintendo Switch and some are even getting localizations for western releases. (With more confirmed to come)

What about the moveset? The moveset could easily be based on her fighting game appearances.
Utilizing her Gohei, Amulets, Yin-Yang Orbs and Danmaku Bullets.


Well, I guess that wraps things up for my OP of this thread for now.
This is my first Newcomer Speculation/Support Thread, I hope it turned out okay.


Let me know what you think. Yes I know, the chances are slim and I too have mixed feelings about the inclusion.
Also while still being huge as a doujin series, it is still considerably niche worldwide.


I'd be happy about friendly feedback to make this thread better and also hear your suggestions and ideas.

"Take it easy"

Useful Information:
Reimu Hakurei page on Touhouwiki
Touhou Project page on Touhouwiki
The Case for Reimu Hakurei by TrinitroMan on SourceGaming (article from 2016)
Reimu Hakurei - Rate That Character by Source Gaming

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While, admittedly, not very likely, if Sakurai does approach ZUN and get such an iconic fighter (Touhou is large enough in Japan), then it'll be total anarchy. The good kind. Count me in for unofficial support.

I suppose she'd have six jumps or a glide, quite a few projectiles, and Fantasy Heaven as a Final.

Don't worry about it being niche - look at Villager.
 
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Thank you all for the replies and support so far!

I suppose she'd have six jumps or a glide, quite a few projectiles, and Fantasy Heaven as a Final.
I can imagine a glide like the one that Peach has, but one that lets you move in all directions for a short time rather than just horizontally. Something like what you can see in the fangame: Koumajou Densetsu: Scarlet Symphony (Touhouvania)

Of course, projectiles are gonna be a huge focus for a character like that!
 
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Here are a few things for the Touhou (and Nintendo) Fan to look forward to right now:

  • Annual Hakurei Shrine Grand Festival (Reitaisai 15) May 6 in Japan (Interesting for new official and doujin work releases or announcements)
  • Touhou Genso Wanderer Reloaded (by AQUASTYLE) [localization by NIS America] coming July 17, 2018 (NA), July 20, 2018 (EU) to the Nintendo Switch
  • Touhou Sky Arena (by AREA ZERO) [getting an English release] for the Nintendo Switch. Release date to be announced.
Also I guess we can agree that the Stage would be the Hakurei Shrine?
I wonder what kind of references you could include in a Touhou Stage like that.. maybe with background characters like in the official Touhou "aerial fighting" games by Tasofro (Antimony of Common Flowers)
(I dont think you would be able to see other places of Gensokyo in the Background because of the direction the Shrine faces)

As far as music goes, any of Reimus Themes are a given. Maybe even add "The Grounds Color is Yellow" as well?
Cant really run out of music themes when it comes to Touhou.
 
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Sorry, don't want to sound negative there but while this is an interesting idea, I personally kind of don't like the idea of reducing Touhou to the one video just because its extremely popular (to the point it reached some kind of mainstream, mistaking it for anime etc.)

A Trailer for a Touhou newcomer might really need some kind of (short and quick) summary and explaination to who they really are. (But then again it wouldnt really be the first time that Smash Bros. introduces Characters to people who never heard of them before.)
 

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Touhou definitely has the history and popularity in Japan to deserve a rep. After all, we know how much of a Japan bias there is when it comes to characters. Source Gaming actually wrote a great article about Reimu's possible inclusion here:
https://sourcegaming.info/2016/01/18/the-case-for-reimu-hakurei/

The main thing I feel that is holding her back, aside from the ZUN factor, is the lack of a mainline Touhou game on a Nintendo console. Because of that, no one really associates Touhou with Nintendo. Then again, we had Snake and Cloud, so it's up in the air I guess.

But yeah, I want Reimu in Smash badly.
 
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Source Gaming recently uploaded a video on Reimu Hakurei as part of their "Rate that Character" series.
Zedi did an awesome job summarizing everything about her and Touhou Project, as well as giving all the important Pros and Cons about her possible inclusion and exclusion.

 

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Add me to the support list. I feel that Reimu's the type of "Impossible, Iconic Japanese Third Party Character" Sakurai is looking for after Cloud, Bayonetta and the Belmonts, but we'll see.

And to those who say a mainline Touhou game never appeared on a Nintendo console... Where was FF7 when Cloud got announced, huh?
 
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Here's an idea I'd like to share with you.
While faithful to the games, I'd imagine something like this would be really annoying to fight against. A friend of mine came up with the idea to have her hitbox normal like every other character, but her float (like Peach) would shrink her hitbox. This would reference the "focus" command in the games, and can be a unique defensive option for her.

By the way, here's a Reimu moveset that's been floating around for a while
Reimu moveset.png
 

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While faithful to the games, I'd imagine something like this would be really annoying to fight against. A friend of mine came up with the idea to have her hitbox normal like every other character, but her float (like Peach) would shrink her hitbox. This would reference the "focus" command in the games, and can be a unique defensive option for her.
Remember, there's also the factor of her receiving 2.5x more damage compared to other characters.

I forgot to include this in the image, but another thing that would set Reimu apart is that she can't shield or dodge. Instead, pressing and holding R will set her into focus mode. Hitbox would be visible, her movement speed would be slower, and some attacks would be altered.
 
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I would like to see an idea for Reimu moveset; it would hellish fun XD

The Day a main Touhou Game appears in Nintendo; will be the day people will go WILD wanting Reimu (like Solaire, but with more actual reasons to want it outside of memes)
 
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The Day a main Touhou Game appears in Nintendo; will be the day people will go WILD wanting Reimu (like Solaire, but with more actual reasons to want it outside of memes)
I mean, I can see that happening, but that's not how it works from a development standpoint.
 

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I mean, I can see that happening, but that's not how it works from a development standpoint.
Of course; that is also the reason why other choices that had this "now in Switch" annoucement are considered meme bandwagoning desires; even Crash Bandicoot.
 
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Never played the franchise; but she's a hugely popular indie character. I can't say I support persay but I wouldn't even be mad if she made it in due to sheer iconic status.
 

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Reimu is honestly one of the last characters that truly feel like has the potential to break the internet. And also, if they were to ever be an "indie rep" in Smash, I believe she would represent best what independent development really means. The amount of work ZUN has put into Touhou on his own summarizes the struggles of indie games quite well. Maybe not base game, but if she were the last ever addition in Smash Bros (if Ultimate is the last Smash game) then I believe it'd be an amazing way to close the roster for good.
 

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Reimu is honestly one of the last characters that truly feel like has the potential to break the internet. And also, if they were to ever be an "indie rep" in Smash, I believe she would represent best what independent development really means. The amount of work ZUN has put into Touhou on his own summarizes the struggles of indie games quite well. Maybe not base game, but if she were the last ever addition in Smash Bros (if Ultimate is the last Smash game) then I believe it'd be an amazing way to close the roster for good.
Indeed; Zun like fellow doujin creator Pixel; he did the game in his own (even the music, which it's probably his favorite thing developing each TH Game xD)
 

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Reimu would be a godly addition. The music alone is worth the inclusion.

Shed fit perfectly in a smash too considering there is already a touhou fighting game
 
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I was just wondering what Reimu’s reveal trailer would be like. I was thinking how funny it would be if she was just sweeping at Hakurei shrine, and noticed something in the donation box. She gets excited thinking it’s money but its a letter with the smash logo instead
 

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Love Touhou, she could have a really unique playstyle, and in my opiniooon would be the best character to represent indie gaming bc she's so massively iconic and has so much history and everything made by just one person, even if it's not super likely i'm still hopeful!! Count me in : )

ALSO, the MUSIC that'd be put in smash bc of her inclusion...thatd be everything LOL
 
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I have a stupid, but still fun idea. Can one of you draw Reimu (or another Touhou character if you wish) doing the "Burning Chibi Robo" pose?
 

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Count me in. Touhou's probably one of my favorite game franchises of all time, and it'd be really, really cool to have some sort of rep of it in Smash.

Not to mention the MUSIC it will bring. Imagine smashing to Nuclear Fusion, Deaf to all but the Song, Fate of Sixty Years, History of the Moon, Crazy Backup Dancers, etc.....
 
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Glad for all the positive responses and also the support. Thanks everyone.

Yes, for the music there is more than enough to choose from, pretty much like with Castlevania in Smash now, which got like 34 Songs at once.

Kind of wanted to use the opportunity to update a list of Touhou content you can have (and expect) on the Nintendo Switch:
Bold = Confirmed English release

Touhou Kobuto V: Burst Battle
Touhou Genso Wanderer Reloaded
Touhou Sky Arena
Touhou Azure Reflections
Marisa and Alice’s Trap Tower
Touhou Genso Kikou: Lost Alchemy
Yoiyami Dreamer
Gensokyo Defenders

Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum ‘n’ Fun! (has Touhou Songs)
 

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One thing I feel could greatly hinder both Reimu and other characters' chances is the fact that we might have seen every stage. Think, if Reimu got in, would we get a Touhou stage to go along with her? We already have exactly 100 stages (minus Battlefield/FD) confirmed. I'm uncertain if there are more stages to be confirmed beyond that. The only hint we have is the blank slots on the SSS, but that could be for DLC.
 

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One thing I feel could greatly hinder both Reimu and other characters' chances is the fact that we might have seen every stage. Think, if Reimu got in, would we get a Touhou stage to go along with her? We already have exactly 100 stages (minus Battlefield/FD) confirmed. I'm uncertain if there are more stages to be confirmed beyond that. The only hint we have is the blank slots on the SSS, but that could be for DLC.
It indeed kinda decreases her chances immensely if we aren't getting any more stages than those 103. I can't imagine a character from a series with such a vast and creative world being included without some sort of stage rep. I mean, we at least have to get something like the Hakurei Shrine or Youkai Mountain.

It also concerns me that the music shown off the direct could be all there is to it. Again, one of Touhou's biggest part is the music, so I can't think of a touhou character being included without any music rearrangement, especially when Castlevania is getting goddamn 34 tracks.
 
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I have no interest in the franchise or the character, but the legacy her series has had for indie development actually makes me want to see her in Smash. Maybe someday.
 

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Any Touhou representation in Smash would be a dream come true. Music especially if not a character.
 

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You've got my support. Reimu is one of my highest requests for Ultimate, and I think she would fit right in with the other characters on the roster from her significance to the Japanese game design and indie scenes through Touhou. She could bring a lot of interesting music and characters with her, and she already has good potential for movesets from the fighting games.
 
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