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Shiny's Mario Mafia - Game Over! Town + FireEmbleminer Victory!

#HBC | Kary

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Jeez, the lurker is spitting fire over here lol.
if you want to prove me wrong, tell me how you get from this:

My vote's still from RVS. I've been hesitant to change it up until this point until now, but that's because my vote counts for two (which means that it holds more weight than it typically would). With that said, I'm gonna go ahead and:

Vote: AmericanDJ

I've seen him viewing the thread an awful lot for not posting much (which makes me think he's a lurker), and kinda just defended himself and subsequently disappeared. He hasn't actually scumhunted or contributed anything to town this phase, he just appeared randomly, flipped out when he thought he was found out, and then kinda just left as soon as people unvoted. It looks super sketch and I think it'll be interesting looking at people's reactions to his rebuttal (either questioning further or just completely dropping pressure after the claim) after knowing his alignment. My backup would be Bard going today (although I very much enjoy his presence, I think Kary's case holds some merit) and want to see more from Kary and Maven before end of phase because they seem more quiet than I remember them being (although it's been a long time since I've played with Kary). Additionally, getting some inactives to talk would be nice :)
to this:
EBWOP: Not Voting: Natz~, Ura, Pokechu, AmericanDJ, #HBC | Nabe, Coricus, Yellowlord, Swamp Sensei, FireEmblemnier

Shoot, looking at that votecount I see three lurkers on Bard... I really don't like that wagon and DJ probably isn't gonna die today...

...

Vote: Maven89

If Bard turns out to be scum, at least we can get another day's worth of interactions out of him :upsidedown:
seems like an awful big flip-flop to me
 

Spak

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if you want to prove me wrong, tell me how you get from this:



to this:


seems like an awful big flip-flop to me
I analyzed the wagon and the fact that DJ votes were hitting a brick wall for no reason, then decided to try and make my vote possibly useful to town.
 

Spak

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I'm not asking why you changed from ADJ. I'm asking why you changed from Bardull to Maven.
I looked at Bard's wagon and really hated what I saw developing, so I swapped. It was essentially flipping between an inactive guy that provided no reasoning for inactivity and someone who looked a little bit suspicious, and I was fine with either dying (as I said in my list of people I was fine with dying). I'm setting up stuff for a party right now, so I'll answer any further questions later.
 

#HBC | Kary

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I looked at Bard's wagon and really hated what I saw developing, so I swapped. It was essentially flipping between an inactive guy that provided no reasoning for inactivity and someone who looked a little bit suspicious, and I was fine with either dying (as I said in my list of people I was fine with dying). I'm setting up stuff for a party right now, so I'll answer any further questions later.
Maven89 (2): Lampy, BarDulL
BarDulL (4): vaanrose, #HBC | Kary, Maven89, #HBC | Dark Horse


Okay but if you compare the waggons:
they both had one lurker (Lampy and vaanrose)
they're both voting for each other,
and then there's Dark Horse and I who are both posting a reasonable amount.

What I'm saying is, you literally said that my case had some merit, and then in your follow up post you decided I was a lurker?

It's fair enough if you're not sure between Maven / Bardull, but your reasoning for choosing between them just seems sketchy.
 

#HBC | Dark Horse

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It would be mad risky if he was mafia and not tracker to claim that, considering tracker's such a common role.

Mafia track is a possibility esp in role madness but so far nothing he's done screams scum to me.

I do agree it would be nice to hear more from him though
 

Coricus

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OK so I should really stop being so quiet and non-present as it's not helping anyone.

Can anyone summarize what the current status quo is?
 

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All that really happened yesterday if I were to sum it up:

RVS (Random voting system) from people land on Maven as people are just goofing off Day 1. Bard (Barney) comes up with an idea to throw votes on him to stir up discussion. When he starts actually getting votes, he turns it into "hey guys it'd be fun if you could vote between I or Maven". Kary and DH rip him to shreds and tear him a new one. While this is happening, people are switching their votes from either side. Natz~ voted, then DJ did, and when Natz~ unvoted DJ did as well. This caused people to point DJ out and Natz~ pressured him into spilling his role/flavor, Captain Toad & a tracker.

Bard barely manages to get lynched and I'm the final vote on him, I credit my vote to Kary and DH's strong cases but soup tells me that DH didn't really have a case, just an observation. This is why DH is wary of soup right now, as soup did nothing to explain why Kary had a case but DH did not despite both posting frequently on the topic of Barney.

Now, today, Kary is wary of Spak as he did a flip-flop from saying Bard is suspicious to just outright voting for Maven to be lynched.

That's what I'd say are the biggest things that have happened so far. There's tinier stuff along the way (Nabe pointed Stoopid out for a flip-flop as well, Maven is popping in and asking scenario questions such as "you have three bullets who do you shoot", etc.)
 

vaanrose

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UhhhhhHHHHHHHHH

Third party faction not quite dead yet???
My gut reaction to Ura's missing body was it being related to BardulL's ability, but on re-reading his role, it sounds more like there needs to be a dead body first before he could steal it. This is different. This is just a lack of a body altogether.
 

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Ok here's what I have to say.

I'm Cappy and my role was basically to defeat a great evil that threatened everyone. That evil was of course Bardull and his King Boo Vampire esque role. Given that you guys lynched him my win condition is fufilled, so no matter who wins scum or town, I win with them.
So why I am telling you all this, isn't it dangerous. Well not anymore at least. Basically at night I can't be targeted by actions due to my special ability, I'll get in to that shortly though. The only way I could die is either by being lynched or having Bard's sealing ability be used on me. With Bard gone, I can actually support town as a confirmed good guy, so long as you guys trust I'm telling the truth and don't lynch me.
If you look at Bardull's role, you may notice is says that someone is after him, I was that someone. Kinda funny that I was defending him on D1 though honestly.
Ok so my ability allows me to choose someone to capture similar to Mario Odyssey and use their active abilities, so basically to get to redirect whoever I controls target. The caveat to this is that when I can't be targeted due to 'possessing' someone else, and if that person is targeted by someone, like a mafia kill for example, it only effects them and not me. If you were to cop check me, I would come up as neither clean or suspicious due to my 3rd party status I think.
So I'm planning on just being an asset to town for the rest of the game. The reason why I announced this so soon, is that it would be better to allow scumhunting to proceed even better due to the fact, you would no longer have to worry about my intentions. I hope to be of help for you guys!
Feel free to leave any questions comments or concerns and I'll do my best to address them.
 

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Also, Spak already got blocked. It's highly unlikely there's two roleblockers running around in this town.
 

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The only way I could die is either by being lynched or having Bard's sealing ability be used on me. With Bard gone, I can actually support town as a confirmed good guy, so long as you guys trust I'm telling the truth and don't lynch me.
I don't understand how Bard's supposed to be able to kill you with an ability that has nothing to do with killing.
 

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I don't understand how Bard's supposed to be able to kill you with an ability that has nothing to do with killing.
Oh, because if I don't capture someone I die, but i can't be roleblocked either. So I assume it he was a hard counter for me.
 

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Rereading his role, It says he can revive dead players by sealing them, I thought he could just seal anyone away, so I'm guess I'm wrong. I guess that the only way I can die is by lynching if I somehow can't capture someone, but yet, I can't be targeted, so I'm confused by it.
 

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Oh, because if I don't capture someone I die, but i can't be roleblocked either. So I assume it he was a hard counter for me.
That really doesn't make sense at all. Bardul's role has no ability to interfere with your ability to capture someone. I also don't see how your role really counters his, if you're meant to defeat him specifically.
 

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That really doesn't make sense at all. Bardul's role has no ability to interfere with your ability to capture someone. I also don't see how your role really counters his, if you're meant to defeat him specifically.
Read the above statement, I was wrong.
 
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